What --------->>> ? ------------>>> What are you on about?
Do you actually see mwzera in those tables... NO, because THOSE are the tables for the teams!
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What --------->>> ? ------------>>> What are you on about?
Do you actually see mwzera in those tables... NO, because THOSE are the tables for the teams!
NO, because they or any of the pro-players, for that matter, have their own will to do what ever F they want to do... at any times. We were initially supposed to evaluate them purely on their game performance, leaving personal decisions to them to decide.... But very and very UNFORTUNATE, this is not the case here.
Unluchcko:
Team RD RT ACS ADR KAST K:D KPR
1. DFM 37 0.69 166.33 107.45 60.00% 0.71 0.56
2. PRX 38 0.76 176.20 123.20 69.40% 0.70 0.58
3. SEN 39 0.76 160.70 108.58 65.80% 0.73 0.56
4. T1 20 0.77 178.20 115.32 67.00% 0.75 0.60
5. KRÜ 41 0.77 153.60 104.90 63.40% 0.65 0.5217-32 teams ranked from top to bottom based on rough HS%_avg - a fair indicator of AIM capability:
Team HS%
17. VIT 25.60%
18. KOI 25.6%*
19. TL 25.6%*
20. EDG 25.4%*
21. TLN 25.00%
22. LOUD 24.00%
23. FUT 23.40%
24. FNC 23.20%
25. LEV 23.00%
26. TS 23.0%*
27. Cloud9 21.6%*
28. PRX 21.6%*
29. NRG 21.60%
30. GES 21.4%*
31. GEN 20.2%*
32. EG 17.2%*(*) - Played fewer than 100 rounds in the tournament (Data may possibly be skewed.)
1-16 teams, ranked from top to bottom based on rough HS%_avg - a fair indicator of AIM capability:
Team HS%
1. KC 33.40%
2. NAVI 33.00%
3. DFM 33.0%*
4. MIBR 29.2%*
5. SEN 28.8%*
6. GIA 28.6%*
7. FUR 28.6%*
8. T1 28.6%*
9. BBL 28.4%*
10. ZETA 28.2%*
11. RRQ 28.2%*
12. TH 27.8%*
13. FPX 27.6%*
14. 100T 26.40%
15. KRÜ 26.4%*
16. DRX 26.00%(*) - Played fewer than 100 rounds in the tournament (Data may possibly be skewed.)
Word count of reply #42: 555 words.
I'll break it down for you below, so stick with me:
"All players that you listed plays way better than Depph my brother. I'm saying that he is old and can't do IGL, can't AIM"
Forgive me for disagreeing with you, as I beleive your statement to be entirely your uninformed opinion (with all due respect) on the topic to which you've been committed… However, if we were to look at it realistically, we would discover a great deal of contradiction in your statement. What it looks to me, you clearly have not compared his performance to those guys, instead basing your opinion on your emotional reaction to watching his games live. This is not entirely wrong or a bad approach, but it is insufficient in its core for such а strong statement!
"Depph has no growth potential at all anymore; where does he fit? Nowhere?"
In the case of Depph, the initial goal, I beleive, was to adapt previously capable players/coach from another team - XSET to allow them to construct suitable disciplinal framework in SEN, because prior players/stuff were out of touch with structural framework. This sort of foundation is required in any organisation to enable the type of GROWTH (that you propose) for present players as well as emerging prospects. SEN require a functional framework in place, and XSET has demonstrated competence in such matters in the past, when they effectively constructed the roster from the ground up to become the top NA contender - they were on the F-ing rise back then!
"Even Jessie is way better AIM than Depph, Depph was never good at AIM and never good at IGL too he is just being pay check stealer now. He doesn't have any positive point to stay in SEN in this moment."
