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| Last post: | August 11, 2025 at 8:55 AM |
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fk it is 28
someone told me it was 40 and i believed em
EMEA vs AMERICAS:
Series: 47-40
Maps: 119-100
EMEA vs PACIFIC:
Series: 34-26
Maps: 84-72
EMEA vs CHINA:
Series: 13-10
Maps: 33-27
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AMERICAS vs PACIFIC:
Series: 46-35
Maps: 116-93
AMERICAS vs CHINA:
Series: 15-7
Maps: 34-19
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PACIFIC vs CHINA:
Series: 13-6
Maps: 30-18
some Specific (NA, KR, APAC):
EMEA vs NA:
SERIES: 23-27, MAPS: 65-63
EMEA vs KR:
SERIES: 13-13, MAPS: 36-35
EMEA vs APAC:
SERIES: 15-11, MAPS: 35-33
NA vs PAC:
SERIES: NA 31-18 PAC
+28 in FK:FD in the event btw
which is equal to the peak Demon1 performance (one-time eventer). And FNC lost the finals. Imagine they won (not choking quite a few rounds)
most insane heist in Valorant history
Derke: https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2281/valorant-masters-bangkok-2025
Aspas: https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2282/valorant-masters-toronto-2025
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hijack:
FNC Mistic team flash in Reykjavik 2021 finals (the last round) is easily the round "you cant watch" and beats all other rounds in this conversation
yes Marved was good (bro was insane with Prime Vandal) but Yay easily cleared him in the MVP role for Reykjavik 2022.
Marved doesnt make sense there
im afraid the guy who had a strat made for avoiding his site wasnt in the finals or top 4 sadly. (12-7 choke)
There was not an official mvp before franchising
I was there during 2021-2022. and there never was an official one
Also the list has Marved instead of Yay are Reykjavik 2021 mvp. Immediately worrying.
TOP 2:
14 International VCT Events (2021-2025)
14/14:
13/14:
12/14:
11/14:
10/14:
9/14:
8/14:
7/14:
6/14:
5/14:
4/14: FNATIC
3/14: ENVY/OPTC/NRG, LOUD, PAPER REX
2/14: GAMBIT, TEAM HERETICS, EVIL GENIUSES, SENTINELS, GEN.G
1/14: ACEND, FPX(EU)/NAVI, THE GUARD/G2(NA) T1(KR), EDWARD GAMING
TOP 4:
14 International VCT Events (2021-2025)
14/14:
13/14:
12/14:
11/14:
10/14:
9/14:
8/14:
7/14:
6/14: FNATIC, PAPER REX
5/14: ENVY/OPTC/NRG, LOUD
4/14: realistic FPX(EU)/NAVI
3/14: FPX(EU)/NAVI, SENTINELS, THE GUARD/G2(NA)
2/14: GAMBIT, TEAM HERETICS, TEAM LIQUID, 100T, EVIL GENIUSES, VS/DRX, GEN.G, EDWARD GAMING
1/14: ACEND, G2(EU), VIT, KRU, LEVIATAN, T1(KR), NUTURN, ZETA, WOLVES ESPORTS
TOP 6:
14/15 International VCT Events (2021-2025)
14/14:
13/14:
12/14:
11/14:
10/14:
9/14: FNATIC
8/14: VS/DRX
7/14: PAPER REX
6/14: ENVY/OPTIC/NRG
5/14: LOUD, EDWARD GAMING
4/14: TEAM LIQUID, SENTINELS, realistic FPX(EU)/NAVI
3/14: FPX(EU)/NAVI, TGRD/G2(NA), GEN.G
2/14: ACEND, GAMBIT, G2(EU), TEAM HERETICS, EVIL GENIUSES, 100 THIEVES, LEVIATAN, X10/TALON
1/14: VIT, FUT, KARMINE CORP, XSET, V1, TEAM VIKINGS, KRU, T1, NUTURN, ZETA, WOLVES ESPORTS
INTERNATIONAL VCT QUALIFICATION:
Includes LOCK//IN || Updated until Masters Toronto (199 slots)
14/14:
13:
12:
11: FNATIC, PAPER REX
10: VS/DRX
9: TEAM LIQUID, KRU
8: ENVY/OPTC/NRG, SEN, EDG
7: LOUD, X10/XIA/TLN
6: FPX(EU)/NAVI
5: FUT, TEAM HERETICS, TGRD/G2(NA), LEV, GEN.G, T1, ZETA, FPX(CN)
4: 100T
3: VIT, EG, FUR, BREN/SECRET, CR, BLG
2: KC, GMB, ACE, G2(EU), GIANTS/GX, C9, XSET, VIKINGS, KEYD, MIBR, RRQ, TRACE
1: SMB, GUILD, KOI, BBL, V1, NIP, SHARKS, LIBERTY, GE, FULLSENSE, BOOM, NUTURN, F4Q, NTH, DFM, ASE, DRG, XLG, WOL
CHAMPS QUALIFICATION:
VCT Teams Champions Qualification Count:
