Masters 2 finalist all no CIS players, Masters 3 semifinalist without CIS players, Champions winner without CIS + Semifinalist without CIS + Quarterfinalist without CIS ?????? and g2 without CIS players still has a chance to win this Masters, even without CIS players Europe is still the most succesfull region, how does your argument make sense?

thats obvious lol, Russia is the most populous european country + fps games are huge there but still really good, Fnatic/Liquid/Acend have no CIS players are they were the 3 best at Champions (sorry KRU that was the biggest fluke ever), its like saying NA has a lower skill ceiling without Canada, like thats obvious

not true, 80% of russia population is from Europe + native european people, the fact they have so much land in asia is just imperialism, thats like saying Spain/Britiain were American back in 1500-1600, makes no sense

the difference with Russia is that turks are native to Asia, they are not a native european people unlike russians, thats why probably will never be considered european, very different culturaly/values too

thats simply not true, more than 80% of russians live in european russia and russian are slavic who are native europeans, they are not asians, this has never been a debate lol

I hope G2 wins today but after watching this masters and specially liquid and g2 these past days it seems like we cant just hit a shot, they are running us down and simply getting aim diffed somehow, also looks like no desire to win from some teams idk, I think g2 can still win the event but their individuals have to wake the fuck up, get this win today against prx and then they have some days to rest and try to take it home, either way idc anymore if they win or not I just hope gambit fpx can make it to masters 2 + new acend is as strong as it looks

Your EMEA superteam makes 0 sense lmao, also you easily make 3-4 superteams that could win international lans, there is way too many good players compared to other regions

the guy is born in Finland, has played in Finnish teams since the start of his career in CSGO, he is a finnish product, by your logic vietnam and france carried Sentinels just because that is Tenz ancestry lol

Also I think Gambit would be heavy favourites, they looked better than FPX to me honestly, they kinda trolled their groups match against FPX too which would have given them an easy matchup against Liquid to qualify for masters, FPX had some close matches too in groups stage while Gambit was literally destroying every1

because in cs european teams get all the spots basically, in valorant only 3 teams qualify from the best region which is mad, also wtf is this 12 teams tournament???? also 16 teams only champions??? we are just missing on the opportunity of seeing teams who could do great but maybe got unlucky and didnt qualify, like gambit for masters 2021 in iceland, im sure they would have done better than both liquid and fnatic probably, I dont agree with saying they need to qualify first, its just so hard specially considering how competitive EMEA is, you have a bad day like gambit against g2 and you can lose to anybody, its so unfair for players that they have only 1 chance to qualify for an international event every 3 months and there is only 3 international LANS a year, we will never really see who is the best valorant team with this format just who performed better at the right time.
IMO if we want a more competitive scene and higher level of teams we should have less regions and obviously a 24 slot tournament or a playin phase like challengers stage in csgo, for me the regions should be:

• Europe: open qualifiers where all EU, CIS and Turkey playing in the same qualifier like CS where they united CIS+EU, its a stupid division imo since there is no ping problems or anything they just do it for viewership, expected from riot tho
• Americas: Half the teams qualify from NA and the other half from Latam(keeping the LAN/LAS division for ping reasons) and giving Brazil its own qualifiers instead of having a unified LATAM qualifier so it should be like 50% NA, 25% Brazil and 25% LATAM teams for the event that qualifies you to international LANS
• Asia: APAC North/APAC South + Australia + China, Asia is a hard one because of ping something like this could work imo, all those subregions have qualifiers for a big Asia LAN Challengers event that qualifies to Masters
• MENA: Idk why there is this little interest in developing this region of the world, insane potential, a lot of resources + big potential playerbase that speaks the same language, could be the best region itw if its helped to develop
• South Africa: This one is unreaslistic af probably but there is a good csgo community there so you could give them a slot or something just to at least have some subsaharan african representatives lol

Obviously this is extremely unrealistic because Riot only cares about making esports more regional to secure viewership instead of high quality gameplay which is what a sport should look at but you can expect that from american companies imo, they are more about the spectacle and not the sport, so yeah you cant really say they need to qualify to be considered some of the best players when this format is this unfair tbh

