My advice to people like you would be to go and practice, and then scrim using everything you have learned in practice, calling starts and managing your team as you play. You will understand why IGLs consistently bottom frag, and why it doesn't really matter all that much.

Of all performances to call out bonecold you picked this series? Are you watching the same games as me? The man has been playing exceptionally well. Terrible thread.

Brimstone has always been good. I could never understand why NA players disliked him so much. He's boring to play, for sure, but on certain maps he's actually very useful.

Underrated? What on earth are you talking about, lol? He is highly regarded as the best Skye in Europe, and he plays for one of the best teams in Europe. In what way is he underrated outside of trolls and fanboys of other teams hurling the usual abuse?

Bro, DOTA is not comparable to Valorant, that's ridiculous. You're talking about one of the most popular esports of all time, which has been around for 10 years and has an absolutely massive install base in China. Really silly to even bring up MOBAs.

Considering all the schedule changes and the time zone issues, I think this is actually a win for the esport. You also cannot compare a crowdless LAN where half the players are in hotel rooms to a CSGO major, lol.

And here was me thinking Fish123 started it.

Dude, the rules say dont do it. Player breaks rule = Punishment. Very simple. Riot not fixing the bug is completely and utterly irrelevant.

This is a very bad performance from TL, honestly. I think this is the worst they have played since Nivera joined, and it's sad to see.

When will people like you understand that the fact lots of views come from watch parties literally makes zero difference? Riot doesn't care. Sponsors don't care. You should not care.

Imagine if people said Ronaldo was cringe for celebrating a goal versus Reading. Nobody would. Because it is fucking dumb.

Tier 1 is a class of team, not a tournament.

Do you know how expensive legal battles are? Large reason why many victims have to avoid, sadly. Not to mention, what is this concept of "isn't enough for a court of law it isn't enough to ruin someone's career?" That is kinda narrow-minded and quite silly, tbh. Do you know how many clever lawyers have had cases thrown out of court on technicalities when the victim's case was obviously very legit?

It isn't, tho?

why do you care which game is "dominant?"

Clubs do not make transfers based on prize money, tho. Small clubs, maybe, but a team like Man City doesnt rule out 5 transfers at the end of the season because they didnt win the Champion's League, or even quality for it. Money comes from sponsorship, ticket sales, merchandise, and other revenue streams, similar to how in esports most orgs earn through content creation and sponsorship.

They didn't really choke, though. What people fail to understand is that V1 and Fnatic were masters of abusing that particular meta -- the KJ, Astra, Viper meta. Liquid was a step behind that, and actually right after iceland the meta died anyway somewhat...

Yes, Liquid should have beaten V1 anyway, but honestly it was just as much because they didn't really play a meta comp that truly destroyed them.

Anyway, that was back when Jamppi was feeding his opponents and they didn't have Nivera.

Simple is certainly not a goat when it comes to Val, lol. It's like watching a smurf play the game -- he just rushes in, dies, then gets frustrated because he thinks he should be doing better :P

He's not judging him, he's counter arguing his own opinion. Welcome to a discussion, which is what we do here on a forum. Lmk if you need anything else explained to you.

That's entirely subjective and not a measurement anybody can actually use for anything constructive. YOU get a feeling, I don't. Btw, Valorant has not even had a proper LAN yet.

welcome to vlr

god, you're an idiot.

New map, playing with strats, not an important tournament, they will still make playoff. Chill.

Er, too bad? Grow up? You can't handle an analyst critiquing your gameplay then you need to check yourself. Imagine a professional soccer athlete throwing a temper tantrum because a commentator said he made a bad pass or defended poorly. Come on...

Mechanics aren't everything. Lots of Diamond games have excellent aimers who are utterly clueless when it comes to teamwork or just don't give a fuck. I have lost countless games because Jetts and Reynas who have great aim cbf playing with the team or have terrible mental and tilt after 3 rounds lost.

If you are getting destroyed on your Plat smurf that is a bit concerning, but maybe you aren't trying as hard? I find that I will get beaten even playing on my Plat smurf if I don't take the game seriously.

That's a common opinion to hold, but not necessarily true in the case of SMB. Scrimbux ahead if stage 3 from Sharks (BR team who were bootcomping in EU) and other pro players who were at bootcamp during that period started that SMB were extremely tactical and disciplined. They were said to be 'on another level,' if I remember correctly.