It's not just a matter of AIM, but also of IGL skills, and Dephh had demonstrated excellent IGL skills in the past. In general, I disagree with your AIM remark because Dephh scored HS 28% amongst the best of aimers (see below list) during previous Champions 2022 in Istanbul. It's up to you whether you agree or disagree, but HS% is the only indicator in the game that suggests the most efficient outcome for the player during duels - the faster the enemy falls, the better chances you have to store your health and the health of your teammates, hence HS% is one of the most crucial indicators, also to assess one's aim capability.
Positive points are also subjective since, despite the fact that we are all BALLS DEEP in the current drama, we have no f-ing realistic picture of the situation - only simply he said, she said.
Head Shot % From Valorant Champions 2022 in Istanbul:
Shao;30% f0rsakeN;30% ScreaM;29% Mazino;29% Marved;29% dephh;28% Zyppan;27%
T-lilla;27% keznit;27% Mazin;27% yay;26% crashies;26% crashies;26% BuZz;26%
Melser;26% Victor;25% Sacy;25% Less;25% Alfajer;25% Shyy;25% aspas;24%
Cryo;24% zekken;24% kiNgg;23% Asuna;22% Klaus;22% sScary;22% FNS;21%
saadhak;21% ardiis;21% Sushiboys;21%To wrap it up, direct age discrimination, as I see it extremely often on here, leads to very unpleasant harassment, which is inherently unacceptable, whether in Valorant or any organization. Therefore, please, stop believing nonsense and start thinking with your head!
^^^ I've already filtered "Min 100 Rounds" for you... By following that link above, all you have to do is click on the R (RATING) column and sort it from Z-A, or HIGH to LOW down.
And this is the reason why I said "no brainer";) Good day!
PS. I am also surprised to see Shin as high up in the chart; but I honestly don't see any contradictions in any of his columns. He had done exceptionally well and deserved to be recognised.
No Brainer:
A typical day in the office ;)
BTW, why not include Subroza on your list? Didn't you know he's an excellent smoker main?
No, they are not... They are all equally (more or less) competent, but the skill gap is quite narrow, whilst many people still rate gMd higher - for deserved reasons...
Yet, for the purpose of sportsmanship, we may classify them as controllers who should be given the opportunity to develop on higher tier teams!
(0+7) + (1+8) + (2+9) + (5+17) = ;)
A little more pedantic than necessary since such problems can get far more complex than given above.
Team Name Agent R ACS ADR K D A +/– KAST FK FD
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LEV Shyy Killjoy 0.86 180 126 24 26 7 -2 74% 5 2
LEV kiNgg Kay0/Viper 0.68 189 133 22 35 12 -13 61% 5 6
LEV Mazino Omen/Brim 0.65 134 81 17 28 9 -11 58% 1 5
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NAVI ANGE1 Omen/Cypher 0.95 207 124 30 24 6 +6 71% 2 7pancada49: "...those braindead flanks ange1 did against KRU won't work against LEV."
Flanks or Not ---> ANGE1 OWNED LEV! Yet, no matter what they say, you're beautiful and bright - it's just not this time ;)
Name Agent R ACS ADR K D A +/– KAST FK FD
FNC Boaster Brim/Viper 1.1 187 110 24 24 18 0 81% 5 3
100T Bang Omen/Viper 0.55 131 89 18 30 7 -12 54% 2 2
Apologies for the below... I didn't mean to write a wall... it's just am venting out on this disgusting topic <3
There is a considerable difference between designating a certain player to play a role and then believing that this same player to be the best in this role across the whole region... the latter is referred to as OVERRATING which NA region is so good at. Good luck to 100T and Bang.... and please disregard comparing Bang to a superstar player such as Boaster - just wanted to make a point.
Nevertheless, any organisation that decides to abandon such a top-tier talent/player as MarveD is dubbed CLUELESS and BRAINDEAD... I don't care what anyone believes - <<insert here the name of anyone in the industry>> - I will prove them wrong. You don't even have to look too deep into the data to find MarveD's excellence in the role, not even scratching the f-ing surface - the fact has been known since long time. LET THE KID PLAY, god damn!