You can still say they are some of the best itw even if they didnt qualify lol, team performance doesnt matter when talking about individuals, thats like saying s1mple wasnt the best player itw when NaVi didnt win shit and Device was the best just because his team was doing better, only thing about talking who the best players are should be impact/individual performance, also eye test lmao, if you can watch nats, chronicle, zeek, cned or this type of players who are proven at international stage too play you can tell they are some of the most individually skilled players itw

carried by CIS, lmao, CIS has insane players but carried is an overstatement considering both Acend who won the first valorant world championship has no CIS players and Liquid who hasnt CIS players either also made Semifinals of the first world championship

ty for using your brain, its so annoying seeing all this bullshit threads thinking this is the best EMEA can offer, they win once against a wounded EMEA and think we are just not good anymore, motherfuckers the best players itw are not even here, where are Derke, Chronicle, Cned, Nats, zeek, Shao, ardiis, etc... not even here, instead we have Scream who plays like in beta and cant use his brain and h1ber who is insane but doesnt even have t1 experience lmao, only actual top EMEA player at the event are Jamppi, Nivera, hoody and nukkye, and only nukkye is a top5 EMEA player out of these

I mean, Europe has been dominating Dota lately, China fell off recently

Not sure about NA but EMEA was just unfortunate:
FPX: Best team in Europe probably cant attend the event
Gambit: Second best team in Europe even if G2 fluked them
Acend: Literally you gotta feel bad for the bad luck these guys have had man, also if zeek had played against bbl they would have won and G2 who are now in upper semis wouldnt even be here, they are coming back strong with vakk and idk the other guy they are signing, I think they are going to be the best together with Gambit and FPX in stage 2

Teams at Masters:
Fnatic: Boaster has a shitty system and they are missing their 2 best players, what would loud without aspas and sacy? nothing, so you cant expect more than what they did imo, pretty unfornutate for them
TL: 5th best team in EMEA at best, considering they are playing proper comps, if not, they are maybe even 7th, no IGL + bad coach, this was their last tournament as 5 as sliggy said, they are getting an igl finally so this was not a bad performance although it could have been better for a dead team who is barely top5 in EMEA
G2: The best behind FPX, Gambit and probably new Acend. 5 solid players and a system that works, great coach too, probably top4 EMEA. They are in upper semifinals although they got an easy first match against zeta, the real test will be today against loud, and considering liquid almost beat them and g2 easily beat zeta I think G2 should win this one, also way more experienced than loud, probably the best team in the tournament imo

How is EMEA overrated? How do you expect a continent that is suffering so much shit lately to perform at their best? Simply not mentally there and russian players not being able to attend events because they cant get visas doesnt help, now imagine Gambit, FPX and Acend were here, maybe even Guild with more time, dont know if russian players will be able to attend masters 2 but if they do and Gambit, FPX and Acend make it, you will see if EMEA is overrated or not m8

not really, I think what I am talking about, at least more than these guys, they are just saying random shit with their take of the day and see if their gamble is correct

100% brother

I get their intentions but I think it isnt the way forward, you dont fix wrong with more wrongs, in europe we learned it the hard way thats why most people are very moderate both left and right, even tho its changing atm because ppl are upset about inmigration and becoming more radical but even then its understandable wokeness is that popular in your country, its corrupt to the ground so its hard to change being moderate but still pisses me off

lmao

Sorry but internet people/american internet culture make my blood boil, and since valorant is very american dominated unlike cs which is heavily european dominated, most valorant personalities are american wokes which I hate, thank god no wokes in europe and cs, I was thinking of stopping watching valorant twitter/vlr because of this kind of community

just explaining why I believe valorant community is like this, bandwagoners, the other day I said that even if zeta won they fucking suck which is true and got people who dont know anything about the game telling me they did good, thats an example of what I am saying, they have 0 knowledge yet speak so confidently about things its baffling lmao, probably most of them were hard stuck plats at best

guard coach said himself they are not that deep strategically, they focused mainly in playing a shit ton together for chemistry/fundamentals, v1 had a lot of strategic depth at the start of the season, hopefully guard have cooked something for masters, similar to gambit, two best teams in terms of chemistry/fundamentals doesnt matter if their strats get figured out, they will put up a fight always

100T fans are cancer but I hope they give this roster time regardless of the community backlash if they dont perform well inmediality

