I think both teams are underrated, but I think T1 is closer to finding their stride than 100T, so I think it’s gonna be close but T1 edges them out.

The flashiest/best aim? Shot Up. Most consistent and well rounded support player? crashies. Best IGL? Shaz. Best flex? SicK. Asuna is pretty flashy too but Shot Up has been more consistent. All I’m trying to say is that it’s hard to say who’s “best” because it’s pretty generic.

Criteria:
-Must use 10 teams or more (Rankings tab is useful)
-Must have 5-6 tiers
-Complete with your opinion and don't leave anyone out!
-Honorable mentions from other teams are OK

My personal tier list:
Tier 1: TenZ, SicK, Asuna, nitr0, Ethan, crashies, leaf, Shot Up, ShahZaM, corey, babybay, ANDROID, Shawn
Tier 2: aproto, dapr, Victor, mummAy, Wardell, Marved, gMd, Victor, FNS, thief, jcStani, tex, s0m
Tier 3: Drone, Subroza, HUYNH , Mkael, koosta, kaboose, steller, moose, YaBoiDre, Kehmicals, eeiu
Tier 4: poiz, xeta, zombs, Rawkus, Genghsta
Tier 5: mitch, Relyks, NaturE, daps, Hiko, hazed, retluC, ZachaREEE

Notes:
-Since I only wanted 10 teams, I included NRG instead of ABX or XSET or T1 cuz they're probably better right now and it's more interesting
-First draft, easily liable to change, so feel free to yell at me

Player list I used (if it's useful):
SicK, TenZ, ShahZaM, dapr, zombs, corey, BABYBAY, Rawkus, ZachaREEE, Marved, Victor, kaboose, crashies, FNS, mummAy, Shawn, HUYNH, MkaeL, koosta, gMd, Drone, Wardell, hazed, retluC, Subroza, Asuna, nitr0, Hiko, steel, Ethan, leaf, poiz, xeta, mitch, Relyks, thief, YaBoiDre, moose, aproto, stellar, Shot Up, Kehmicals, Genghsta, NaturE, jcStani, ANDROID, tex, eeiu, daps, s0m

Understandable, but not relatable.

What I want:
SEN, NRG, NV, LG, V1, TSM, C9B, 100T
What I think:
SEN, NRG, NV, LG, FaZe, IMT, GENG, T1
Potential upset picks:
V1, T1, C9B
Other notes:
I hate these kinds of formats where it's single elimination. V1, Soniqs, C9B, T1, XSET, TSM and others are probably not going to make the tournament because of things like seeding. IDK how they should do it, but there should be like a second-chance sort of event for the non-top-4 teams. Teams like SEN, NV, FaZe, GenG would qualify and then we could actually see some more interesting matches between the teams I mentioned above and others like IMT, ABX, etc.

They aint even gonna get past eunited why do you think they are gonna beat Envy

When did I say he wasn’t the lurker? You SEN fans have your heads up your asses lol

Aceu isn't pro in either of those games afaik so he should be removed from the list. As for Bugha, I played comp against that dude when I was playing with my friends in a 5 stack in smurf-low and he went like 8/20 so maybe he's improved but still far to go. Other three I guess I agree with. sinatraa definitely top of the list.

You just can't not include cNed and mwzera but include asuna

Not even close to those two though. Only good series he’s played was in finals against faze. There are many players that are more strategical with better aim.

How u gonna put dapr with chiwawa and dimasick

Leaf Phoenix, xeta Sova, poiz Jett and Relyks Omen, yes please!!!

Again, changes take time. They'd pretty much have to do the same thing they did for Masters 1 and even though they might be slowly improving, I doubt it will be enough. Maybe masters 3.

How can you say they're even close to the level of any of the top 4 right now. And with NRG becoming a powerhouse too? TSM might reform with brax? Who knows where 100T fits in all of that. They're not top 4 right now. Very low chance they will be top 2 when it comes to masters 2. Especially since SEN is basically a shoe-in to the event right now. Did you even watch Masters 1? Even against teams like IMT and T1 they barely won.

You can wait for that matchup tho, I can guarantee both of those teams aren't making it to masters in iceland. Maybe 3rd masters (Which is I'm guessing sometime in July/August?)

Maybe

You missed the joke. Did you see him double satchel a killjoy ult on Ascent? Forgot against who but I'll try to find a clip. Guy literally throws two satchels from lane to main.

poiz???

You think those teams are gonna make it over the top EU dogs?

I like the swap, Brax is a great sentinel player and someone they need, but I think it still doesn’t fix the IGL issue

Go learn raze satchel lineups like Asuna. That’s what you need to learn first. It’s obviously the most important.

It’s because vision strikers isn’t actually that good. All brain no aim, if you will. They have a high tier of strategy, maybe even the best in the world, but when they don’t get a chance to set up, or rounds fall apart mid game, they struggle to adapt and win disorganized 1v1s. That’s why a team like SEN or FaZe would absolutely demolish them but they could be closer against 100T for example.