And surprise surpise.... YAY too found himself on the bench (which is literally a crime) - bunch of premature - aka "Imma choke you with my urgent goal projections" - noobs of a region, nothing else - in terms of ORGANISATIONAL efficiency and estimation of their talent pool. Who on F-ing earth would put YAY and Leaf on the same team??? <--- rhetorical question ofc. If you do so, then for love of a god, assign them accordingly! But no....
If anything, the whole region should be ashamed of how their orgs treat pro players! Though, respect to sgares on doing it the right way....
PS, don't believe I'm speaking from a place of hatred or jealousy... but of pure and factual truth and fairness to hardworking players!
MarveD...
Moreover, I disagree with the idea that Bang is the second greatest smoker in North America.
moatzART and his COPIUM symphonies
I think she's too DOM for the poor boi... and he'd need to file for a restraining order or the HUNTER becomes the HUNTED - fetish scenario is likely to occur at some point in time.
Jokes aside, at least nobody got hurt in the whole spin off, which typically is the case in such seemingly toxic relationships.
... the gf is having an affair with another dude, but SICK is fine with it though apparently ...H.O.L.Y F.C.U.C.K - I wish I hadn't read that detail.
Yet, appreciate your input, since I did my utter best to stay away from this drama for the sake of my sanity....
Well, jokes and trash talk aside, they are still a decently competitive region... IMO, establishing a dynasty today is pretty difficult to achieve and all that is expected of top region teams is to remain competitive, etc.
On the other hand, maintaining that competitive equilibrium is better for us spectators in terms of overall game interest... more competitiveness, fewer boring games <3
Following on my reply: #22
I would like to ask, if there any LAW or bordering - jurisprudence students or professionals in the forum who can explain the meaning of the terms DE FACTO/DE JURO to some "clever" kids on here, and how they may shape legislations in the real world, once and for all? It appears that WIKIPEDIA, which is completely insufficient as a source for any form of academic work, has grown prevalent in those completely deluded minds on which they claim to build their so called BASED arguments --> Nothing f-ing BASED here!
Like, Jeeeee ... will there be an end to all of this ... IJUSTcan't
"ex USSR countries are CIS": FALSE
"Ukraine is part of CIS": FALSE
Discussing the above quotes further down...
There's this @UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe person who also argues UA is not CIS... but there's a reasonable answer for those young and immature minds that can't even wipe their own ass, let alone discuss international affairs —> https://www.vlr.gg/post/1751458/navi
Ukraine is just another CIS country like any others... similar to Latvia, Lithuania, Georgia and Estonia ... PERIOD
So I have to f-ing wonder here... why on f-ing earth do we have to dig into international affairs without taking into account RIOT's own method of defining regions...
You just stated Furia's failure to make mid-round decisions and respond to their opponents' couner-plays... WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU DRAW THE VICTIM-BIASED CARD????
No pre-match trash talks ... no pathetic coping ... no premature deadbrainization ... no f-ing bs ---> JUST FACTS!
At the very least, could you maybe STFU already... LOL talking out of your ass like it's some kind of celebration.
HERE dumbo, especially for your slow brain and those who think 31 is almost 40, print the below dates on your forehead so that every morning you will recall the correct age of said IGLs in the game:
inb4: Oh, what... you're not happy with such suggestion???
Nah, that would be a bit too extreme... Healthy or not, discussions are beneficial and they do give rise to new ideas, etc... it's only that there are times when we could be more mature and suggest options in accordance with reality rather than otherwise.
Bruvvv...
Word count of reply #13: 335 words.
Never mind, you just touched a highly delicate subject... all that could be stated is that while judging a player, maybe try to be a bit more objective. If you had not included the phrase "please drop," all questions would have been dropped. I mean, Dephh just played his first official game with the team, but some severely criticising him already... yet still and without any doubt, everyone is entitled to their opinion, no matter how absurd or insightful they may sound.
In terms of your question, Shahz will never return to SEN owing to a conflict with CEO Bob Moore... Valyn was in contract with the Guard at the time...Zander and Rossy also were taken.
