unironically geng players choking because of the pressure

the korean hating community isn't relevant to this conversation

do val fans know what choking means?

davai most underrated for me, him and f0rsaken are the lifeblood of prx imo

sen, geng isn't even a team with a lot of fans or anything so the haters can still shit on prx and drx fans

because they lose some blowout maps and win some really close ones. Look at their loud game at champs for example, win a 13-10 and an ot map and lose a 13-2 on split. Same with grand finals losing 13-5 on bind, shit like that tends to lower ratings a lot

map pool diff alone should mean geng have it in the bag but the players can always choke, it's a lot of pressure for them since they have a lot to prove for their region as well

just have f0rsaken raze and have something play gekko op on every map like boostio

nah boostio just had a stinker in upper finals, also mindfreak life game on pearl

funny you mention lev because they, along with every team which picked up eg players, got way less time in the offseason because of the contract jail situation

not a rookie

none of those are objective facts but I agree that this tournament is very low level

op is literally saying this geng beats champs prx dude, you’re agreeing with me

what? Their pearl and bind were goated (trolled bind in grand finals though), ascent, fracture and lotus were world class too and split was ok with haven as permaban. Compare that to a team like sen in madrid who have a really solid split and lotus, ok sunset and icebox and dogshit everything else

yes they pick first too. In my opinion this gf is a 3-0 or 3-1 for geng regardless of who makes it up there, sen and prx’s map pools are too inconsistent. Teams that win from lower bracket historically had really solid map pools so the double ban didn’t matter that much but in this event geng is the only team with more than 3 or 4 good maps

no it’s always been double map ban for the team in uppers

sen can’t ban anything if they beat prx, geng get both bans

not hard to pick apart a 4 map pool after having weeks worth of vods, none of these teams sniff top 3 at champs last year

your eyes don’t work

SEN 3-2 PRX
GENG 3-1 SEN

I mean those teams also have their own issues so no, by shanghai the story might be different though. I just think doing a masters right at the start of the season with no round robin for teams to fix their problems is stupid, the level of play is so much lower like this

internationally I don’t think so but they won pacific grand finals last year

eg upper finals vs prx was actually close though

fully deserved, only team at this event with more than 4 good maps

it’s kinda crazy how a team so allergic to any map where they can’t play raze is top 3 at an international lan, says a lot about this tournament

unironically true and real, both matches today were very low level

downplaying the event because your fav team lost or couldn’t qualify is stupid, downplaying this event after watching it is the logical thing to do

my point isn’t that they’d win madrid, it’s that nrg are already almost at the level of sen despite only having a fraction of the time together because of eg’s fuckery while sen had the whole offseason, thinking they can’t overtake them later in the year is retarded. No clue wtf is wrong with fnc though

edit: also kc did have the majority of the offseason, this roster was together since at least october

I agree, they couldn’t win madrid with a month of prac, they’d look like how prx does. By shanghai they’ll be better than sen though unless they refuse to practice

garbage igl and coach almost 2-0d the current tournament favourites with 1/5th of the time together lmao

yes i’m watching, it’s low level valorant decided at the map veto because these teams (except maybe geng) have a 4 map pool at best

rito wants you to forget what high level valorant looks like so people actually take the ‘kickoff’ events seriously

you can tell loud and prx especially had to change up their comps last minute after they got exposed and have very spotty map pools as a result, this is why I feel like this is overall the lowest level event maybe ever. Most of these teams don’t even have a 5 map pool yet for fuck’s sake. Rito needs to put a full round robin split before masters 1 imo

fnc beat vit with a sub and got 2-0d by a team that got grouped at masters, this isn't a goat debate it's about right now this year

geng is fun to watch, they got some aimers

who else is he gonna replace? Jawg and derrek are the best players on the team, apoth is playing better than supa and n4rrate on full time sentinel seems wrong, nature is igl. You could even have him take the demon1 role and flex jawg to smokes on jett maps like 2023

if you think kick off was eg at their best idk what to tell you, they only had 3 maps ready otherwise they'd have picked bind into loud over the 2 maps they already played

c9 and eg are budget and had no money for him over kc, sen have zekken and nrg got demon1. Only team that fumbled was 100t keeping assuna

they literally had the least time together of any team in the world and already look mid-table americas, with a firepower upgrade like that and more time to cook it's def possible

-supamen +n4rrate and eg would win champs again

"bit of glazing but hes the goat with the op" was not about zekken surely, idgaf about the acs of chinese mwzera lol he can have fun checking his stats page from home. My point is edg will never get better unless they realise this playstyle isn't good and I don't think they ever will at this point

he was only 'goat' with the op in 1 international event, he was ass at champs once good teams figured out how he plays and started actually punishing him. The issue with edg's coaching staff is they don't even understand why they aren't good, they're not learning from their mistakes

boaster literally said their goal was to win all 3 internationals this year lol

eg were known for being controlled and fnc smoked them at tokyo

no I just think his analysis (especially live) is garbage compared to people like sliggy or fns and he’s just a bitter eu frog in general. He hyperfocuses on what he thinks teams do wrong to do his angry streamer reaction schtick when half the time it’s just him not understanding the strat

life tip: always do the opposite of what tmv says, he’s the biggest fraud ‘pundit’ I’ve seen in ages which is wild because he actually watches all the games

2 tournaments in a row no podium finish kkkkkkkkkkkkk

prx fans are like the worst parts of sen and loud fans mixed together

2021 last 2 events, that’s it

only sen look drilled at all, even geng are just running it down killing people half the time. I understand some teams had big roster changes and some of those late in the offseason so I’ll give them a pass but It’s really an indictment on teams like fnc who made barely any changes that they couldn’t qualify, even in champs form they at least make grand finals here