If this is real, genuinely fuck C9. Clown ass org.

They're orgless. If they did qual to T1, Riot would just find them an org.

they're ok.

edg exposed by dfm and prx playing a meta comp on ascent (right before it gets taken out lmao).

He'd be fine in T1 but competition is stiff. He's not a clear upgrade over anyone in NA T1 at least. Derrek is probably the worst info initiator value wise in NA T1 and even then he's still solid.

It's funny since no one says that super ranked players Karon/Primmie spanking T1 players regionally means Pacific is washed but if super ranked players in T2 do it, then it means NA is washed lol.

I rate him as the worst one on that team tbh. nightz/cane are probably the most exciting players on that team

I know shitmea with 0 trophies last year ain't talking about gamesense LMAO

That argument only makes sense if T2 teams are recycling shit players and Brawk is actually good.

Apeks is picking up someone for dropping 30+ against immortals so maybe you can be their fifth lol.

"u cant really call this cope"
ya I can

gc champs maybe lmao

Cypher or KJ over Chamber on Fracture. And brim over viper on Fracture.
Cypher or KJ bring more value compared to Chamber. And the best fracture team (EG) never ran Viper (same with FNC), so Brim clears.

Primmie wins because he can already play more than 1 meta agent in games that matter and he's only been a pro for half a year.

Teams will def change before going into stage 1 and teams will have more practice time. I def see a different T2 team being able to surpass them. For all we know, some of rankers players could get poached to a different T2 team if the money is right.

If people are fine with Karon/Primmie (2 ranked players) getting picked up right from ranked and doing well regionally, then it's not a negative thing if rankers make it to T1 in Americas.

It literally is a gigantic downgrade though lmao. Or are you gonna try to pretend a t4 duelist is anywhere close to the level of kaajak?

No? He's already gotten as popular as he realistically can as an ex pro. And he'd lose money since any time he spends scrimming/playing matches etc is time he could be spending streaming since he'd almost certainly make more money streaming than playing.

It's only an issue if they actually win Ascension since they have 2 players that are 16. So they wouldn't be able to play for part of the season they qualed for.

I think initiator because you have to actually know how to use your util well and it's not as easy as other roles util.

When Neon is a thing, duelist is not the hardest role lol.

Cane/nightz are 16 so if they did ascend, it'd be rough to find replacements and still perform well.

If there was no age minimum, I think they'd be lower in Americas but maybe squeeze out a win or 2 with some proper coaching.

Going from Kaajak to Flor kills any chance of Apeks not getting absolutely farmed lmao.

Impossible when they have the biggest downgrade in history going from Kaajak to Flor. Losing soulcas is also rough.

It's not clear if SEN academy will exist if Reduxx gets signed to the main team. That team seems to only exist rn so reduxx can play and do something on the bench.

They're 16 so can't

Said who?

cned absolutely clears flor lol.

johnqt/narrate have only tried it for one off season event? It can still work out and they could always try a zellsis/narrate role swap anyway.

True but he won champs IGL'ing from senti. Although he wasn't a lurker since they already had c0m for that.

if those "other plebs" are t4 gc players, then sure.

talent pool seems to be weak and/or apeks knows they're fucked anyway so might as well get some publicity before getting auto relegated.

https://www.vlr.gg/348471/100-thieves-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-lr2

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Or just replace Tomazy with an actually good player? Taking purp0 off of duelist would be dumb if he can perform on it.

If Leo plays, FNC will make it. TH 100% make it. Vit should make it even if the IGL'ing isn't that good.

I would say wait for the rematch at masters/champs but GX is never making it to one in the first place lmao.

They're not qualifying with tomassy on the team

liazzi
jawgemo
verno
taco
john
aspas
demon1
mada
zekken
beyn
bang
woot
reduxx
meteor
eggster
suygetsu
sayf
oxy
mako
demon1
karon

In some mickey mouse mixed spotlight tourney? Congrats.

Became clear when they had to pick up a t4 mickey mouse duelist

having ardass will do that to you.

mf make sense. k0ngk0ng fluking a champs win off of a temporarily broken mickey mouse agent doesn't mean he'll be good when Riot realizes their mistake. No neon, no win.

no neon, no fluke champs win

prx fans gonna try gassing up their team because they can 3-0 some mickey mouse ch0nese team smh.

ch0na kkkkk

Genuinely crazy stats on senti ngl. Though I doubt C9 drops anyone until after stage 1 at the earliest.

bob isn't better than any current T1 duelist or info initiator though?

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gyen. They barely played any games with him and his ceiling is probably higher.