And please don't forget about the original SEN-XSET deal that brought in Dephh, Zekken, and SyykoNT from the ex-XSET roster to SEN. Perhaps the conditions of this deal were agreed upon and weighted according to favourable feedback from the industry – no surprise here, as XSET received a lot of great praise at the time for very much deserved reasons.
Aye, who cars ... also it's only $500k prize pool money ... not e.v.e...n ... wait, whaaaat???**
People who call this MICKEY MOUSE TOURNAMENT must be seriously SICK (pun intended) and completely NUTS on their heads!
or
EXCUSES, bruhh? I see....
Absolutely, and this is the exact message I'm trying to express here. Too many dimensions were being neglected in the analysis by the OP, yet they appeal to such harsh meassures based on not even the half-assed anlysis to decide the impact of the said player... PERIOD.
Though, please disregard my double meaning and "being a dick" approach. All is done in a good cause <3
This type of behaviour is quite regular and seasonal here...
The only thing I don't understand is why phrases like "please drop," "repair," or "get rid of..." shoud sound so harsh. For some reason, it feels like the underlying tone is constantly nasty in these sort of posts.
Many people forget or don't understand that it's a f-ing game, and games are typically unpredictable in nature... No matter how much orgs try to sway the chances in their favour by luring attractive players, IGLs, or coaching/analytics, they can never be certain of the outcome - no matter what! But, no, on here we're all full of judgements (including myself ofc), though some of us still doing great job in keeping our judgments to ourselves - especially when it comes to judging pro-Valorant players etc.
To add, while looking at IGLs, the OP at least looked at some data and did their best (respect here), however the main factor in their analysis was/is wrong, since fragging power does not equate trophies (general trend.) Adding more fragging power(controllable indicator) to the team certainly helps in terms of impact, but it is not synonymous with winning... and such is the nature of probabilistic environments known as games. Had anyone known how to build a successfull team from the get go, we'd be all on the mount Olympus sipping champagne 24/7.
Additionally, when looking at IGLs data, people manage to ignore coaching stuff, as if IGLs were acting solely on their own. This is another factor that is heavily overlooked by some when ANALysing IGLs of the game... yet this coach/IGL factor is considered to be very important, let alone, people also forget to look at the historical success in such ANALysis, and fully neglect on strength of the teams that those players/teams in question played against... too many conditions are ignored, hence we get such reports/analysis which are of the lowest quality possible - like the one presented by the OP. MASSIVE SADGE, bro!
Name RD Rating ACS K/D ADR KPR APR DPR HS
Rory "Dephh" Jackson 5683 1 197.9 1.02 129.8 0.7 0.27 0.68 24.60%
Pujan "FNS" Mehta 7190 0.86 179 0.9 117.5 0.62 0.26 0.68 20.60%P.S. If you're trying to present yourself as bright, then with all due respect, remain f-ing bright till the end!... And please, don't forget to provide us with a more in-depth analysis (of yours ofc) on IGL issues in NA, or you might seem a bit BIASED(?) - if you know what I mean... But wait, you aren't biased, are you?
You are completely correct, and they do need to establish a trend of esports discipline and structure, as well as certain work ethics that come with it... but there has been a challenge in importing such new viewes/visions... and, as strange as it may sound, the issue here is more of acceptance than anything else. Efforts to bring in new systems and coaching staff from outside the region have previously failed (except the import of players) which are the reasons to the overall stagnation in the region - Imho. The subject is not something to be discussed openly, however you may check through Insomnia's transfer history to get an idea, if you haven't heard about certain cases already <3
Well, there's nothing wrong with thinking TL is the best or one of the best in their present form... however, supporting such claims with something more substantial is always encouraged;)
However, IMHO, TL is nowhere near their top form right now. Sure they'll work it out, but Navi appears to be alright in the meanwhile.
