C9 has a long and storied history across multiple esports.
Even though they get trashed by VLR they have a deep fanbase from org history alone.
VLR is not a good measure of overall public opinion. Half the people here are jobless children who don't actually contribute to the overall fan ecosystem to begin with. C9 100 percent has more fans than VLR would indicate.

bzka winning champs speaks more for the winning roster itself than for his coaching ability
look at his mibr performance after, complete dogshit

meanwhile alecks was the head coach of a team that made every international from franchising start until this year
champs runner up and multiple high placements at internationals across multiple metas

alecks on fraudwatch rn but he does have a much better track record than bzka
bzka got carried by his roster, its hard to say he achieved much himself as a coach

If you give up a normal role slot for another senti it is almost always gonna be the flex player filling for the second senti.

optic chet?????? won masters??????

yeah s1mon is gone from vct with this mental
no team will pick him up now that his reputation is in shambles

americas games are cooked rn with tejo breach postplant shit every game g2 style
more boring valorant meta to date
also less superstars to attract fans like tenz and prime yay

dfm arent bad, held back by art and the coach
#FREEAKAME
#FREEMEIY
#FREEGYEN
#FREEJINBOONG

I'm not arguing for the half of drx thing that was the other guys argument
my point was that akame is the best player on DFM and I just happened to mention that he outaims 2/5 of the roster as well

Mako is good but hes also playing on a top pacific team, so his performance is inflated compared to akame

Akame is on one of the worst teams in the league rn and they usually get curbstomped so there isn't much he can do as an individual. I reserve any real judgement on his potential till we see him on an actually good roster.

Art isnt toxic
he does get emotional in games and that for sure affects his performance

no they said that he was babied through champs and refused to fix his mindset even after champs

??????
watch akame's clips he's 100 percent a cracked aimer
easily clears beyn and mako in terms of fragging power

EMEA is also boring as fuck to watch
half the teams are complete trash and the other half has no distinguishing features that make them fun
APAC is always fun to watch
NA has drama to carry the games
CN is TDM every game

akame has been DFM's best player for a while now
he fs is better than beyn on initator but you can't really compare the rest since he plays a flex role

shitty mentality
so many players would kill to be on that team and he's acting entitled and ungrateful for the spot
if you don't care to win and prove yourself you don't deserve to be a professional player

jinboong is solid wdym?
honestly among available players jinboong is probably one of the better options, plus he has good chem with akame.
Yatsuka or DH maybe would be better but the riddle core probably isn't looking to split anytime soon.

did he IGL in JP challengers?
but even if he can it would be a shame to nerf my goat like that tbh

akame jinboong meiy and gyen deserve more than this cursed winless org

ong if he could not be deadweight and drop a normal scoreline DFM take this game easily

FNS can hold his corner and get one kill every time
meanwhile art will spam 200 odin bullets into thin air every round and die

akame has been like the most consistently good player on this iteration of DFM wdym life game

THIS GUY IS CANT CALL CANT SHOOT CANT EVEN ABUSE ODIN PROPERLY

SAVE AKAME GYEN MEIY AND JINBOONG FROM "JP FNS" ART

people hating for no reason
no way you rather have mindfreak or davai over this guy

????????
not true at all?????

PRX can't play a normal comp because they aren't a normal team

davai is the problem

think davai is on astra because jinggg needs to be on phoenix

Would still be 0-4 if they dropped jinggg considering how good he's been playing in recent games.
Mindfreak was always just avg in terms of fragging.
Jinggg is at least making the games close, even if they lose.
PRX would be worse off with jinggg out imo. Mindfreak is never dropping jingg's numbers consistently.

Overblown asf, he looks great on smokes
More kills than mindfreak would have on his role.
People complain about jingg forcing roles to change, but mindfreak has never been a hard carry to begin with.
Playing around jinggg is arguably better considering his fragging power.

Jinggg haters gradually becoming more annoying than jinggg fangirls.
PRX needed a change and this one works.

they believe too much in wgaming
It's not always they best way to win a round
5 man running down site execs without manipulating rotations, getting lurks, abusing info gaps
IGL would help but the core identity of the team needs to change

Gonna sound crazy, but 100T is a prime example of what PRX could be. Controlled aggression with strategy. wgaming can still work, but they need to figure out how to use it strategically instead of hoping to win a 5v5 brawl every time.

PRX aren't losing because of jinggg. He is playing very well.
PRX are losing because people know how to play against them because they only play aggressive and don't know how to work the map.
PRX are losing because they don't have an IGL to make good calls.
PRX are losing because they suck in the current tejo meta.

