I just watched the entire C9 vs PRX VOD for the second time and holy fuck prx played every round so fucking badly especially in pearl, just dry swinging when u have man advantage like that xeppa 1v2/3 wouldve never happened if forsaken decided to be smart but no they just HAD to fight over and over again. PRX were known for their controlled and coordinated aggressive plays but wtf was this today man, its disappointing and honestly if this is how they played against other teams then even talon could pretty EASILY beat them (without pati) coz like any other franchised team was more cohesive plus there were literally no team plays by prx like actually 0 team plays other than 1 or 2 in lotus which also failed miserably

haven map, bbl started to string together some rounds, drx usually would not make as many mistakes as they did today but even then drx are favored over c9

yeah they made mistakes that better teams would've capitalized on but thats prolly coz its their first matchup so not much to worry about

if drx are on form, c9 stand barely any chance but if drx look shaky like they did against bbl then c9 have a slight chance but tbh if xeppa and leaf keep up the same performance aand yay and zellsis step it up a bit then they could win

the problem with their playstyle is that it requires forsaken and jingg to always be popping off which makes it hard for them to be consistent as a team, one day they could look like the best team in the world, when jingg and forsaken pop off but then when they arent, they look like how they played against c9

prx played bad like really bad (forsaken in pearl was a jett in an immortal lobby just no comm running it down) but c9 also had some really good ideas and rounds also people are failing to notice how impactful vanity's calling was during this game, hes mostly the reason they won but also xeppa and leaf just werent missing shots so thats kinda unlucky for prx but players like mindfreak, forsaken and jingg were overheating WAY too much I get that its their whole aggressive style but theres literally no reason to fight when ur up a player but they still do and mindfreak... idek bro, he was getting caught out with his knife WAY too often and jinggg was overall like the only person who could string prx some rounds but he made a lot of mistakes on pearl too, overall prx felt like they were a new roster somehow while c9 seemed cohesive and structured to a certain extent

nvm, kc is actually better than i thought they would be, they dont look good but they dont look bad either but fpx are just man they are LOST like it seems as if they have no IGL and also there isnt this insanely mechanical player in that team either so yeah but KC im pretty sure get demolished by either LOUD or GEN G(prolly LOUD)

sometimes the kayo knife detects people that are not there or vice versa, its smthng along those lines and it hasnt been fixed for a long time

KC roster is just a worse version of old TL which is crazy considering how much TL were choking and if scream had an off day, FPX will actually sweep KC

ur fucked if DRX lose but thats like a 10% chance so yeah all g

where lil bro at?

if they need a fade and breach on the same map then tenz definitely could be playing breach instead of sacy

ajayy so dum cant spel brhajzil correktly

he plays kayo so it wont be that suprising to see him on skye or breach

ben tenzzzzz

an hour drive for me to get to uni lmfaooo

im not saying it ok, its just normal and not that harsh? this shit happens every other day and like its wippie bro you kinda expect him to say shit like this and calling him out will only inflate his ego

i mean yeah and? he was mad and shit talked its just normal esports toxicity nothing that bad, just too many soft people. I get the sentiment that wippie hasn't really done much to have this big of an ego but cant do much about it so yeah

its just shit talk, not that deep guys players say worse shit when they play on lan and fpx did the same thing and somehow xset got more hate but now u guys defending breakthru like ur life depends on it

mb.

Idt he lives in america

Lil bro originally said : shoot up the school

vlt sign untamable beasts but -prod +deathmaker or sum shit LMFAOOO

I doubt 1 import would make people go this crazy, even if its marved or whoever just 1 player wont be enough to make people in the scene unanimously say this is the best roster outside of GE but if marved is joining, sin joining alongside wouldnt be too crazy

run jett/raze and then put fisker on support instead of braindead w key, i just watched their games and their strat on attack is just walk up site, exec and if exec fails then wait for sometime and rehit and let something or vici kill everyone while the ohters use barely any utility or any part of their brain to come up with a proper plan and their spacing and util timing is absolutely horrible even for a tier 2 team

you need to be good at that agent to even be called a one trick but he's basically bad at jett too

Idek why they think letting him on the reyna is helping anyone, we surely put something on jett and let fisker play kayo or smthng no?

Japanese valorant is in shambles rn, just look at their comps

definitely gets dropped no? I understand he's like one of those aggro entry type players but Victor who did the same thing was never THIS bad

puts up the same stats on smokes and vici doesn't have someone like fisher running it down so that something can trade him basically assuring him a kill every round and also I don't understand what these comps are like holyy reyna on almost every map is crazy

not the point, I was talking about how everyone was talking about something but not vici

everyone talking about how something is the best but the same people don't see how vici does the same if not better while playing smokes

ajayyy are delusional and stupid :D

blud

you shouldve said prepare to get folded tbh

people tend to alsp forget that xset didnt just become the best team as soon as they added cryo, it took them a few months before champs to work a lot on their stuff to get that top 4 in champs, give sykko and dephh more time and they can cook smthng up especially since this roster is better than the xset roster from previous year

all the teams that were there had 4x sens prac and that matters because sen are literally a entirely brand new team

its andrew, just dont give him attention kid has the worst takes in this site especially about tenz

t1 have been together for almost 2 months now, sen have been together for a week now

your logic is flawed, its not their fault they only prac'd for one week pancada and sacy couldnt get their visas approved in time and thats the reason they only have one week of prac and also it isnt even an excuse, its just facts that they have only 1 week of practice when compared to that of tgrd who has more prac AND no mattwr how many world chamls you have on ur team, without prac nothing matters especially since sacy and pancada are coming from an entirely different ecosystem and infrastructure

and tsm still got run over.... aight -Gmd, -seven, -naturE, -hazed, -corey, +dark ratio

they havent prac'd on this map before???????

aproto would've been great but I still think subroza would be the best since he is an ex-IGL so he was very vocal and could've helped shahz a lot

OH YEAH, I forgot zander he would've been a solid controller

true but STILL who would they have had better results with

I'm not focused on the drama part, I just want to know underrated talents that could've been a smokes player for them

I just wanna know WHAT IF shahz and co "denied" getting shroud in the team and instead opted for someone else, who would've been the best choices? subroza and skuba comes to mind because their teams werent playing at LCQ. Anyone else who would've worked better?

isnt stewie Igling for The Nation or is it rossy?

he was shit talking xset without knowing the entire context on twitter and worst part was it wasnt banter, he was genuienly mad at the xset guys for smthng riot did

kat was the worst in c9w and meL is igling while also dropping good numbers atleast more than expected of an Igl

then I dont get why people are calling her mid because she is putting up massive numbers and rarely goes negative for an igl tbh and I saw people saying she wasnt the star player of c9w?? like there were so many games where she hard carried c9w while being an Igl which is unheard of