1. Site anchor isn’t a specific person’s job. When your team calls for rotates, someone who is at the site stays behind. Maybe half the time, they actually come back to the site. And most of the time, by that time, you already have someone with you, or it’s just one person trying to lurk for picks and it’s a 1v1. There should never be a time in pro play where there is one dude against 5 people unless your team really messed up. zombs may be good at playing with his team, but that’s again a chemistry thing. zombs himself is not a good player, he is just synchronized with his team from all the time they have played together.
2. IGLs make a playbook where there are certain flash locations, so yeah, they pretty much do micromanage, especially the omen because the omens flash plays a critical role in offense, same for breach. Also the IGL might not want specific smoke locations depending on the hit, so they’ll tell you that too. So yeah, on the organized plays you are definitely micromanaged.
3. Yes, stats aren’t important, if you’re doing your job you’re doing the right thing. But what I’m suggesting is that all these players do a good job on their role AND can consistent hold up higher frag numbers. Omen is actually a lot about fragging than most people think, too. Your abilities are pretty cookie-cutter when you’re running plays and countering on defense or playing for retake. It’s about if you can get your kill after you use that util too, not just your team following up.

Also, do you think all the players I mentioned would be good if they couldn’t use Omen abilities as a support? All you have to do is follow what you IGL says, like when to blind and where to smoke. Hell, I could use Omens abilities perfectly because they’re not that complicated and don’t have a high skill ceiling.

Anyone and everyone can site anchor. Are you saying he’s good at killing one or two people when like 5 come to his site alone? Helps when you have an omen blind. But anyone can site anchor and they can all do it equally well because it’s not that challenging of a task!

You think way too highly of site anchoring. Who even keeps track of it. The players who are the best at anchoring are the ones who have the best game sense and positioning. They will as such probably have the least deaths on the team. So maybe look for that stat instead?

Gamelanders, FURIA, VKS, Faze, Envy, Heretics, FPX, Acend are all teams closer to SEN than Vision Strikers.

Vision strikers is maybe 9th 10th or worse team in the world. They may be dominant in Korea but they thrive off of set pieces. They’re not that dominant in terms of aim, just strategy. A team like faze or sentinels with planned aggression would rip them to shreds before they could even get set up.

If those two teams face it’ll be a stomp, maybe 13-2 for SEN. SEN vs Heretics or FPX would be closer imo.

Someone who is forming their own opinion before taking a side. Crazy!

Let me list, just a few, Omen players that do that job and also can frag, just to prove a point.

Ethan, nitr0, s0m, Subroza, jcStani, mummAy, Marved, Leaf, YaBoiDre. gMd. Even kaboose, stellar, and WeDid could probably out-do him. Those are JUST NA. And I probably forgot some too.'

Edit: I'm by no means saying zombs needs to be replaced, I'm sure they function better as a team with him than they would with any of these other players. But if someone else had been there from the start to form the bonds they have now, they could be even better.

I like heavily disagree with your list on omen. Leaf, s0m, and Subroza are all good, but no jcStani? Even mummAy and Marved are putting up some better numbers and Omen's only half their agent pools in pro.
Edit: just saw your comment on not putting too much thought into the list my bad

Depends on what meta you like better. 2 duelists or 1 or none. Cuz I would put cNed over scream any day.

It ticks faster/slower

Just memorizing timing

The average valorant player would be gold 2 Joey over here who doesn't know or care about anything other than ranked. However, I see your point, nitr0 is the base for salaries so even if orgs aren't willing to pay that much, star players will want that much.

Where is your verified check mark, why isn't VLR giving it to you

I mean all sports have one dominant team at some point. They're gonna be derailed eventually by the other korean teams, and definitely won't sweep against some of the powerhouses from other regions.

As much as I want to disagree with you, there's definitely a strong argument in there.

good list

I like Spyder, and I think he's great, but he's literally nowhere close to babybay, TenZ, even Wardell

Diamond 1

KJ, Cypher, Omen, Sova

650 DPI, 0.6 sens

Yes I know 650 is weird, but it works for me so heck

Didn't know that!

I agree. You can teach yourself certain things, but other things just come with time. Like in higher elos, in 1v1s, instead of playing with their ults, Sovas have started to just play weird angles because the playerbase will always expect them to go for the common ult spots offsite. Just small things like that. You'd be surprised how many people have good/decent aim in lower elos and are stuck because they can't tell heads from tails.

Truer words

Dude. He's not even an IGL. Super cold take. Almost like you're saying something controversial for attention :o

True, but mostly he's piggybacking off of teammates. He doesn't have a lot of standout games, even though he can.

Nothing's happening until there's like 30+ agents. Even then they might not do it. Wait like 3 years then come back.

But is cNed the best in the world? Even TenZ doesn't put up stats like those every game. He's consistently good and even though his team might not be the best, they get it done. Acend deserved that win.

No FNS? Aproto? koosta?