And yes, to note by mentioning TL's terrible form, I am not implying by that that Team Secret is weak. I'm merely questioning TL's terrible form, nothing else.
No, they are not overlooked at all...
Team Secret is a strong and dangerous team that is showing signs of improvement across the roster this season. Honestly, the last time they played ITL, I was impressed by their personal, high skill level... the lads had demonstrated that they were not to be toyed with (for a sec, if we ignore that 0-13 loss to Gambit)...
Without diving into details, Invy and the rest of the team looked more than convincing against TL to make a strong call. Also Jassie seemed absolutely in place to excell in calling and add a damn good number of fraggs during TL match. And their team chemistry, in general, throws out some very positive vibes which was not seen last time they played ITL....
It's all well and cooking in Team Secret's house.
On the other hand... Navi is not exactly a walk in the park... are they? ;)
Without doubt, the match will be exciting to watch. GL!
That's great... Neither LEV nor Navi are one-dimensional teams, and both are capable of deploying different forces on their opponents at different times during the game - TACT/STRATS in action.
The question is whether Navi will face LEV in the semis or will it be a different draw - Team Secret is not an easy opponent. Though, whatever happens with LEV, I'm least concerned, but who knows how they'll do... Can't wait to see.
During the past Champions 2022, we heard similar claims... And even Kingg was impressive back then... but FPX 2-0 Lev... +twice FPX 2-0 KRU with keznit/mazino in the team....
To put it simply, teams from South America were never the type of cryptonite for FPX-NAVI.
But there will always be that first time. Hopefully, not this time ;)
Boas-vindas a VALORANT, brilho do sol!
If you would like to rate Suygetsu's ability/skill/etc in the game, I suggest starting here: https://www.vlr.gg/6941/forze-vs-team-singularity-first-strike-cis-main-event-gf ... and on until today ;)
P.S. It is kind of too low shiting on players without BASING your claims. But tbh up to you.
Nobody is mad at braindeads... you're full of "I just started watching comp-Valorant yesterday" vibes ... be writing BS like that.
+19... WP Fit1nho ....
Interesting fact: The Giants team is made up of 5 excellent Raze players who have all played pro matches on Raze at some point in their careers.
Hi there, just got up .... so looking forward ...
Aye, that's the exact issue... they showed some significant potential but something wasn't clicking, despite the fact that all of them were top notch in terms of the skill - strictly imo and others may argue with me on that.
Edited: With all due respect, I despise the process of replacing/holding/etc players in Valorant orgs... don't get me started - sure, you know what I'm talking about <3
If a better approach had been implemented by the orgs, in the first place, their many earlier-hectic rotations of the players may have been avoided imho. Again, it's another unluchko moment in the industry... and I do realise that orgs take into consideration profit by default. However, for the same reasons, they could have been better prepared for the deeper dive/approach/insight ... yet it seemed that all they were concerned with is winning titles (which still is a decent goal, but how would they acomplish that in a such hury...) Eventually, all we're left with - additional members to an already vast pool of decent Valorant players out there who are waiting for another opportunity.
Aye, agree with you on xms - a very decent player... and can/will add impact in KCORP's matches.... It's just that I'm still salty by EU orgs' disregard for the former Team BDS lineup - kind of unluchko to the boys, really <3
Revlon are you still trying to "bait?" 👉👌💤
If only Karmine Corp were rodeN, LogaN, AKUMAAAAA, ScreaM and Nivera...
However, good luck to KCORP's current roster!
Like what, creep?
Edit: He ;)
No idea what you're on about, mate ... let alone OP.
Do you need assistance with reading or what?
"Finger tapping speed (FTS) peaks at 39 years of age and declines with an accelerating trajectory thereafter." - FTS has a lot to do with your topic.
So, why only ask 16-year-olds and not all age groups from 16 to 39? Also, why do you believe that only 16-year-olds have lots of free time and not the other age groups up to and including 39?
Hmm, I'm getting weird impression that, for reasons unclear to me, you're strictly interested in 16-year-olds.
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