Turtle Troop used it first -> FNATIC used it before both SEN and LEV
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Turtle Troop used it first -> FNATIC used it before both SEN and LEV
VITALITY
or FUT (to finally get a top 4 at their 5th event)
Group A: FNC, FPX, PRX, SEN - FNC and PRX/SEN qualify
Group B: G2, DRX, TRACE, FUT - G2 and FUT qualify
Group C: EDG, LEV, TH, TALON - LEV and TH qualify
Group D: GENG, VIT, KRU, BLG - GENG and VIT qualify
assuming G2 and GENG get 1st seed in their respective regions
they could get EDG tho (super free match)
https://www.vlr.gg/377907/sen-all-possible-groups/
#1, #2, #3, #4 in each group
1 team from each region
#1 vs #4 and #2 vs #3 are the two opening matches of each group
all time. has to be FNATIC right? especially with all the stuff they cooked this year and 2022
LOUD is also a shout.
and FPX/NAVI (especially 2022-2023 - remember when they had like 10 different comps on each map. this year not that much)
Boaster > all bruh
what are you doing...
I see them beating PRX, VIT. (since PRX are shit and VIT are very inexperienced on international Lans)
they would also 100% beat EDG, FPX, TRACE (tier 5 region)
all possible groups for SEN (assuming DRX beats GENG in Pacific gf):
winning this game (getting 2nd seed) means you are going to go against either Trace, Team Heretics, or PRX
I would not want that.
instead I would lose this game (get 3rd seed) and go against either FPX, Vitality, or DRX
however, in the off chance that DRX beat GENG, I would wanna be 2nd seed.
when Champs 2024 boutta be at 1am (pst). and its gonna prob be the most competitive champs ever
VIT's first international match vs super experienced team
they prob wont despite looking better
Berlin Gambit > Champs Gambit > Iceland Sen > Berlin Sen > Stage 2 Gambit > Champs Sen
KRU losing this match will be 3rd seed.
VIT will go against a 3rd seed (either Trace, KRU, PRX). As long as VIT dont get PRX, VIT is chilling.
TL, the 4th best team of EMEA (who wasnt even supposed to be at the event until FPX couldnt attend) went +4 rounds against LOUD and lost a close 1-2
FPX would shit on LOUD
everyone talks about the OPTIC run, but some of their placements were a bit fraudulent:
Reykjavik 2022 1st: slightly fraudulent
even if FPX was there, OPTIC is a top 2 team so ig it doesnt matter
Copenhagen 2022 3rd: FRAUD ALERT ☠️ ☠️ ☠️ FRAUD ALERT
GUILD beat optic and only lost to FPX and PRX (the finalists). Guild was the real 3rd place of that event. Meanwhile OPTIC farmed XSET (who looked SO bad at Copenhagen, that OPTIC vs XSET game was one of the worse NA games internationally ever) and DRX (who were 5th-6th cursed again so it was a free win for OPTIC)
Champs 2022 2nd: valid
valid
goat duelist: Aspas
goat flex: Chronicle
goat initiator: Leo
goat IGL: Boaster
goat Controller: MaKo
goat Sentinel: Less/Alfajer/nAts
goat of the goats has to be Chronicle FOR NOW (most trophies, most finals, on 2 different legendary teams, every role in the game (yes he played lots of duelist in 2022) and good for all years (2021-2024))
optic against EMEA in 2022:
GUILD 2-0 OPTIC
FPX 3-1 OPTIC
TL 1-2 OPTIC
FNC is at least winning a map
they were 6th best team of overall 2022they were still the 6th best team of all of 2022 (after OPTIC, LOUD, FPX, DRX, PRX)
Reykjavik they had 2 subs (1 also replacing Derke), otherwise they would get minimum top 6.
Copenhagen they got 4th
Champs 2022 they got 5th-6th
dont act like it wasnt close though by saying it was 5-0
yes it was SEN 5-0 FNC in maps, SEN 2-0 FNC in series
but rounds:
13-10, 13-11, 14-12, 16-14, 13-11.
they went only +11 rounds.
GMB would just destroy
they werent mid
they were 6th best team of overall 2022
optic loud fpx drx were just too good
it would still be a good game tho cuz optic was really bad against emea teams
not on the site
but it has a lot
GMB and ACE destroy Iceland sen lmao
If FNATIC 2021 (4th best team of the year) got the score line of 12-14, 14-16, and 11-13 in GF against SEN, prime Gambit and prime Acend destroy
They weren’t the best team of 2021 (3rd best) unlike a lot of ppl believe due to the Americas Pacific brainwashing propaganda
GMB vs SEN 2021
ACE 2021 vs SEN 2021
FPX 2022 vs LOUD 2022
OPTIC vs FNC 2022 (brain igls masterclass game. Would end up being a game like legendary FNC vs GMB game
NAVI vs EDG revenge match for navi
NAVI vs PRX revenge match for prx
NRG vs BLG revenge match for nrg
TenZ was in a slump from 2022-2023 that we can’t forget about
Also chronicle was on flex
He missed A LOT of things
Emea has a better record against americas internationally still
Emea has brought all teams from their region to playoffs of international event more times than americas
Emea has a better record against pacific than americas against pacific
Emea has a better record against china than americas against china
U mean NAVI 2022 core and LOUD 2022 core but yeah. Another reason why lock//in isn’t fraudulent is cuz lockin has the same top 5 teams as champs 2022
LOUD OPTIC DRX FPX FNC/XSET -> FNC LOUD DRX NAVI (fpx) NRG (optic)
Thing is. For 2023, it was FNC > EG LOUD NRG > NAVI FUT GIANTS TL > rest of all teams from Americas and Emea
So it EMEA wasn’t as much of a 1 team region as ppl think
No lmao
It was both
Chronicle was the 2nd best player that year after nAts
I already said before
DRX top 4 in champs
W reverse sweep
W maKo (best controller to touch this game)
possibly
I watched Sliggy and Lothar at the same time once. Lothar was able to point out a lot more mistakes the teams were making than Sliggy.
but Sliggy is still a really good streamer to watch
TMV does not have charisma ☠️ ☠️ ☠️ ☠️ ☠️
OH MY GOD
WHAT DID I JUST WITNESS
TOP 20 CLUTCH of all TIME
even Tarik has done Viper cosplay
and TenZ has done Jett i think
???????????. as if they didnt change half their players
oh yeah true
he has many hot takes, which DO end up being true.
how??
I always ask for good reasoning/stats/numbers (most ppl that reply to me just go off topic though)
why though?
there is no reasoning lmfao
EMEA analyst/commentator for 2020-2023
was at international events too as an analyst in 2021
he used to be a pro player on G2 for the game: Hearthstone
you people are missing out
live: https://www.twitch.tv/lotharhs
new edit: just cuz he made a hot take doesnt mean his streams are bad or he's a bad person lmao. dont keep bumping this thread
how?
FNATIC players are better
dont downfrag me just cuz its an EMEA team that has the player quality?
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