salvos omen flash was unreal

and you also have to consider there's a decent amount of women and marginalised groups that will just want to solely watch GC also. the same as any other sport, supporting role models. i don't doubt that tech pauses causes a drop for T2 but peak viewer ship for all of them was around the last couple rounds as theyre winning. all days leading up the GF they had higher viewership than most of the GFs too. and its a very big sweeping statement with no proof to say ppl only watched for the drops lol. GC champs shouldnt be a S tier tournament? but its global that you have to qualify for. ascension is regional lmao. i get the frustration but blaming GC for it is weird. ppl just dont care for T2 and its very apparent bcos ppl would be watching it, they know it exists but ppl just arent interested. they wanna watch their fave pros play. plenty of ppl stream it, big names too so it just sounds like cope really

and so theyre not forced to move up if they dont want to. its whatever they wanna do, even if T2 was better some still would just choose GC for various reasons its not all about money but considering rn its like choosing a job or no job its not their fault

yeah 100%. but when its a stabler job do you blame them for not wanting to take a risk? not at all. plus you have to consider the whole scene around GC that also incentivising them to stay. like attending the events are people going to be toxic and cause harm. theres alot of factors in that. i mean taking an extreme example of that french league match where there was alot of violence. that MAY occur when it comes to other pros, especially when politics is involved eg trans, nb and just women in general. its not their fault its the system, which why it would seem dumb to take away from GC and criticize GC which alot of ppl are doing. im sure its far more difficult to balance than any of us will know bcos chucking money at the scene isnt just gonna help theres far more to it. and prizepools arent just based off viewership per say its what sponsors they also have. but yeah id love nothing more for both to be at a better level and its a pisstake theyre still not taking T2 seriously as much as they should.

they would yeah, but regardless of the prizepools and everything T2 is volatile. so do i blame GC players for wanting to stay in GC ? no. but is that also riots fault yeah kinda. im sure its a difficult thing to balance

on a match to match basis im sure its equal. but the GF alone in GC brought in more viewership at peak than 3 regions T2 GFs last year combined. china im not sure whats going on there. From a talent perspective yeah it probably doesnt make sense why they get more prizepool as top GC teams are only just into T2 barely but you gotta think of GC as a separate tournament as its only recently (afaik) theyve introduced GC coming into T2 directly, i.e the winner getting a chance to play in the playoffs or whatever it was? their tournaments are rated as S tier when looking on liquipedia. it runs along side VCT atleast for now

i think thats the most reasonable response bcos the worst would be taking from GC to put into T2, it doesnt sound bad but its a situation where you lift from the ground up not push others down.

i can see that, maybe just didnt resonate with me as much bcos i was interested in volleyball but not to that level, never competed just played casually.

i feel like this year alot of teams are competitive now. theres still some bottom of the barrel teams but even then they can still do good against some teams

what do ppl mean by life changing? what about it made it life changing for you? i too dont really remember much from it, i did watch it a couple years back, so i feel the same as the other guy

nah he is.

engh has some sick set strats

and drops his ego by like 80%

this gotta be bait

comp diff they just dont know how to play against a deadlock

this your only line?

yk im gonna agree w u on this

considering s1mon apologised then whats up with that? and the fact its 4 ppl who have been fighting for the top for YEARS and that ORG vs the new guy who joined in for a couple months ago lol

DRG letting this comp get 5 rounds on attack is bad. double senti defence? ouch

youre acting like no other region has no drama with ex teammates? its bcos what he said was wrong and they wanted to give insight into how he acted. its no different to a tweet lol. NRG for the past 3/4 podcast videos have spoken about Verno again and again.

you had global beating PRX. atleast i got that one right pfft

this is all hindsight.

diabolical...get them off

do we know what the previous tech pauses were?

pansy is in the building its all her she ate the wires (her words)

we see the same w loud tho, where they bring in a new roster n look way better, but they come in and have to play some of the hardest teams in their groups lmao. unlucky timing but they are better than before. plus they had the hardest group anyway

i like that opinion honestly, i agree with everything but IMO id say KK over W0ot but huge respect to him.

24?

kai one man army

art buys odin aces every round

what a time line that would be. from FNC to TH and then APK

and bcos it was champs, the highest you can be, they lose the fire to keep going. its similar to Demon1 bcos they both had a very short journey to the top, they probably dont know how it feels to lose time and time again, especially for china, and then just keep striving to win when youve done it all already.

half the comments are about alecks

i never asked him to apologise. i dont even have twitter lmao i couldnt care less why he did or if he did bcos i genuinely dont care what they do, once again i dont put them on pedestals you do.

youre just wrong tho. its factually a slur my guy. you can just search it up lmao. i mean cmon atleast be right. just type it into google rn and read the responses. ill do it for you:

"In typical usage, retard is a pejorative term for someone who is considered stupid, slow to understand, or ineffective in some way as a comparison to stereotypical traits perceived in those with intellectual disability."

its modern usage between friends is a relatively new thing but for the vast majority its still a slur. its right there in writing. theyve been using it for years.

"A slur is putting someone down by INSULTING a group of people. In the sense of curry and zellsis they are literally just using it to call someone dumb" where do you think its definition of dumb comes from? bcos it meant someone with an intellectual disability! which is why it became a slur well done my guy! you just straight up admitted to it. it WAS a medical term, it changed bcos they change to words like disabled, handicapped etc thats why words like moron, idiot and even this became insults which in turn created a slur bcos this was heavily loaded.

" that by viewing it as a slur. You are insinuating it you should take offense to being compared to disabled people" im not saying that, im saying youre comparing something/someone negatively, to mean disabled.