They just lost their confidence and composure following a dreadful LAN performance, it seems.

Yacine?! Lmfao. Dude, he's their best player by a mile. On one map he had all 12 of Guild's first bloods. They literally lose any round where he does not entry.

iron-silver*

nice flair, fair weather fan.

He is a very good rifler, lol. You shouldn't draw conclusions from watching a game here or there. I've watched every Liquid game in 2021, and Jamppi is very capable with a rifle and a Sheriff.

dominating? He's doing really well. Not sure he's 'dominating.'

any random decent csgo player can dominate at a top level of valorant LUL.... after having been playing Valorant for six months in immortal/radiant ranked games and scrimming and now playing with one of the best teams in EMEA, if not the world.

Yep. Good point, dumb dumb!

not even halfway through map 1, dude. chill.

Yes, but that doesn't do the job of explaining its origin, mate. It's completely unhelpful. It's also untrue. Not 'everyone' says diff and no cap -- people who are completely immersed in internet and Valorant culture, sure. But not 'everyone.'

tbf, you did just basically rewrite what he said and offered nothing valuable at all over than 'everyone says it,' which is total rubbish.

Here, I'll do the job for you:

NO cap - derived from rap culture. American saying.

diff - Valorant meme. Originally NA.

sheeesh - derived from rap culture. American saying.

ratio - children who have no lives say this

bro, you are seriously so fucking dumb to think that just because a team lost to another team who you consider not very good then they are automatically bad forever. So 1head it ain't funny.

First, Liquid didn't get 'smashed' by V1. It was close until they choked on Haven.
Second, V1 was, at the time, one of the best teams in the world at abusing the Viper/Astra/KJ meta. They had a ring-in... sure, but that ring-in has kinda proven better than their current lineup in hindsight.
Third, Liquid is way more experienced and has a different lineup now. So it isn't 'the same team.'
Fourth, any team can lose to any other pro team on an off day. Get your dumbass 1 head around that fact. It can always go either way.

If you're getting matched with players of a lower elo than you it is because your hidden RR is likely lower than your actual rank. Either that or the diamonds you are playing against have a very high hidden RR (maybe they haven't played so much this Act, etc). So actually, based on match wins and individual performances in those wins (elo), they are the same as you.

I'm not suggesting you don't have a better understanding of the game than them as you claim, but if you want to play against Immortals you need to improve your win rate. As much as it is convenient to just claim the game randomly matches you against lower elo players just because, it doesnt... that's copium.

Anyway, I agree with others here that if you ain't feeling, don't play. If you change your mind and wanna duo with a decent player, lmk :)

CIS and EU are the same, though, bro. The whole point of debating regions is about which region has the strongest players and teams. Dunno if you realized this but EU players and CIS players play together every day in ranked, and they scrim each other every week for practice. It's the same region... the only reason it is divided into EU, CIS, and TR is because it is such a large region with so many teams.

3 good games? What?

Link literally just said in the interview that their reads are poor and the worst part of their game. Both times they pushed the Astra ult it was a disaster waiting to happen. They were too slow, they allowed the rotations to occur, and they actually should have read it on both occasions because utility was being thrown from multiple agents. But whatever.

Oh, come on. There's multiple utility being thrown, mate. It has been obvious both times, and not just because we have the advantage of seeing both sides.

Yeah, I like the idea of having multiple people calling, but in practice I think it is always best to have a single voice leading.

Time and time again Liquid try to force into a site when it's incredibly obvious that the entire enemy team is posted up. That past round is the second time they've committed to taking a site with an Astra ult even though it was very easy to see that the whole of G2 was on the other side. They never seem prepared to just rotate and try something else. Concerning.

Liquid was always in control of Ascent, not sure what you were watching. The first half of the Bind game was extremely unlucky for Liquid.

I mean, it's ok... Liquid stomped first map, and then the second map they just got unlucky/whiffed and G2 won.

I really hate this bind composition they're trying. It makes no sense. Get soulcas back on Skye.

Why does that matter when it's an OP, though?

Strange take. He's absolutely brilliant with an op. Was this your first time watching him?

2-1 TL

not to mention that SEN was extremely luck to not drop a map if we're being honest with ourselves. Fnatic could have easily won several maps, if not the series.