remove " a lot of people" and u are right

4th on this list is crossfire btw the real debate in china is val vs cf

to the public its not available to the streaming sites themselves they know the concurrent numbers which is where tencent , riot get it from and valve may or may not have those numbers and yeah to be fair u need exact numbers for both games to compare but val is simply bigger in china the difference in heat number is really significant and the playerbase is also way more ( val is 2nd in pc cafes only to lol ) while cs is like 9th https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/1hdgdfx/valorant_has_ranked_second_in_chinese_internet/
So even if there arent absolute accurate numbers for cs available cuz valve does not release them , its not that hard to deduct from all the other stats and numbers than val is simply way bigger in china

nope they get real numbers from streaming companies itself . If they just straight up added the heat index to ccv its would be like 50 + million . val get way more heat index combined from all the chinese sites than cs does

Bro got zero esports knowledge and uses negative IQ logic . Esports in general is way bigger in china than any country its also mainstream . Pro players in china are like actual celebrities . LOL worlds last year had 50 million peak viewers ( 7 million non china 43 million from china ) . Almost every esport that is even decently popular in china has the largest share of its viewer base and player base from china .

cs has a big scene in china but its not even as big as crossfire forget val which is the 2nd most played game in pc cafes in china only league of legends is more popular

it does with china included cs def has highers viewership in west

hypoc flight was delayed or something he will on on tomorrow probably

vct tier 1 champs

i just got done watching it bro

i just searched ardiis and the first vod here is the finals one

it actually works go to site link ardiss stream his whole vod is on there

also the big plays at 11-9

he denied the physical abuse part but admitted to toxic relationship . his gf is also crazy so its easy to believe that physical abuse is probably a lie

you are right escharts includes every platform except chinese ones . the watch party thing is just wrong those streamers only get viewers when they watchparty . Also cs has same number of watchaparties now as valorant from ohnepixel to gaules to bunch of other russian streamer , u are just delusional but thats expected of hltv fan

i dont think loud is always better different countries have different cultures its more about showing up . The logic above is number of people not how loud they can scream . CS crowd is definitely the most hype though

i think the sheer amount of people throughout a tournament matters like i think cs crowds are the loudest in all of esports but LOL crowds are easily the biggest in numbers . They do crowd from every regional match to regional finals being in arena to playin of worlds , group stages and then playoffs in multiple different arenas. They also sold like 45000+ tickets in multiple worlds finals when they were held in football and olympic stadiums .

nope g2 vs heretics was louder than anything IEM chengdu and definitely better . one is a convention centre and other is mercedes benz arena

thats still true but it seems loud = better

first of all i did not compare it u did check the posts . 2nd china usually only has 1 iem tournament per year except this year . Also VCT cn finals crowd clears IEM chengdu

i never argued val crowd being better in general . CS crowd are probably best in esports specially in terms of being loud , chants and stuff . Shanghai crowd was better than chengdu crowd , the only bad thing was geng winning which led to them not cheering at all . also better does not just means higher decibels

it been 4 years and CS fans are as delusional as ever

loud = better

i dont know maybe my heaphones are broken but this definitely does not sound better than lockin finals , u are faded , listen maybe u are getting it wrong . i am not arguing that in general CS crowds are not louder and more active than any esports the world , cuz they are. My point was just about chengdu vs shanghai and the overrated rio major crowd . also i think the crowd mics suck in val , if u watch lockin from main stream compared to tariks stream its night and day

https://youtu.be/8kNX70i32aQ?t=164 u mean this all i see is empty seats

thats paris major not rio check the above comments. The comments are only about china and brazil

lockin finals even though in smaller arena are pretty much better than every rio game except furia vs navi . yeah it became a library as soon as fnatic started winning but thats expected from br crowd .

cuz of course they are gonna root for their team . There is a reason the topic after rio major was the crowd at the finals . Its just a brazil crowd thing , they only care about their teams . finals of every major regardless of teams is sold out except the rio one

china val was crowd bigger but worse because geng was winning , they hate geng . dont start with the rio major crowd lol the finals was empty nobody cared for it

i dont think people realize that cs majors dont do any audience untill final 4 days

cuz most cs events are in EU while a lot of val events are in countries like japan korea china where people are more respectful and not like wild animals

iem chendgu arena had 12k seats . masters shanghai had 17k but yeah it was great considering no chinese teams made it to either arenas

yeah but salaries in league are like next level . League has almost become like a sport where prize pool of a tournament dont matter its the salaries including the ingame shit that better as thats guaranteed . Also dota crowdfunds prize pool for TIs . I think its safe to say if LOL did that they would reach 324 million in like 2 worlds events

u cant check it if u compare heat to CCV but you can compare heat to heat

i constantly check viewership of cs and val esports events on chinese platforms its not even close between val and cs, and the gap is widening. Also league is more than 10 times bigger than val . The only thing about cs in china is skin community thats it and most of them are ignorant silvers who dont know shit about esports

it does feel like it but it isnt like league is the biggest esport in world without china, with china its bigger than all other esports on this list combined

i do think val clears cs2 now if we include china

meaning he didnt pull out in time

my goat something needs a better gf dawg

https://x.com/DRX_Global/status/1816877829432250418/quotes drx statement

but in this tweet she claims to be 19 which is older than flashback so either she is lying here or in her post

https://x.com/csqix66/status/1796130833910075567?s=46 i found this on reddit so is the alleged victim younger or older than flash back

https://x.com/csqix66/status/1796130833910075567?s=46 i found this on reddit so is the alleged victim older than flashback or younger than him ? cuz flashback is 18

my bad

i don't know who u are replaying to . If u replied to me i have not idea what u mean by "how is this what you come away with? . Also flexing 5 stars on VLR is crazy

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brother its not about that its about non consensual ejaculation which is rape . Flashback is 7 months older than the victim