Honestly BuZz got 2 or 3 to open the game, so it makes sense he'd be feeling himself. The other 4 played it horribly though

LMFAO

idk nobody knows how that tournament could have turned out though. if LOUD didnt attend copenhagen then we could have assumed that they'd have won copenhagen as well instead of getting grouped

moreover there's nothing to say fpx would have won copenhagen had they participated in reykjavik because so many things change

why is FPX 1st-3rd for Reykjavik...?

sulkyfetish can be quite annoying

thanks for triggering my ptsd

edited my reply w additional info!

Yes of course it wasn't close PRX were playing with a Gekko onetrick streamer instead of the best player in Pacific lol.

TL EDG NRG EG were competitive but so was TH G2 100T and arguably FPX.

Also I edited my comment above for clarification.

I think LOUD could have beaten that FNC had they not slumped, considering they almost beat them at LOCKIN and then beat them at Champs.
DRX and NAVI I agree.
But also no team was gonna beat GEN.G at Shanghai except maybe FNC, so the same rule applies - there was maybe only 1 team at each event that could have beaten the winner.

FNC didn't exactly fall off, they had just won EMEA.

DRG FUT T1 are bad 100%.
Likewise ASE FUT T1 were bad at Tokyo as well.

If you're saying TL was good at Tokyo then PRX was also good at Shanghai considering they almost beat 100T to make top 4 and they had also beaten GEN.G heading into the tournament.

Also FNC had the advantage of starting in playoffs instead of groups at Tokyo, though obviously they would have made it past groups there's a possibility they lose a map or two.

I mean in the end I agree FNC Tokyo was more dominant than GEN.G Shanghai but I just don't see why Shanghai is so much lower than Tokyo considering the circumstances were almost the same.

tbf PRX also had a sub for Tokyo, DRX and LOUD were at their lowest points, and TL made the event. I think it's disingenuous to mark such a stark difference between Tokyo and Shanghai tbh.

TH at Shanghai may have had a sub but it wasn't for their best player, unlike PRX. And PRX were the dominant #1 Asian team too.

Not saying FNC weren't dominant but I think the reasons you pointed out for why GEN.G isn't higher can easily be applied to FNC.

I think they're including the level of the gameplay and competition when talking about prime, otherwise SEN and FNC tokyo would be 1 and 2.

Stax smokes
KK, Smoggy, Haodong, Nobody smokes
Munchkin smokes too I think not sure on this one??
f0rsakeN smokes, idr maybe Mindfreak also??

smoking is very common amongst eSports pros as it's a high intensity stressful job and most pros are Asian so smoking is the most convenient way to deal with that stress.

no way she tweeted this

pro players r people too

tone deaf af

yea true, i just really like f0rsakeN and Alecks and mindfreak, etc. the old core

same. they've become kind of unlikeable this year ngl. but obviously id be happy if they win champs nonetheless

this downfall needs to be studied

wdym yall ? im a geng fan lol

NAH THE RESPECT IS ACTUALLY WORSE LMFAO

true! Just realised the PRX fangirls also witchhunted Flashback too lol

nah no way right

yeah pretty tactless. i think after that game prx lost and got knocked out lol

idt it was like a malicious thing, just like a :p, but it was already uncalled for and there's no way she doesn't know the strained relationship between China and Korea + the GEN.G situation. Just came off super ignorant and rude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unt9nwk6uus

At Shanghai, while being interviewed alongside xccurate by mikaFabs.
When asked how she felt about Shanghai she said it was good and she "loved Shanghai......much better than Korea" and stuck her tongue out lol
Everyone was like wtf??? and KR netizens got kinda pissed because it was literally out of pocket. This was after the controversy about GEN.G being bullied by the crowd and the ranked players came out as well.

Edit: To add, PRX have a SHITTON of Korean fans, so they lost a lot of goodwill in Korea after Jinggg's cardboard comments and Jinggg's mum's interview.

xccurate's reaction was the best bro realised he was in danger just by being next to her when she said that LOL

Ever since SulkyFetish and JingggsFamilyLawyer joined
Ever since Jinggg mocked GEN.G for 1 cardboard, PRX 1 trophy
Ever since Jinggg's mum took shots at Korea for no reason during Shanghai
edit: Ever since PRX fangirls started witchhunting Flashback (including something's gf and Jinggg's mod)

PRX have been on a downfall lol.

Is this karma?

only downhill from there

No way something goes to EMEA those guys are sleeper af zzzzzzzzzzzz
Not to mention vitality's coach just said Trace are better than almost every EMEA team LMAO

thought it was 7 kills not 9

everytime this guy gets a kill it's fast as FUCK
When you see him peek you're dead. No wonder this guy was hyped up. That kill onto C0M during the 1v3 was insane. And when he peeked C0M just now. You see him and you're already dead.

erm...

no one said that lol they just said he's one of drx's best players and it's true even now

they're already the best team of 2024 unless it's TH or SEN placing higher than them.

