and you're from NA so you're biased to yay and the Optic core GTFO with that hypocrisy

basketball is absolutely nothing like valorant, maybe if you compared it to something that relied more on team synergy like volleyball or soccer you would have a point. The ability a player has to carry a game in basketball is infinitely more than that of valorant because of the opportunities you have 1v1 to win opportunities for your team.

Does that help your small brain NA fan?

teams were not better in 2022 and that is an absolute fact

talent got so much more concentrated this year across all regions it's nearly unfathomable

what part of "carrying" means your stats get boosted, that is an awful argument 💀

if anything your stats would go down if your team is trash, it means more shitty buys, lack of util from cash or bad coordination, more 1vX situations, bad trading and enemies that aren't lit up you literally just proved your own case wrong

anybody say that Riot didn't give permission??? it's cause no big event really has the revenue to host a full scale valorant tourney yet without a bunch of gambling sponsors

then why are people shitting on riot for not installing a third party event 😭

that's literally the definition of 3rd party

you realise that if events in the season are more spaced out, resulting in a shorter season which a lot of people want, the revenue that orgs are going to receive is not going to be better right

the vast majority of the revenue they get is from the teams actually competing, if they compete in the same amount of matches or whatever over a long period instead of a shorter one the revenue they get is basically the same

you're going to be burning money to keep the rosters fielded either way

what's a better incentive that you reckon should be provided for winning ascension

u mean pre-franchising?

an esports league is not sustainable without having at least some partner teams work with the organisations running the tournaments, obviously Riot was going to employ it cause of how much more streamlined the system is

don't act like teams weren't falling apart in the old system either

no shit you're going to see the best teams play each other more towards the late stages of tournaments what does that have to do with the T2 scene

not a Leo apologist here, but wtf do you suggest to be a better option

the old ascension system was even worse wtf kinda bait is that

what possibly could be an alternative

if orgs aren't able to monetise their processes then maybe they shouldn't enter into the industry
Riot has already been pretty good at responding to the major qualms T2 players/teams have had about the short season times wrecking their revenue base in the offseason

Istanbul was at 2am and 3am for Asia... stop complaining at least you are physically able to get up early instead of having to literally stay up the whole night

also, clearly they would shift back the game times an hour if it was Sydney so it would lie at the same time as Tokyo

that's a damn good dream

but MAN that is a dream nonetheless

sadly, The Union is still going to have absolutely no-one want the players on their team and probably win :(

still probably a fan favourite if we do a bit of soul searching and bandwagon introspection

Version1?????

wakey wakey time to get up for school homie 😭😭😭

everything else is very fair

nah bro I don't even like Demon1 that much and this shit might become my wallpaper

why so mad

tbf, his acting repertoire is so crazy that he would be an amazing flex

but on the other hand he's shown he's damn good at getting kills LOL

Singapore PLEASE

PRX need the homecrowd advantage for next time

tbf living there isn't too crazy

the fact they have internet is what I'm surprised about

nah that's amazing to see

I get pretty worried sometimes about a lot of T2 players or super young semi-pros trying to grind ranked 24/7 and neglecting their studies- people really forget sometimes just how short careers can be in the esports scene and how there really is a lack of a follow up job with the skills/experience they get other than working for companies like Riot/coaching staff or analysts etc.

glad to see he's setting a really good example for future pros

yeah if we're being honest here, tenz MADE the valorant esports scene in NA

call me a bandwagon or whatever but he was the guy that first got me hooked on val pro play when I used to watch CS

Christian Bale would be an instalock reyna

all been there for quite a few more international lans and playoffs stages

keznit has been one of the goats of SA

scream is probably from the CS nostalgia

not yet, but he will retire a top 10 player ever

eh... by info init u mean sova right, cause both skye and kayo have info gathering abilities, skye especially

most teams run double controller now anyways, also s0m used to play a lot of duelist so he can play that sort of f0rsaken role with harbour, jett, etc. on the team and b0aster did a decent amount of initiator last year before Leo came in

Ethan right? or Chronicle?

nah nah you're probably 100% right

it's a shame that most of the coaches, unless they're like SUPER big personalities like mini or alecks don't really get that much love or attention

u can have that conversation fs, again the coach stuff is basically ranked on team success mainly cause of how hard it is to identify coaching impact in games

tbf, it's hard to quantify impact in games on what's the coaches vs what's the IGL's

also, probably a bit of recency bias considering the massive success of PRX and EG

yeah the teams actually worked out pretty well, voted upon by you guys after all

https://www.vlr.gg/266940/all-vct-team-voting/

sadly, yay was not playing T1 so I was unable to accept the votes from the numerous optic fanboys

yeah nw, the results are up https://www.vlr.gg/268288/all-vct-teams-2023

As voted upon by vlr.gg

All-VCT 1st Team
Aspas
Leo
Mako
F0rsaken
Alfajer
Coach: Potter

All-VCT 2nd Team
Demon1
Ethan
Mindfreak
Chronicle
Boostio
Coach: alecks

All-VCT 3rd Team
Jinggg
d4v4i
s0m
Less
Boaster
Coach: mini

HM: saadhak, FNS, jawgemo, Derke, crashies, cauanzin, c0m, tuyz, victor, Chet

https://www.vlr.gg/266940/all-vct-team-voting/

literally same as Masters Tokyo little bro learn some geography

Demon1 gotta be on there somewhere right

best player on the world's best team

wow Smoggy is a really cool pick

sure no worries

I'm only going to put 5 players in each team though so only one of sentinel/igl is going to make it

get someone from Scarz highkey

Jemkin would fit the bill pretty well

you're not wrong

I bet

gotcha fair enough

ty

oh ok, apologies yeah I thought you mean for the list criteria from the outset

d4v4i meant to be IGLing right?

I guess, but a team without a IGL is ridiculous, a team without a sentinel is doable

also, the obvious answer is Alfa, and then a whole bunch of nobody

coach?

coach?

I'd prefer for you to choose either one sentinel or IGL cause they often encompass the same roles and its a team of 5, but that's fine ty