I initially wrote a long response to this but ill shorten it to this: do we think this is at all a productive thread/claim to make? (i agree with you minus the allegations being false, even if doubt was cast upon them that doesnt mean they are explicitly false)

No. Zellsis was the better player in 2021/2022 and was still pretty good in 23 and still decent in 24.

Same with me. I had watched some pro val in 2021, but their 2022 stage one run is what really got me into val esports

As long as you have srg/tl/mibr winning its a W

I miss mce man… i hope he comes back to vct when he finishes his degree

This team would mental boom halfway thru stage one i love it

Ur getting 5/6th this yr little bro g2 gozen washed

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/0cd9121c ngl i havent watched as much gc as past years

Damn thats crazy. Hope these players can get on a roster

blud said gmd

*unless my favorite team wins it

faze 2022 was such a fun roster

understandable reasoning

You will learn the EG players' names when the finish above you this year :)

true, im not blaming leaf for bangkok loss, multiple players on g2 had the opportunity to close the series out and they didnt. Also t1 just played really fucking good in that final, by far their best game of the year and definitely wasnt a g2 underperformance

switch g2 and mibr (need to see mibr function as a team before calling them #1) and swap EG and C9 then it looks good to me

if you barely frag above your perma breach playing chamber, vyse, viper you are adding much less value to the team

he was the worst player on his team bangkok gf? jaw trent and valyn fried that game and jonahp was decent

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NA events will always have a great crowd because no matter the two teams there will always be a good amount of fans of both

yeah every bad team from last year looks significantly better. the top 3 of g2, nrg, mibr (in any order) is obvious and to me the bottom 3 of fur, envy, and c9 (although i dont think they are that bad) is pretty likely, but that middle 6 i think you could argue any of those teams between 4-9. Going to be a fun year

hes a great player for sure but none of that makes him the goat nor the best player in NA in my opinion. Especially because flex players basically only are rated as good or as bad as their teams are.

ur exaggerating hella but people calling him the goat or the best player in NA are tripping

+corrode came into pool

THIS IS EMEA'S BEST???????????? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

band was good af. definitely exceeded my expectations for an offseason event

since june 25th 2023

one of the matches of all time

zekken or keiko perhaps

ngl i did not know his name was gucci and not pronounced like guck

Real ones been on that wave already

as bren would say "HES GERIATRIC, HES GERIATRIC. COME ON YOU'RE GETTING PAID TO PLAY"

agree, although its probably best for players just to ignore it

I think calling a player trash is not that bad, but it better be on vlr or in person and not like on twitter under players posts and shit

i wish the players would talk shit to each other, but at least we can rely on their gfs to do it for them

LMAO

i mean he shouldnt have a problem with her considering his bum ahh would have been playing for burger boyz last year if it wasnt for her

seems possible. yay has had some drama before lol

https://x.com/madithx/status/1989508259775222213 apparently hes got beef with people... any guesses?

nah if they put leaf on breach for a single map in actual vct play i will become the biggest g2 hater itw

yeah the problem with keznit is that he (and the rest of kru) give you like 3/4 of a stage where they look like they may be one of the best teams in americas, but the rest of the year play like a 7-10th place team

Id be fine with jonah on kj or something but he doesnt seem like the type to run chamber. second one possible, but not sure you want to take trent off initiator after he was just possibly the best player itw until champs

nahhh reduxx is him

I kinda agree (i think it will be an ok niche pick) but it doesnt change the point that the double duelist+chamber comp is the only comp G2 couldnt run with their old roster, so surely that is their meta read if they are dropping jonah

He put up a 1.5 KD in an event where optic lost 11/23 maps played (champs 22)

C9 finishing somewhere around 6-10 is inevitable, but despite my hatewatching g2 will still be top 4 americas. But im really sus on their metaread. If they are picking up babybay for jonah that tells me they want to run yoru+waylay+chamber/veto, or yoru+chamber+veto with scan and one smoker. Otherwise your previous roster works just fine with yoru+chamber+viper or yoru+waylay+viper (assuming is willing to play waylay)

Jaw would have carried g2 to a trophy if leaf didnt give everyone a good reminder that he played for c9 for 3 yrs. (On a more serious note no duelist in this g2 team will ever put up huge numbers its how they play the game)

ik jonahp grinning ear to ear rn

I mean yoru is still the best duelist in the game

Jonah carried this bum team you will realize in time