GEN.G making finals determines whether they're in the argument for the best team in history

Sayaplayer is literally incapable of flexing. i literally told you this in my first reply lol.

you're not taking meiy off duelist.

so you're forced to run either double duelist or duelist/chamber comps every map. because saya was terrible when he wasn't playing duelist.

this is assuming yotaa is down to play initiator or smokes. his second best role is senti btw.

yoshii also only plays senti or duelist btw. the last time he played initiator was 2 years ago btw.

This is not football. All characters move at the same speed, all the characters have the same health, all the characters use the same weapons. This is not a class shooter, this is not Overwatch, mechanics are mostly the same for all characters

Roles on this game are not as defined as football. Roles are based in playstyle, all of the players you just said would be capable of flexing if that was the case. If you want to get a japanese roster where all the players are specialized in a single role, you will not have it, because there are no japanese players who are specialized in single a role that will dominate tier 1

bro thinks this is cs instead of valorant im dead.
initiator players, sentinel players, and smokes players all play differently from duelist players lmao.

you do know that for example smokes players should usually try to stay alive and/or lurk comparatively more than initiator players or sentinel players because generally smokes are useful for a retake/hold and can be placed down from across the map?

you know that initiator players generally don't look to lurk on the map because they need to provide utility for their team during a hit?

obviously these roles/playstyles aren't locked but there are basic things you naturally do depending on what role you play. a duelist player can dry contact an area, but if a sentinel does the same thing it's a lot riskier because you'd be moving ahead of your util and if you die, your setup dies with you. and teams usually rely on passive sentinel info to cover holes in their defaults i.e. if kj dies pushing ascent b main as def then turret/alarmbot goes down and you have a gaping hole in mid and on b main.

you have no idea whether these players are capable of flexing at all.

and wtf is this?

Look at Liquid, they have 5 players with locked roles and they haven't innovated in comps all year, because only one of their players can flex.

No one said anything about having players who can't flex being good. "You want players who can flex - so why are you suggesting players who can't?" is literally my entire point. what???

you clearly haven't even tried to play on a competitive team or participate in a competitive setting. so this is where i leave you. it's not worth talking to someone with your rationale.

guess yay was neither talented nor salaried.

you're argentinian, so let me put it this way: messi is the goat and salaried. that means he should have no problem playing as a defender right? =)

go to oxy and aspas's vlr pages and click all time.

go to t3xture's page and notice the only non duelist he plays well is kj

go to jinggg's page and notice the only non duelist he plays well is sage and maaaaybe clove

zekken is the only person on that team who can actually flex.

yay flexed more than oxy and aspas have in their entire careers. lmfao.

no because even though i'm wrong i will refuse to accept reality

geng are 5-4 vs sen in maps

get a team of aspas t3xture jinggg zekken oxy guys its ok just make them rerole !!!!

the last time meiy didn't play duelist was 2 years ago

the last time sayaplayer offroled was when T1 was in NA and he was garbage

just get a normal ass good initiator over sayaplayer lmfao even bazzi is a better choice

you only remember good reroles and never bad ones. anyone remember yay on viper and skye lol

some duelist players are smart enough to learn new roles. saya is not one of them. and you'd be insane to put meiy off duelist.

i didn't read the rest of your post im dead

drx vs hopeful fans
tenz & chet vs riot pcs
geng vs china

prx vs edg has happened at every single event for the past 5 events in a row

champs 2024
masters shanghai
masters madrid
champs 2023
masters tokyo

edit: ok technically speaking prx can avoid edg at champs 24 but still.

keep meiy but get sayaplayer & yotaa make it make sense

no worries and yeah obviously it's bait. i just wanted to give my opinion on it and hate on edating content/culture xd

mfw a girl can't be friends with another guy
i know people who duo all the time but have no feelings for each other.
i've duoed with girls before and it's literally just us playing the game or i'm smurfing so we can just chill really
like it's just a video game lmfao
besides, kyedae literally cried in the car when she thought of tenz leaving her or some shit
plus the guy probably knows tenz is the only guy for kyedae considering all their pda clips and the fact that they're fucking engaged lol

chronically online and probably watches so much valorant edating like schrodingerlee that the perception of male-female relationship dynamics is warped beyond comprehension

No shot TS import a player they've been strictly PH for like...forever

W costs nothing to be a nice person (but sometimes its funny to be a hater xd)

His good vibes and positivity replenish his skin :)

Okay maybe idk he seemed to do decently on senti at the end of the season

SugarZ3ro was IGL for ZETA the past few games. I thought about moving CLZ to Zeta instead of Nobita because everyone besides him would be ZETA Academy.

I think the SyouTa/Meiy duo would be fucking lit. Plus I think SyouTa's smokes are better than his duelist.

DFM:
SyouTa
Meiy
CLZ
GON
Tenzou/yatsuka

ZETA:
Dep
SugarZ3ro
Aace
Caedye
Nobita

thoughts

deryeon ace
oxy sheriff ace on bind
demon1 fracture ace
crashies rope ace
f0rsakeN 1v5 split
stax 1v5 bind
Wo0t ace vs G2 and FPX
Marved ace vs TGRD
MaKo ace vs PRX bind
Bang ace on Breeze
b0i ascent ace
Keznit first ever 6k vs FNC
d3ffo ace vs 100T
KangKang ace vs TL