Wow, Optic is a good bet ngl

this is not as common in csgo as in valorant tho, probably because csgo attracts older people based people and valorant they/them idiots who live in their fantasy world, same in league and overwatch, cancer communities

What did you expect? Its the internet, every retard is allowed to voice their opinion and they say it so confidently with little to no knowledge, the average human is not very smart so expected, also esports fans/twitter users etc are living in their own bubble most of the time and are deluded af

I am not a 100T fan but this team makes sense, Guard v2 incoming even if they dont suceed inmediately

he is a csgo fan so understandable, he used to be very into csgo but now he has become so famous that he covers every little stupid thing, dont even know how he is famous, cancer guy

such a stupid rule to have them quaratine for 5 days, its almost mid 2022, this measure would only make sense more than a year ago, they are running a studio lan with no crowd why would you need to quarantine, if you test positive while in the event then quarantine also derke just recovered from covid he cant get it again afaik so why not make an expection

not america bro, no federal laws in iceland lol also no, he is vaccinated most likely and you dont need to do mandatory quaratine in any european countries anymore

not really, Gambit probably better than them and Fnatic if they have full roster, probably acend too, g2 shouldnt even have been in emea playoffs, they qualified because zeek didnt play last match against bbl and acend lost that which they would have never lost if they had zeek, you g2 fans should stop thinking you are that good when only reason you are here is because of zeek, you should go thank him honestly

same, best team itw probably, all insane and smart individuals, best team fundamentally + they commit little mistakes which is something very rare in valorant honestly

I know but the two teams left are weird af, they are both either the best itw or play like bots, g2 could win it all but I need them to beat Loud first, if they cant beat Loud sorry but EMEA cant win this, no fucking way, if they cant beat a team with so little experience in these type of tournaments and who looked very beatable against Liquid (Liquid motherfuckers threw some rounds that not even my ranked teammates would) no fucking way

probably but they are not realiable, they can beat any1 and lose to any1, incredible aimers but only nivera and jamppi are smart/have tier1 gamesense and decision making, cant expect more from uk cs and scream

dont worry, even if Gold2 and TeamL dont win, we still got FPX, Gambit, new Acend, Fnatic with full roster and Guild grinding back at their homes while these fluke runs teams waste their time while others actual competent teams are grinding so they dont dissappoints us like these guys! EMEA only final in Masters 2 save this post

probably, they just dont have very inteligent players apart from jamppi and nivera + no igl, their coach said that they are trying link as igl and if it doesnt work out they will change things

they didnt qualify cuz of a 0.02s round and well they wouldnt have been able to go to Iceland either way but if you replay Challenger playoffs 10 times, 9 times Gambit will qualify, this was just the 1 unlucky time they didnt

agree, a literal war had to happen for other regions to have a chance, unlucky times for europe :8

https://www.vlr.gg/85526/loud-vs-team-liquid-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-ubqf/?game=all&tab=overview
Look at first kills first deaths, damm, well played liquid, truly

FPX/Gambit and Fnatic if they have their full roster, G2 are good but its hard to tell how good they are atm because they looked so shit at the start and then somehow beat Gambit and now they look really good, Liquid is solid team but they need roster changes if they want to be the best

been like this since cs, when the game becomes more complex his brain cant handle it

congrats you barely beat liquid, not an achivement

lol 5v3 after scream get 2 sherriff kills? that was unlosable, this last round too, they are playing like bots

why doesnt he ult man also why does scream peek sacy with such little time left instead of trying to bait him so jamppi isolates saadhak on spike

hahahaha what are liquid doing, throwing rounds like idiots

insane roster, roles make sense + young so they are not veterans like hiko and ethan who wont listen to sean

I think his jett was bad but he improved it recently, the main problem for me was him trying to IGL, he is a type or person that focuses a lot on his gameplay so his performance suffers a lot if he has to igl

dont think its because of the role m8, he is just bad mechanically compared to other t1 pros

Can you really count all of EMEA tho? Middle east players are irrelevant in EMEA, its basically Western Europe and Russia also some turkish players which would be a population of 745 millions more or less, the difference isnt that much compared to APAC/NA or even Brazil also European teams dont have the advantage of speaking the same language so your argument is kinda flawed

no, I think sayf should not play duelist, he doesnt seem like a natural duelist, players as smart as him are more valuable in the late round, just my opinion obviously