FNATIC vs GEN.G Toronto 2025 (and it hasnt even ended yet - 2 map bangers already)

sorry PRX vs TL

PLS GIOMDSGKMDKSLGMNKDSNgkjsdnkjnsdgsdg

LES GO FNATICCCC

FNATIC OMGASOMGKJSDNkjdgnkje

YMASKGMKAEMGKSDMGg

KEEP ALFA DONT DROP HIM ( i was an alfa doubter)

AFLAJER KFAJKGNKSJDNG

easily EMEA

dont lie

OMGOGNAS

GEN.G 3 pistols and clutches
FNATIC are back in choker form from 2021-2022

CRASHIES????

FNC vs SEN 2021 Reykjavik (FNC lost 2 OT and 11-13 to lose 0-3)

also FNATIC"s consistency since 2021 (11/14 international tournaments attended, 10 Top 8s Internationally, 5 Top 4s Internationally, 3 Top 2s, 2 Top 1s)

true

Copenhagen: 2-2
Tokyo: 3-1
Shanghai: 1-3
Toronto: looking like 0-4

FUCK T3XTURE GOD DAMNIT

W CARRY

the biggest glaze post I've ever seen holyyy

most that I had to debate about basically

anyways focus on FNC vs GEN.G lock in

separate doc copy paste

Ange1:

1. Ange1 contribution to early Valorant understanding + IGLing (2020). He made a whole youtube channel that taught IGLs and stuff.
2. Top 4 First Strike EU 2020 (best region at the time)
3. Top 4 Masters 1 EU 2021 (best region at the time)
4. Top 1 (realistic) during Reykjavik 2022 (objectively + stated by OPTIC themselves multiple times. OPTIC won Reykjavik 2022 btw) (but couldnt attend due to war)
5. Top 1 at Copenhagen 2022
6. Top 4 Champs 22
7. Top 4 LOCK//IN
8. attended Tokyo 2023, realistic top 6-7 team at Champs 23
9. did decent in EMEA Kickoff 2024 and EMEA stage 1 2024 (unluckily lost in single-elims to Heretics)
10. finally fell off after stage 2 emea
11. Other: Ange1's team is in the top 5 teams to have the most top 4s (FNC, LOUD, NV/OPTC/NRG, PRX, FPX(EU)/NAVI)

meanwhile Munchkin:

1. attended a few international events with CR (japan was a free ass region back then) and didnt get close to any high placements (I think they only ever won 1 game against t3 Brazilian team)
2. Finals of Madrid
3. Trophy in Shanghai
4. 9th-12th champs 24
5. In 2025, didnt attend Bangkok, currently looking like a top 1-4 team at Toronto (but hasnt gotten that placement yet)

FNATIC would not have 11/14 international tournament appearances, 10 top 8s, 5 top 4s, 3 top 2s, 2 top 1s without Boaster. It is a fact

wait i was tripping

bump

Johnqt:

1. stint in 2022 with ghost gaming in group stage, but fell off in the NA qualifer playoffs
2. won Madrid 2024
3. fell off during Shanghai 2024 time
4. top 4 at champs 2024
5. 1-13 against TL at bangkok
6. has only won against chinese teams

There are IGLs way more successful than him with way more longevity

"boasters is amazing but saying hes the best just doesnt roll off the tongue right"

It does roll off the tongue right. He has been the key factor in Fnatic being a top 1-8 team overall every year.

Think about Fnatic without Boaster:
There is no way FNATIC would be attending 11/14 international tournaments and getting top 8 at 10/11 of them, top 4 at 5 of them, top 2 at 3 of them, and top 1 at 2 of them.