4/4: FNATIC, KRU, VS/DRX
3/4: TEAM LIQUID, ENVY/OPTIC/NRG, PRX, X10/XERXIA/TALON, EDG
2/4: FPX(EU)/NATUS VINCERE, FUT, SENTINELS, FURIA, LOUD, LEVIATAN, ZETA, FPX, BLG
1/4: GIANTS/GX, VITALITY, HERETICS, GAMBIT, ACEND, G2(NA)/TGRD, C9, 100T, EVIL GENIUSES, XSET, TEAM VIKINGS, VIVO KEYD, GEN.G, T1(KR), CRAZY RACCOON, TEAM SECRET, FULL SENSE, BOOM, TRACE
ye i put him already
Idk why i forgot about him
Not officially
Liquipedia pre-franchising is not official (its written by some random editor)
no MVPs were official until franchising
also Aspas has no place in being that MVP (there isnt even 1 argument)
Ik Derke was pretty good during Champs 2021 but he isnt the finals and so thas why im not debating about that.
Yay didnt do too much in finals though
Also the talk at the time was Envy getting the easiest group despite being 1st seed (they did) which inflated yay's stats
Bro arguably has no HM and you still say ts, your glaze knows no boundgo watch Chronicle Berlin 2021 finals only clips (there are like 20). saying that ^ is INSANE
Overall MVP of 2021: Gambit nAts
Overall MVP of 2022: Optic Yay
Overall MVP of 2023: Fnatic Leo
Overall MVP of 2024: Gen.G T3xture
Overall MVP of 2021-Present: Gambit / Fnatic Chronicle
well actually. 2/48 statements would have to be false (TS and the actual winner)
toronto grand final aint that high in the finals rankings
ended too quickly
bro please end the Fa, fuj, fudge ALfajer jokes please bro
To the few ppl that are saying f0rsaken > Chronicle:
Chronicle:
2021: Initiator (Recon/Support)
2022: Initiator + Controller + Duelist + Chamber
2023: Flex Initiator (Flasher/Support) + Viper + Sentinel
2024: Flex Initiator (Recon/Flasher/Support) + Viper + Sentinel
2025: Sentinel + Viper + Flex Initiator (Flash/Support)
Trophies: 3, Finals: 5, Top 4s: 6, Top 6s: 7, Top 8s: 8
International Appearances: 8/14
Best performances (general objective opinion of everyone):
Berlin 2021: 2nd MVP (VERY VERY closely after nAts)
Champs 2021: real MVP of the tournament statistically (but on runner-up team)
Toronto 2025: 2nd MVP on runner-ups (3rd MVP of the series overall)
Riyadh 2025: real MVP of the tournament statistically (but on runner-up team)
International Ratings:
1.26(#3), 1.19(#4), 1.10(#14 min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.19(#3), 0.94(#53), N/A(China), 1.21(#4), 1.13 (#8), 1.30 (#1)
6 Tournaments of being a minimum top 8 rated player.
Player Ranking Every Year:
2021: #2 player of the year (after GMB nAts)
2022: N/A
2023: #6 player of the year (after Leo, Alfajer, Demon1, Aspas, Derke)
2024: #12 player of the year (after T3xture, Zekken, Meteor, RieNs, Aspas, Karon, W00t, Derke, TenZ, Chichoo, Zmjjkk)
2025: ~#4 player of the year so far (after Kaajak, F0rsaken, Alfajer. Debatable: Meteor, Trent, Derke, T3xture)
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F0rsaken:
2021: Duelist
2022: Duelist + Chamber
2023: Duelist + Initiator (Flash/Support) + Controller + Sentinel + IGL
2024: Flex Initiator (Recon/Support) + Yoru + Harbor + Cypher + IGL
2025: Controller + Flex Initiator (Recon/Support) + IGL
Trophies: 1, Finals: 3, Top 4s: 6, Top 6s: 7, Top 8s: 7
International Appearances: 11/14
Best performances:
Toronto 2025: MVP of Toronto 2025's winning team (realistic: 2nd MVP)
International Ratings:
0.93 (#45), 1.12 (#12), 0.98 (#35), 0.91 (#57), N/A (min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 0.96 (#39), 1.01 (#33), 1.01 (#16), N/A(China), 0.95 (#49), 1.12 (#10), 1.16 (#15)
1 tournament of being a top 10 player.