Lots of reasons, none of them are jinggg.

Akame in for Ash
GENG win Toronto and Champs

good util + insane firepower makes up for meteor being out
he or foxy9 can run double duelist

??????
No it literally doesn't, t1 won bangkok with double duelist.
PRX can play double duelist if they want.

Davai wouldn't shoot straight even if he was playing skye. Patmen clears him on flash init. He is shit, his role isn't the problem.
Forsaken literally plays every role so no role issues with him.
Jinggg is fragging better than MF on smokes. His new role isn't a problem.
Patmen is also a flex player as well. His role is not an issue.
Something has been a jett one trick since the start. His role is the only issue.
Mindfreak sentinel looked fine. He fragged about the same as he would on smokes. His role is fine.

4/5 players are on good roles, why are you complaining about role problems?

davai is shit on every role, unc is the worst player on the team

forsaken is the best flex player in the world, every role is comfortable for him

MF isnt out of the team, he is on a temporary break.

The roles look much better. Something can't play raze for shit I promise you. He farmed in JP on raze because he was just running at them and shooting, not because he is good on raze. He is the definition of a jett one trick. Something wouldn't be able to do half the shit he does on jett with raze movement.

Its fine too keep both because something and jinggg are the best jett and raze players in the world atp. Both are very mechanically talented.

Also objectively if mindfreak can play sentinel consistently well this change is honestly for the better. He has never been the hard carry of the roster to begin with. It's much better to play around something and jinggg comfortability if you want to win games.

PRX aren't shit because the roles are bad.
PRX are shit because they have terrible macro and strategy.

This change is an upgrade no matter what you say. Hating at this point is just stubborness.

complaining about the best flex player... flexing...
PRX fans create problems out of nothing

??????
something has always been a jett one trick
his initiator is terrible
davai has been shit ever since the skye nerf, I legit cannot remember the last time this guy had a good map
forsaken is a world class flex player so his roles don't matter at all
mindfreak is on a break rn, but his sentinel looked solid before he stopped playing

how are the roles fucked because of jingg?
if anything having jingg on smokes makes the roles way better imo

yeah the jingg hate is so overblown
he is literally playing insane on smokes after just switching over, so its only gonna get better
meanwhile unc is trolling every game with a neg scoreline
hes not even IGLing so there is literally zero excuse for his performance

chill out it was dfm map pick
PRX can recover, they are in a transition phase rn to adapt to the current meta

jingg looks solid on smokes
just need to drop d0v0i for an actual igl imo

sign an actual igl sentinel player maybe
would solve both the issue of terrible macro and not having a competent senti player

jinggg smokes is good
you don't particularly need insane game sense for smokes if you have aim like him
just drop smokes and start fragging out

paper rex as a team honestly has no clue how a fucking lurk works
every exec is 5 man util dump

Sayaplayer was super inconsistent imo. Rossy and iZu hard cleared him in terms of consistency on last years roster.

jingg is less of a problem than d0v0i
unc goes negative every game and looks like shit on every role, yet we all flame the current best performer on the roster after he makes a roleswap he looks good on?

Yeah even on offensive lurks he will walk halfway up to a corner and sit there half the round, get spotted, and then call his team away.
90 percent of this guy's rounds is walking to a corner and then sitting there for the duration of the round, desperately hoping for someone to walk into his crosshair. Its actually embarrassing how unconfident he his in his own ability to frag. Never taking risks at all on sentinel, arguably one of the roles where risk taking is highly encouraged and rewarded

FNS mechanics actually limit his calling.
He can't put himself in any situation to pop off and carry the round as a sentinel.
FNS will never win the lurk 1v1 or anchor a site successfully solo, and he isn't confident enough to take the timings and space he needs to take to get the info and kills he needs to get.

Meanwhile IGLs like boostio and munchkin will at least try to put themselves in winning positions and have the confidence and ability to make a play when needed.

FNS lack of confidence bleeds into his calling as well. Barely any risk taking ever and relying mostly on set plays and extremely uncreative round calls. He treats his teammates like he treats himself, he doesn't give them the calls they need to shine because FNS just isn't confident anymore, in aim or in calling.

in east asia the last/family name goes first
family name is kim in this case, and their actual names are taeoh and taeyoung

its over NRG 2-1

would be easier if you just summarized each remaining match's effects atp
ts is not reader friendly at all

0/8

hyunmin 2nd I swear he has aimbot installed on his brain