"boaster has also always had amazing players surrounding him"

this argument is the most brainded thing I've seen ever on vlr.

if munchkin won both Toronto AND Champs, then go above Boaster

otherwise nah, and he isnt really that close to the top 4 (Boaster, Saadhak, Fns, Ange1)

Ange1:

1. Ange1 contribution to early Valorant understanding + IGLing (2020). He made a whole youtube channel that taught IGLs and stuff.
2. Top 4 First Strike EU 2020 (best region at the time)
3. Top 4 Masters 1 EU 2021 (best region at the time)
4. Top 1 (realistic) during Reykjavik 2022 (objectively + stated by OPTIC themselves multiple times. OPTIC won Reykjavik 2022 btw) (but couldnt attend due to war)
5. Top 1 at Copenhagen 2022
6. Top 4 Champs 22
7. Top 4 LOCK//IN
8. attended Tokyo 2023, realistic top 6-7 team at Champs 23
9. did decent in EMEA Kickoff 2024 and EMEA stage 1 2024 (unluckily lost in single-elims to Heretics)
10. finally fell off after stage 2 emea
11. Other: Ange1's team is in the top 5 teams to have the most top 4s (FNC, LOUD, NV/OPTC/NRG, PRX, FPX(EU)/NAVI)

meanwhile Munchkin:

1. attended a few international events with CR (japan was a free ass region back then) and didnt get close to any high placements (I think they only ever won 1 game against t3 Brazilian team)
2. Finals of Madrid
3. Trophy in Shanghai
4. 9th-12th champs 24
5. In 2025, didnt attend Bangkok, currently looking like a top 1-4 team at Toronto (but hasnt gotten that placement yet)

not even in top 20 igl all time YET
top 1 sentinel though and top 10 player of all time though (around #5-#8)

nah he would prob just go to #3 (above FNS, Ange1) or #4 (above Ange1)

top igl ALL Time:

1. Boaster
2. Saadhak
3. Finesse
4. Ange1
5. Munchkin

?????????????????????????????

Im such a big FNS fan, but like you gotta stop being a dumass.

100 Thieves having to create a strat: avoid cNed's site (which got them that 7-12 comeback)

just shows how much aura cNed had.

EMEA 2 Grand Finals appearances (more than AMER and CN (who had 1))

and EMEA had Champs, Masters grand finals while PAC had Kickoff Masters, Masters grand finals

so EMEA had the best finals performance in 2024

idk
after jan 1, 2025, something happened to him

he is so washed up now and it wasnt even some slow transition
very sudden

https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition/

this year he did pretty good and the only bad moment was Shanghai vs FUT

?

He was a top 10 player in 2024 (around #9-#11)

look at champs 2024 stats

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top 2-3 player of all time easily. consistently great-good since 2021 with a small drop in 2022. Flexable and has played every role in the game as his main role at some point.

have u seen aspas vs Geng in this same tournament?

Fnatech

woah woah

this was a North American tradition

just cuz we got Crashies (FNC) and Less (VIT) joining doesnt mean EU is the one for tech pauses

the thing is pistol isnt just 4 rounds. It helps the economy and basically = 5-7 rounds

Leo would clear that angle with drone and Fnatic wouldve won already

LMFAOOOOOOOOO

LES FUCKING GOOOO MY GOATSSSS

300 iq play from Boaster stolen from OPTECH in 2022

wtf. this has to be a joke

https://www.vlr.gg/348466/fnatic-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-ubqf (13-11)

and now with double pistol (4 rounds), GEN.G getting a fraudulent win

it goes up to 1.2 because of nAts and Keiko

and 1.6 with Derke and Trexx from Kickoff/Bangkok

Current:
Duelist: Kaajak/Keiko
Initiator: Trent
Sentinel: Alfajer
Igl: nAts
Controller: Karon

GEN.G has won both pistols though

but their playing against the lower seed emea teams or emea teams when they arent good (TH in Madrid and Toronto)

PRX lost to SMB in Berlin 21
PRX beat G2(EU) in Reykjavik 22
PRX beat Guild, FNC and lost to FPX(EU) in Copenhagen 22
PRX lost to TL in Champs 22
PRX lost to FNC in Tokyo 23
PRX beat FUT in Champs 23
PRX beat TH, KC in Madrid
PRX beat FUT in Champs 24
PRX beat TH, TL in Toronto 25

6 streak, but it is just bums like FUT and TH in bad form (with close games to KC and TL)

they basically never beat the actual BEST emea team at the time