nope, that's just wrong. Zander is just a solid controller player who can frag tf out and save rounds single handedly but his Igling is below average according to his teammates

valyn and dephh are WAYYYY better than zander and have achieved more so yeah they are options and Im guessing sen already is in talks with dephh

Why is everyone overrating zander? I mean I get that he is one of the few Igls who can frag but he was literally called out by his tmmates for being not that good at mid rounding and his overall Igling ability?

bro copied my thread smh

wippie didnt seem that hot last time v1 played

we still need to see dicey play agents other than chamber but otherwise hes a demon

is he like super good? or another aleksander/rara

who's furbsa?

is Skuba that good? isn't he the guy from the knights roster?

that is literally the reason why riot made a tournament named ascension, most teams will play in ascension especially since u wouldnt have to pay players really good salary it just has to be good enough so there wont be internal issues and stuff

Any players in NA that seem really good and have a lot potential but are really underrated/not known by others? just like how it was with yay before he joined optic?
I heard of randyysavage but idk if pros were trolling or if they genuinely think hes an incredible player

they wouldve made ATLEAST grand finals in LCQ with xeta, no hate on curry but he just never felt as impactful as xeta

Idt thats the point here, vanity took over asigl on v1 and they made it to Lan and when c9 was their worst after tenz left, vanity joined c9 and made it to lan again but obv fns has way better achievements and is overall better than vanity

true but tenz has decided to not resign the contract so it could be possible

I think tenz is just waiting to see how everything pans out and if he is convinced with the new staff then tenz might stay but if not he wont sign the contract, theres no way SEN will drop tenz but the other way around is definitely possible (rob moore heckin loves tenz)

sen moving on from tenz?

he is Pakistani so like he has to take care of his family especially his mom since his dad isn't there anymore so even tho it isnt technically financial problems and moreover he needs money for himself so yeah

"you guys don't know what's happening behind the scenes, if we could practice more i would stream less you guys" he legit said this lmfaooo also maybe u should understand that he isnt getting enough money from being a pro to take care of his family? and thats why he streams and also he enjoys so idk what ur on about and he doesnt have it in him anymore but my point still stand nobody knows everything that happened behind the scenes and like shahz said he doesnt want to blame his tmmates or org for some mistakes and most of the stuff that happened was just unlucky, they couldnt prac coz of tenz and sick but nobody blames them right? its all shahz fault that he got handed 2 new players and had to change EVERYTHING and then because of tenz being sick again on lcq and manyyy more issues that led to the team doing badly that only the org and the players know but even then nobody hates on tenz or sick instead all the hate gets redirected to shahz who is trying his best to balance streaming which he loves and competing which he also loves

common Mjtchell L

"mf was clueless about his own region and kept giving the shittiest excuses in the world" yes indeed, who are you again? you know the ins and outs of every pro NA player than shahz does huh? stop acting like shahz made all the fucking mistakes, he is human too. It is most definitely true that pros do shit in their free time like have you seen babybay? bro goes to every single party in NA no joke and about the ignoring criticism part, imagine ur having a bad day and u stream JUST to see that your chat is talking shit constantly and asking u constantly about why you are dogshit (even tho more than half of them are hardstuck silver), he ignored it for as long as he could and then eventually everyone breaks and shahz just broke earlier than most would that's all there is to it, vlr hates him and kids from vlr show that hate on twitter and some even go to his stream JUST to hate, you guys really thing just because he did a few questionable things he deserves this much hate? and no matter how much u tried to discredit him he won a masters and nobody can take that away from him, fns was there at that time, dephh was and so was all the top igls but shahz was better than all of them and he still can be. Nobody knows anything about what his life is and it could be really bad for all we know so just stop hating on someone for the sake of hating, he might've made some mistakes but it doesnt mean u hate him

you are taking zombs word over shahz lmfaooo shahz is way more reliable and trust worthy than zombs ever will be, he was the same one who said shahz is a drama king or smthng and then went onto call out marved at the peak of his career lmaoooo, zombs starts most of the drama in val and acts like he did nothing so dont ever trust that guy

all good, bang imo is better than marved. That might be a very hot take but idc

bang is almost as good as marved, he just needs time.

bro actually top frags while IGLing consistently AND zellsis made it clear that shahz is a really great IGL but people love to hate him and anyone who gets this much hate will obv react and when he does react VLR is like "OmG RAtZaM"

W, a new coach could bring about enough change to make sen good again, they already have good analysts (weltis and dani) and no big change is really needed

