he is but theres still gonna be backlash from the community which might tarnish the already bad reputation of sentinels as an org

if they let sintraa in right now, the backlash might be insanely uncontrollable especially since there are casters that hate sinatraa and even analysts who have said they wont do their job if any team lets sinatraa play or smthing like that. So unless they changed their mind and sen are sure that they wont receive as much backlash then they might let datboyjaywon play

its laughable how broken chamber is right now, even jett on her prime wasnt this broken (maybe her right click comes close but thats about it) he is so versatile that u cant just say he is a sentinel, he can do the job of a sentinel (holding a site), a duelist (getting aggressive on defense and not get punished or even create space to a certain extent) and he can op on attack and defense

i understand what ur saying but the people who were crying about jett being broken definitely didnt want another agent to replace her (and good lord the agent which replaced her was somehow even more broken), his tps can be used more than just as a get out of jail free card and he has an instant pull out gun AND alarmbots which makes it easier to control a site while oping

its such an easy thing to understand and yet people still dont

yeah coz streaming isnt as stressful or time consuming as prac, you cant just start prac and leave midway if ur feeling unwell that will affect the team and is a waste of time for them

but in bind u also need an omen and in frac u need a brim sooo isnt it better to stick with dani?

nah not rawkus, they need someone to play smokes so they might try asking zombs or might go with dani again

he said he cant prac rn so they might be playing with a different roster since tenz cant prac with the team atleast for this weeks game, thats what i think will happen but ill be more than happy to see tenz play

snirot is different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqXCxi3HrI4

He is still sick and its really unlikely we see him play this week

Edit :OH BOY, Here comes the TenZ haters

this thread is about ranking top 5 and i just expressed my view on it, this is the current top 5 imo and that will only change with copenhagen Mr.61Hiko (its as simple as someone expressing their opinion)

Edit : also u said fpx and fnc own all of those teams, lets see that after copenhagen, you cant tell which team is better coz every region has their own playstyle and teams that can adapt will be the winners

holyyyy you are so wrong that it hurts to read this comment first of all chamber has a faster version of jett's dash (search yt if u dont believe me), secondly chamber players who die mid tp are way too aggressive and are timing their tp very badly and i like how u said jett ult is good in the right hands but dont consider that the chamber ult AND his tp can be used properly by probably players who are mediocre at the game and also jett dash can only be used as a get out of jail free card but chambers tp can be used as a get out of jail free card AND as a tool to rotate instantly to a different site in many maps and on top of that jett needs to get 2 kills to restock her dash meanwhile chamber only needs to wait 20 seconds ONLY 20 FUCKING SECONDS!

they did make jett less viable which the community wanted but they introduced an agent that was and still is way too strong and he basically replaced jett which the community doesnt want. Chamber has around 86-90% use in pro play and is harder to counter than jett (pre nerf)

yay chamber is miles better than his jett but i can understand why people miss jett coz its flashy af unlike chambers slow and boring playstyle

Just my opinion buddy, If you don't like what you see you are more than welcome to just stfu and leave :)

Theres no way FNC mess it up again.. right?

forgot about loud but we might see some surprises from NA since Optic is the only team that seems consistent rn and one of the teams from group a might (like 100T or TSM) surprise us whereas emea and apac are more clear-cut on top 3 teams in their respective region

true, teams are improving at a really fast rate and adapting to the meta and those who dont adapt get left out

i forgot LOUD existed my bad

Would be amazing to see another underdog run like ZETA (I hope the underdog actually wins this time tho)

DRX seem to have better mid round calling now so they might be a top contender tbh. EG isnt copium actually, they look really really strong all of a sudden but its a stretch to say they are as good as Optic or Fnatic

Who do you guys think have the best chance of winning it all

I'd say Fnatic and Optic have the highest chances imo (FNC looking super strong, maybe even stronger than Optic tbh)
Other teams that might have a chance are Senti- just kidding relax, Guild, DRX, PRX (PRX isnt just forsaken and jing anymore yayyy) and FPX anddd mayyyyybe ZETA

Edit : I didn't add M3C because they look like they are having a rough time figuring out some stuff and don't seem to be doing as hot as Fnatic or Guild

i only used results from international tourneys and by "after reykjavik" i meant like just after reykjavik and i didnt count the new qualifiers but even if i did we cant tell which team is better, you cant just say fnatic is better than optic rn imo atleast until copenhagen takes place and we can see teams actually fight it out instead of throwing around random assumptions that they are gonna do well just coz they are doing well in their own region no matter how competitive one region might be

you wanna place teams using domestic results as a base? lmfaooo ur the one who has no idea about pro val coz thats the standing after reykjavik and ur delusional if u think otherwise

"miracle run" alright buddy u clearly have brain damage, zeta improved more than anybody in the whole entire tourney and played better than all the teams they faced up until optic/loud and yeah sure other pro players might have said they are good and shit but that doesnt mean anything when they dont have any results to show, ur just getting mad over nothing just wait for copenhagen then let ur godtier team win or do smthng then lets talk, dont just spit out random bs

Looking at teams after reykjavik then its
1.Optic
2.Loud
3.DRX
4.Zeta Division
5.PRX

what are u even saying? a title contender? in emea sure but not internationally especially this year, gambit is good but there are 0 results this year to backup what ur saying so until they win copenhagen or get top 3 in copenhagen or actually get better results or heck beat drx they are not better than drx and idk why u think drx arent a title contender they are one of the best teams in the world for a reason

statistically drx are better team coz they have better results (against the team m3c lost against but valorant is a bit wild) but u cant tell who is the actual better team until copenhagen comes around but till then drx are better interms of their results

