or FNATIC ties PRX in choking (2 2nd places)
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or FNATIC ties PRX in choking (2 2nd places)
0/8 from Alecks
PRX not gonna win a trophy
well les compare it to Valorant Ranks:
roughly looks like this:
bronze and iron:
lmfaoo 😭😭😭
G2 bros did the 4-11 comeback and thought they were Fnatic
it has been alfajer since 2022 (he did fall off a bit in early 2025, but he is back now)
he might not be the best with abilities, but it probably him
mibr went 0-4 in maps and won 19 rounds (lowest ever).
trace went 0-4 in maps but won more rounds than mibr total (22) against the best teams of the event (bangkok T1 and G2).
yes Toronto is valued more than Bangkok (for the mibr > trace argument), but since trace went up against the best teams, they go higher
slight subjective ranking so Liquid > Sen (plus they have looked better in both events anyways - just not being able to farm china is the only difference)
???
we have the 2 good/used-to-be good teams that are worse and better than Americas' 1 good team (VIT < G2 < FNC)
we have decent team who has been better than SEN (TL > SEN)
and we can agree TH > MIBR (TH > MIBR)
EMEA is better
That's a two event gap (unless your statement is because EMEA still has a chance at Toronto, so you're not adding that event for EMEA but you are for AMER, which is a little misleading).yes this is why^
The grand finals point is fair, but if you want to do that, why not take grand final appearances in the last six events (two years): EMEA 2-3 (if FNC win) and AMER 3.i chose that since Shanghai (3 events ago) is the first event since EMEA/AMER have not won anything
if FNATIC lose, they will be tied in lost finals to PRX and TH
waiting for who wins torontomasters toronto placements > bangkok placements in general basically
Version History of rankings : https://www.vlr.gg/499675/2025-top-10-teams-so-far/
2025 Team Ranking (Placements + Subjective) - [Toronto Playoffs (Upper Finals and Lower Round 3 have Concluded)]:
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region ranking:
americas hasnt won an event in 4 events, emea 5 events
americas isnt far off
also in the last 3 grand finals, 2 EMEA appearances (Champs, Masters) > 1 AMER appearance (Kickoff Masters)
and we might get Fnatic in the finals
PRX havent gotten revenge on SMB from 2021, FPX(EMEA)/NAVI from 2022, C9 from 2023, 100T from 2024
also they dont need to get revenge on Fnatic since they already beat em before Tokyo once (its more of a rivalry instead of something PRX needs to get revenge on)
AMERICAS fell off so hard its insane
havent won in 4 events (gonna beat EMEA's record soon)
that aint how it works
I mean KC (could be a stretch) could be argued as well since they beat TL in ewc
MIBR got 3rd place twice in a row in AMERICAS now.
looks like everyone below MIBR is 🤡🤡🤡
SEN isnt too good either (0-2 in bangkok, only beat chinese teams at Toronto): 🤡🤡🤡
is "dystopian" the right word? idk im asking
ever since tokyo...
Individual walkouts >>>>>
i cant remember for some reason...
its not an enzo sneak
just cuz he hasnt been a top tier player at all times doesnt mean that the clutch wasnt insane
so dum. He said he is tired of seeing the judge 1v5 (its a judge...).
The only clutches that deserve to be shown are FPX Ardiis 1v3 DRX 2022, FNC Alfajer 1v2 LOUD 2023, FPX Suygetsu (basically 1v4) 2022, and FNC Enzo most insane defuse 1v3 LEV 2022
bump since there r so many player comparison convos
1st pick: Derke/Boaster/Nats/Chron
Chron Derke Leo Boaster Nats easy decision
this team cant lose^
He was a top 10 player in 2021, 2023 and 2024 don’t forget
Don’t argue about 2024 (everyone agreed with me back in 2024):
https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition
G2 or Fnatic is winning toronto
relax
i cant think of a more fraudulent top 6
W
and chinese and american team:
https://www.vlr.gg/vct-2025/standings
you are the average unnecessary reply that didnt bring anything to the convo
It is unbiased for Toronto: PAC > EMEA > AMER > CN
with EMEA, AMER, and CN being interchangeable based on the outcome of the event
dont forget nats visa issues isnt just nats not being there. It is also about nearly zero prac time for a new meta btw (while AMER and CN teams got 4 weeks and PAC got 3 weeks)
that doesnt mean PRX is bad lol
those are the ones that matter
also since Shanghai (all EMEA AMER games including non-elimination):
and this is EMEA's worst time in history btw^
he started in EMEA actually
see for urself
Even I was wondering why so much glaze for some guy that seemed like an exit fragger. Derke >>>>>
but then I watched FNC vs GEN.G
my mind has been completely changed
Duelist: Kaajak
Sentinel: Alfajer (leaf is ass)
Initiator (igl): Suifatbb
Controller: Spring
Flex: Jawgemo (f0rsaken < jawg)
this is actually right
Mibr and TH cancel out (with TH being a bit better - more rounds won)
"EMEA is the worst region" 🤡🤡🤡
MIBR: 🤡🤡🤡 (MIBR has been the 3rd best team in AMER twice (Kickoff and Stage 1) btw, so the rest of AMERICAS 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡)
SEN: 🤡🤡🤡 (has only beat China and gotten rolled by TEAM LIQUID, FNATIC, DRX, PRX)
G2: 🤡(will be clowns in 2 days as well)
Americas gotta focus on themselves first kkkkkkkkkkk
EMEA hasnt won in 5 events (cant include this one yet)
AMER hasnt won in 3 events (cant include this one yet)
EMEA has attended 2 grand finals in the last 3 events, AMER has attended 1
Americas is so overrated
NA wins: XLG 2x, BLG, WOL
hmm i wonder why
Fnatic vs Gen.G : Early Grand Finals 1.0
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