"aight beh BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH" thats sins stream in a nutshell rn

we also didnt see that from dapr or sick so they could just be holding onto them for now or shahz could be going full time content

edit: even rawkus hasnt announced anything im pretty sure

marved looked a bit shaky in champs but still a massive upgrade from any smokes player sen had before

nvm I got it all figured out and I just realized how stupid the whole thing was, kyedae almost got cancelled because she called crashies a "scrawny fuck" while marved said WAYY worse things and ALSO had matchfixing allegations and dude barely had any attention towards him lmfaoo

Ik about what marved said but people are saying smthng about yay? this is confusing without proper context

did tenz ever respond to the whole marved saying stupid shit about his gf?

bro played all the roles in the entire game to make room for new talent

Imagine a Team with
Yay - Chamber/Duelist
TenZ- Duelist/Secondary Flex
Asuna- Primary Flex
Bang- Controller
Fns/Dephh/Valyn - IGL/Fill

They could try and copy prx playstyle but There'd be obvious role clash and inorder to fix that TenZ has to learn to flex or yay needs to, since yay is a better oper than tenz since he is not as flashy as him and also since tenz is one of if not the best riflers in the game learning flex would be easier for him, Yay, tenZ and Asuna could swap between being duelist/chamber/flex or tenz could just get good at raze and thatd solve most of the problems this team might face so they could do yay on chamber/jett and tenz on jett/raze AND this allows the team to open up to reyna who both tenz and yay are really good at but thered be other problems like finding a coach like alecks but if somehow yay and tenz get into the same team then its ggs

winning helped but I think having sinatraa in ur team who had a huge fanbase then getting tenz who will almost get ur team a free slot in franchising is what made sen into what they are today and to further prove their point they got shroud AND tarik

yes but shroud didnt play on lan in valorant

nahhhh that is very diff from what will is doing, deffo made space and overpeeked a shit ton but he definitely has potential AND im talking mostly about will's chamber so yeah

its not about performance coz if then they could get tenz or bdog or dicey, thats not the point here will brings more to the team than any of these players except firepower will knows which fight to take which is largely due to the 100t coaching staff coz when he first came into the team he was overpeeking quite a lot like any other player but now he doesnt let his ego take control as much as the pros I mentioned above or even pros like chronicle or starxo, will rarely pops off but he is consistently winning his team by not doing random stupid stuff as of lately (which is done by a LOT of pros in valorant rn especially overpeeking)

will is being underestimated imo, he provides more to the team than any other chamber player coz he doesnt go for ego peeks at all especially in the last two games like as u saw in some rounds will decides to not take 1v1s when they have a player advantage unlike other chambers like chronicle or dicey or even jampii and its a good thing that 100t doesnt have to depend on will to fragout to get them a map or series win but it would be nice if he pops off here and there and im pretty sure sgares and team are gonna work on their strats next coz their discipline is unlike any other NA (including optic), 100t could be the team that make NA not a "one team region" and I like how people were roasting 100t for not being able to win a single round in attack in ascent and how its coz theres no duelist are super silent rn lmfaoooo I saw knights slow saying the same thing and all of a sudden he goes silent lmaoooo

100t looking super fucking good, hot take but they might be better than the optic we saw last masters. the overpeeking is CONSIDERABLY lower than other NA and EU teams which includes teams like optic and ace but they still need more set plays and sometimes their spacing seems weird but that can be fixed with more time

its not pre-buff, everyone and their mothers can dodge pre-buff phoenix flash

I mean there definitely is a T1 player who could bring the same things that will brings to the table and add more firepower but I think its too late for that now

Imagine a world where he replaces will from 100t for champs (assuming they qual for champs), would it workout. (I'm actually just curious whether it will workout or not, not saying they HAVE to get zombie)

that wasnt him "displayin his dislike of another pro" it was him saying he doesnt think that bang is good as other pros and this was about 10 months ago I think and It wasnt aggressive either just discussing what he thought of bang with his friend but it is true he shouldnt have said that on stream and stuff but so many pros do this alot so for the most part its fine imo

what'd he say?

common dexter w + that was literally what shroud used to do in cs

what else did people think they were actually gonna do? start preparing for masters 1 next year? all of em group up together and sulk about their loss? LOL people just really love to hate in vlr especially when it comes to shahz and things that he does

ok mrbabysasuke

I have a gf, and she- oh wait its the no-lifer babysasuke nvm

amyayayy is underrated af ngl

saya's chamber used to be a hit or miss and his jett used to be clutch but now its the other way around lmfaoo