thought we were talking about paris lol not toronto

To be fair to the rage baiters, a lot of SEN fans are the casual/annoying type fans cause SEN is the most popular NA org. That being said this is still a dumb post

Bro really changed his whole post

Anyone who says anything you disagree with = SEN fan apparently

First val game?

Yeah its hard to say. I'm loving how SEN look right now, and G2 look shaky, but with a team of G2's quality, they will make it a hell of a fight if they are back in form (assuming they face each other again)

G2 needs to regain their form to beat MIBR here, if they play like they did against 100T and EG they will lose. If they play towards their ceiling, they win.

wow

let me dash shorty for no fking reason to sell my team

Zellsis knows that his team can win a 4v5, saving his aura for more important matches

Zekken aura tbh

Rossy I kind of get because he wasn't really performing, but demon1 was actually starting to look good and was probably their best player atm. I think that this move was too quick, as they just got rossy a few games ago, and weird cause they cut their best performing player

Out of all of these, probably NRG? It would be a nice way for FNS to end his career, especially after the rough time he's had recently lol. Obv want SEN to win but storyline wise NRG would be super cool

Yeah I like this take. I think it has to do with tenz vs bang on the omen. Tenz plays so much more aggro than bang, and his playstyle worked really well for A control. Bang is more of an anchor than tenz and doesn't really have the same tendencies that worked for A control last year.

cause its funny lol. You gotta have a team to root against so why not have it be the really good team in your region?

I KNOW

Stayed up till like 4 to watch them lose to EDG at champs lol and didn't even bother with Bangkok but Toronto is perfect

I think that SEN is good on:
Split (Were not shooting back and got hard anti-d by G2, def needs some work but has been really solid for them)
Haven (G2 banned it for a reason, SEN have looked really good since switching off that Iso comp)
Icebox?(A bit early to tell, but I loved the comp that they pulled out. Zekken needs more practice with the Omen, but I think that with more time this map can get even better for them)
Pearl (I've always felt kind of iffy on this one, but its been a solid map for them all year)
Ascent (Attack side is questionable, but its ascent so that's allowable to an extent. Defense looks incredible and they have great ideas against both yoru and waylay)

I am worried for:
Lotus (I hope that there is some cooking going on here, but the lotus has looked awful compared to last year, and they seem to be missing something there)
Fracture (I hate this map and so has SEN so far, as it's their perma)

No lol, G2 is really good, and they were in good form, as shown by how well they played on Split. SEN just turned their form around for maps 2 and 3, and came out with really good comps and ideas, and some really good antis, especially dealing with the waylay on Ascent. Both teams are really good, and G2 could totally win this matchup on a different day, but SEN proved that they are able to play at that top level, which should make Americas fans excited for Toronto, as there are 3 teams (assuming G2 makes it through lowers) that are able to compete at the top level.

This match had everything: G2 dominated one map, super scrappy map 2, and then both teams dominated their respective defense halves on the final map, and it ends with SEN as the underdog winning and qualifying to Toronto, and now G2 has an unexpected lower bracket run to make.

I think that this match proved more than anything that Americas has 3 really good teams that all have the ability to compete at Toronto if they show up, and this is a good thing for the quality of Toronto as a tournament.

But c9 also took G2 super close and took a map off them. So it could count either way

They're just perfect I hate it

No it was always like this

It is incredible. Doesn't matter who's on the roster, who the coach is, or how good they look; C9 are regular-season merchants. Every split is the same, "Oh wow, C9 actually looks good and they are in good form, they actually have a chance to make it to a masters!" And then they crap the bed in playoffs and bomb out immediately. Incredible consistency

Lol SEN's entire issue has been a lack of consistency. They've started to look better here but they're issue in Bangkok and start of year has been off days and inconsistent play

I love SEN but probably 65-35 for G2.

yeah but also they are 5 rounds into the first game lol

I don't think that SEN's sucess was all hero plays. There were definitely some nice moments, but SEN looked a lot better on the majority of both maps, and C9 was only close because they got a streak of rounds in each. Definitely not a perfect game from SEN, as they struggle to close out games, but barring those streaks of rounds, they dominated the entire game

not even close loll

I see you changing your flare from FNC to SEN to look more reasonable

As they should be lol don't complain when a sport that struggles to generate hype and in person crowds finally has a good crowd

lol yeah but they want to win so they play c9 instead of mibr

Is it guaranteed that #2 alpha is on the #1 omega side?

Yeah it's difficult because some teams have more money and better conditions than others and will always get the better players. Plus, esports margins are ridiculous, so you have to find a way to incentivize teams to invest in getting better. Tough problem to solve but its just where we are rn

I get the frustration, but having less T1 teams would rlly stunt the game no? More people get stuck in T2, less opportunities and money for them, and less room for growth and new talent. I mean this happens with every major sport, there are always teams that are better and teams that are worse, the issue comes if those bad teams can't get better over time (looking at you Furia)

Yeah, who knows, maybe it's a SEN strategy thing of always trying to be opportunistic with smokes and wallbangs + good game understanding and knowing spots where their opponents like to play. Either way, they rlly do a great job with the wallbangs and smoke kills

I guess im assuming that 100T also shows up and I think they're good enough to make it a close game. Also I think KRU always does the same thing year after year where they can beat anyone, based on pure firepower, but are the worse team overall, so I think even at their best they lose to a team who shows up in the firepower department. Then again keznit go brrrr so who knows 2-0 KRU

Depends on if KRU shows up. If they play like last week 100T hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby memes them. If KRU shows up it goes to 3 maps and its a toss up

Practice? Idk guess we'll see how their pearl is when they're in a better form

Yeah, I think if he wins this year, he is undisputed top 3, and if he keeps it up for 3-4 more years like you said, then he has a good chance to be the greatest

Number of wins and championships is definitely a huge part of it, though. It's not the only thing that counts, but I think it would be unfair to say that Verstappen would be the GOAT if he retired today, because of the lack of longevity and accolades. That being said, I wouldn't be against having max in the top 3 of all time, and he is for sure on pace to challenge for GOAT status

Best rn, and is on pace for best of all time. Can't put him there yet, with 4 championships compared to 7 for Shu and Hamilton, plus the countable stats from them having longer careers, but if he keeps it up for another few years he'll be there for sure

Hes just the best

You didn't really answer his point, both Demon1 and Crashies played poorly in NRG last year, when FNS wasn't on the team. I would agree with the thoughts that FNS is not mechanically good enough to be a pro player, but those two players being better this year than last can't be tied to FNS, but can be tied to NRG as an org.

It goes by map diff and then round diff I think h2h means almost nothing

Also they wouldn't want to matchfix, having the #1 seed is huge and they just dropped from 1 to 3

i mean yeah obv still gotta glaze the goat

https://www.vlr.gg/player/8480/aspas

POV: SEN gets one smoke kill when bang sees the bullet tracers from the vandal

BANG WTFFFF

Yeah I think its just been a tough transition tbh. Figuring out how to play with a new team while also figuring out his specific role within SEN when they already have a great duelist and other good initiators. Today looked great, admittedly against a weaker team, so I hope he can get some confidence moving forwards cause SEN has crazy high potential this year if they can figure out how to consistently play at their ceiling