“Because the word has become a casual description of anything negative or flawed, ‘retarded’ is no longer considered an appropriate way to describe people with intellectual disabilities. And any use of the word, even when used as slang and not intended to be offensive, is hurtful - because it will always be associated with people who have disabilities.”
– Sara Mitton, Board Member, Treasure Valley Down Syndrome Association

the whole point is regardless of intention when you use the word it invokes something in everyone that will make you think of a disabled person. thats just a fact im sorry you dont have that empathy. you need to talk to someone that is affected with this word they will tell you why you should care. its ok tho not everyone can change for the better :)

i mean itll be fns's call in fairness but going from what 15/3 or whatever it was at one point to 18/10 is bad

they have been looking shitter every match tho. i bet theyll come back just to win against PRX for the fun of it

he wasnt in the team by then. they looked way better than previously against SEN

its not just me tho is it. why do you think zellsis had to apologise, so did curry lmao bcos he knows exactly what hes said about latam teams, why do you think so many ppl dont like to use the word, and inversely why do you think ppl like you defend the word so much talking about "intentions" bcos you know its not just a word that has no harmful connotations, bcos youd never use the same argument for other slurs. its most common use by large is as an insult (with friends or not), where most ppl know it as a slur.

it was made as a medical term to mean mentally disabled/slow thats WHY its used as an insult bcos you are likening something to be stupid. it turned into a slur and has STAYED a slur. why do you think these ppl use it? bcos it means stupid, idiot, something you disagree with, something you dont like, its used NEGATIVELY. thats a fact. it still is a slur bcos i for sure know that curry is NOT using it as a medical term bcos they have changed what they use to mean that now. "at BEST a word that was then eventually USED to degrade a group of people, it was not MADE under that context." it was still made to mean a disabled person? it initially came from meaning slow but youre not describing an object as being slow its a person, it always has and always will be a slur. thats a fact and youve proven youve not done a single bit of research into this at all LMAO.

how is this a word when its intentions are relevant but others slurs arent? why are you heavily defending it? words like moron and idiot dont have the same treatment when they meant the exact same thing. just accept this is a slur and move on, maybe learn from it and speak to disabled ppl and ask why they dont like it. learn empathy. bcos you wouldnt say it at someones face would you? maybe realise that harmful words exist and change that. why do we draw the line at disabled ppl but not gay, black whatever else you also agree with that is a slur. we know this is a slur?

I guess the same can be said about you bcos you seem to know currys intentions so much its like you live with him and speak with him daily. im not putting him on a pedestal you are lol. hypocrisy really is funny

jawgs in a way better place

brother your flair WON bangkok

the undisputed best team pfft (NOT BAIT DONT GET IT TWISTED)

Youre not understanding what it actually means then. the words DO harm ppl regardless of saying them to your friends or not it still is used against ppl so why would you wanna keep using it? how is a person to know "oh youre one of the good ones that only uses degrading language to your friends but not against someone from that community" ? So his response to the drama is to make it worse? and stir the pot. its childish. I understand its bait, but you can still say that its morally wrong to bait, bcos its childish and bcos youre disregarding the actual connotations of the word and its affects on the world. if i baited by screamed the n word it wouldnt be funny so why does it change when its this? what youre not getting is that it doesnt matter what his "intentions" are. bait or not, joking to a friend or not. the use of the word regardless means you dont understand its meaning to show everyone he doesnt care nor listen when problems are raised. its narrowmindedness. you cant compare to not knowing something had meat in it to an ALREADY KNOWN SLUR that you continue to use lmao what? its been slur for 20+ years you cant use that argument. we know his intentions are not good. plus yeah you absolutely can have CCs from all over but choosing the guy that deliberately shat on LATAM teams? just leaves a bad taste of not knowing your audience. theres plenty of other streamers no doubt they couldve got 5 LATAM streamers and curry that wouldve been more respectable but they didnt. its still shitty. Ah yes "snowflake" "crying" im literally bawling my eyes out cos of you on VLR. bruh get a grip. youre trying to type like you know what youre talking about but you dont even know the facts of what youre talking about.

its fake bruh. he didnt say it

i think using it kinda does cos ur still comparing someone or something to be so stupid they have a mental illness basically. its just hard to see where some ppl draw the line with saying it privately and then actually saying it infront of someone of that group yk?

him using it replying to others is an instance of degrading someone bcos hes comparing them to someone with a mental illness. bait or not it doesnt morally make it right ???? then whats his intention to bait? and why use that word? bcos he doesnt care n think its funny. is using degrading offensive language not dark humour now? moving goal posts slightly very cute. they have one latam player yet majority of their fans will come from there thats the point, they dont engage with their fans thats the issue and this makes it worse.

thats true but also he was filming so maybe should be more professional too, plus plenty of other words to use that mean exactly the same its just as easy!

i mean if you look further down in the replies he replies to others using it so lmao. the word itself is used to degrade ppl so idk why youre waiting to defend someone that is baiting bcos theyre just POS n clearly dont gaf at what the implications of it mean, theyre tryna be all edgy dark humour lol. and he had to apologise anyway for his comments on certain regions anyway just doesnt make sense that they get this guy to be a CC, same for FNC, when they could get ppl local from the league so yk maybe they can attend the events and stages. get LATAM representation and European respectively

https://www.vlr.gg/event/2380/champions-tour-2025-emea-stage-1/playoffs its the same format for everyone

last time they played haven before cyvoph was against T1 where they wanted to change the comp to -iso +jett and lost 13-4. sayf is a great player but an awful IGL

EGs at the start of the year