"literally one tournament" theres only been one international tournament this year (dont come to me with "but previous year wawawa" bullshit) and drx has better results than m3c in that tourney so relax, drx > m3c rn until m3c prove it at copenhagen till then drx is better no matter what u say

true but it seems to be working so its good ig?

actual good take on vlr about prx im impressed lmaoo but i really hope forsaken doesnt have to play chamber on almost every map, his jett and yoru are super fun to watch

Exactly, PRX and DRX deserve more respect from the community and about FPX hmmm im not sure if they would be top 3 in iceland but looking at them rn, they arent as good as they were when they qualified to iceland. FPX seem sluggish and not as coordinated as before but they will be back stronger im pretty sure (their comps are also weird but that might be them experimenting so all good)

not really, PRX is way more coordinated than people think, its not just forsaken and jing doing braindead shit which seems to be what people think PRX are doing, its WAYYY more coordinated and they have set strats which teams usually use to get into postplants or to get into site but prx use their set strats to get aggro and get their main two players into positions where they can deal good damage (although they seem to have taken a step back from the aggro playstyle after watching the recent vct my/sg). They have tons of strats which no team can copy as most teams dont have a jing and forsaken in their roster but like every other team they have their downfalls like certain times it feels like if jing and forsaken dont play well its an instant loss (it has gotten way better rn tho) and just like DRX their mental is weak. From the outside it seems like prx is just doing braindead shit and it seems to be working but inreality most if not all the things they do are well planned (with that being said, i personally like prx from iceland than the current prx because of chamber meta and forsaken playing chamber)

emea teams are good and its certainly unlucky that fpx didnt make it but its a stretch to say that any emea teams (MAYBE other than FNC, a big MAYBE) can beat drx or prx in their current state, emea havent proven themselves this year but the fans use arguments like optic didnt face emea thats why they won or drx/prx got lucky or zeta had a fluke run. People who say this kinda stuff just watch highlights of games and think they know each and everything about the pro scene, M3C havent proven shit this year and rn DRX are miles ahead of M3C but that might change we will know after copenhagen but until then the emea fanboys should stop talking shit about region who is clearly ahead of their region currently

i dont understand why people call out teams like drx and prx as a "fluke" team, they have more set strats and coordination than all of eu in iceland combined

BuT mArVeD SaId M3C BeSt TeAm

yay is somehow still underrated lmfaooo idt people understand how good he is on chamber

you cant really say that m3c looks rusty af rn and drx looked way better than m3c during icelands but u can never really know unless they both get to copenhagen and get to face off against each other

they do have the best strategies in the entire game (almost every single team in most if not all region copy drx strats) but they have sooooooo many issues which include weak mental, not enough layering on the strats they have and sometimes they overthink what the other team is doing and end up making bad decisions. No part of DRX is a fluke and many pros who have played against DRX (they clearly know what they are talking about) have said they are a world class team and have the potential to be the best

as of rn we cant say anything, everything u guys are saying are just assumptions and if i try to defend sen its just gonna be with assumptions as well so its just bettter to leave them be instead of hating on them and make their life miserable, they are humans as well just let them be and they will figure something out and as for the streaming thing it could literally be anything, again, only assumptions can be used. Support from their fans is what they need rn coz their situation is really bad, they DONT deserve this much hate just coz they are streaming for 7-8 hrs, people are going too far and making stupid narratives up

its gonna be the same when optic eventually fall off, narrative will change when another team comes on top

not everyone can prac for 12-13hrs that might be the work ethic that optic are going with but it doesnt mean every team should be doing it as well coz most people would get burned out if they play for that long and optic have a lot of people to back them up like assistant coaches and analysts so fns doesnt have to work as much as shah and rawkus which leads to exhaustion, it isnt the issue with any of the players its the management who really doesnt seem to care much about what the players need to succeed

woah no way man thats crazyyyy i thought everyone had the same immune system!!!

they can make it to lcq and they certainly can get to champs but it depends on what the management is gonna do and if the mentality of the sen players will return to being more postive which is apparently the problem with sen rn according to shahz

this right here, yay is ACTUALLY built different. Just look at the games optic lose and chances are yay probably still has the highest stats in that particular game and in the last 10 games (25 maps i think) yay has only gone negative in one single map and thats using jett, he hasnt gone negative with chamber in like forever. Chamber suits his playstyle very well coz he just likes to wait a long time and overall just be patient and not to include his god tier aim

i thought about it a bit and you are right, maybe having 4 or 3 spots from vrl might benefit both the tier 1 orgs and tier 2 orgs as t2 will have better chance to get into t1 while t1 will have more competition which is overall better for the scene and now that i think about it i understand why na tier 2 scene is in shambles rn lmfaoo

true, it might benefit them more if they use kayo more than skye especially since asuna is basically a god at both kayo and skye but rn kayo is the meta and going for skye just forces them to play with lesser info

yay is way better than any pro in the whole game and he is 100% the best player in the game rn (hurts me to say this because i heckin love tenz and also coz i respect scream a lot but thats the truth), yay is sooooo disciplined and has god tier aim. Yay is just different but that might change with chamber nerf coz yay might be the player who will be hurt the most if he is forced to play other agents than chamber (we know he can shine on jett but idk about any other agents other than chamber and jett that he is godtier at) scream on the other side is really good at raze, his util on raze is average but overall he is top 10 raze eu with little time and we all know he is good at jett, kayo, and even skye so basically, yay is the best player in the world rn whether all of u like it or not but that will for sure change if chamber gets pushed off from meta (which is highly likely) but scream is much more versatile and has proved he can play most if not all the agents and can also igl if the situation calls for it

hmmm true but i want more than just 1 or even 2 teams getting spots, maybe the top 16 teams from vrl can compete for 4 spots? thatd be good for both the t2 and t1 orgs