Player Ranking Every Year:
2021: N/A
2022: #13 player of the year (after Yay, MaKo, Sacy, pAncada, Shao, Derke, Aspas, Suygetsu, Marved, Less, Crashies, Alfajer)
2023: #18 player of the year (after Leo, Alfajer, Demon1, Aspas, Derke, Chronicle, Jawgemo, Less, d4v41, Sayf, Ethan, something, cNed, Zmjjkk, s0m, Shao, MaKo)
2024: N/A
2025: ~#1-#3 player of the year (convo: F0rsaken, Alfajer, Kaajak)
0 debate, Chronicle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F0rsaken
if FNATIC win champs, Boaster can retire and Chronicle can solidify himself as the GOAT (no convo) with many more years in pro play still remaining for him
just need that champs for EMEA. come on
Heretics law
TL patitek whiffing
FNC somehow losing an impossible to lose 5v2
it all makes sense now
Alfajer went +40 FK:FD this tournament by the way
that is enough to be given 3 mvp bracelets
FNATIC vs MIBR
or even:
KC vs MIBR (Saadhak vs Aspas - French City (French Team: Karmine Corp))
would go insane
Team Heretics (Heretics law of losing to 1st and 3rd place)
TL Patitek (for that whiff)
PRX Boaster (for canceling out with Alfajer)
that was 1v2 even if u consider the guy dying
Team Heretics and TL patitek whiffing are the real MVPs of Toronto 2025
FNATIC will never make a finals without Boaster
unless:
FNATIC nAts
cmon boaster needs to close it out with a Champions
he can then peacefully retire
It did change
It used to not be picks before
Groups were not swiss before
He wants to win this champs Paris before retiring and be the #1 team of 2025
relax
omfg bro the chokes from everybody that led to this goddamnit
if FNC didnt get 4th pick...
Rigged playoffs draw
beginning of VCT??
official MVPs have only been given out since LOCK//IN 2023
the 6 tournaments before that are all decided by community opinions
if FNC didnt get 4th pick in the draw again and have to play a hot GEN.G, this tournament wouldve been so easy for Fnatic
rigged draw
in the last 4 events:
3/4 EMEA grand final (Masters, Champs, Masters)
3/4 PAC grand final (Masters, Kickoff Masters, Masters)
1/4 CN grand final (Champs)
1/4 AMER grand final (Kickoff Masters)
EMEA > AMER
you have no points?!
you are delusional. you cant have any conversation backed up with evidence.
4th pick twice for Fnatic btw
shit is rigged
Are you fucking stupid???
FNATIC has the most Top 1s (tied with SEN)
FNATIC has the most Top 2s (4)
FNATIC has 6 Top 4s (tied with Paper Rex for most top 4s in Valorant)
FNATIC has the most Top 6s
FNATIC has the most Top 8s
FNATIC has the most international appearances (11/14 tied with Paper Rex)
FNATIC attended 2 events in 2021, 3 in 2022, 3 in 2023, 2 in 2024, 1/2 so far in 2025
This feels just like shanghai last year
Everyone knows that Team Heretics and Fnatic would win if map bans were equal, but GEN.G and PRX take it instead...
Paris has to be it
So many contenders: FNATIC, TEAM LIQUID, KARMINE CORP with Saadhak Harbor, BBL is popping off, TEAM VITALITY could resurge(unlikely), FUT could return
are u retarded bro?
please go search every year of FNATIC results before u argue with me...
anyways: https://www.vlr.gg/355247/top-10-teams-of-every-year
you should be mostly agreeing with the lists in here (placement-based/success-based)
demon1, aspas, boo easily take that
Btw nice top 8 team of the year every single year, masters bangkok 25? Couldn''t even attend after pathetic performance in VCT EMEA
Masters Madrid 24? Didn't attend aswell
Yeah bro top 8 team every year"overall top 8 team" of the year
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