Indo + Thai production OMEGALUL.~ recipe for disaster.

Guess I'd put in PTC. Capable of Co-IGLING, leadership and experience as well as flexing to initiators/sentinels and viper relatively freely

How is the USA not in your finals. It would probably be a US vs Russian (maybe Korean) finals

Ah yes, my favourite international superteam full of talent from around the world.

What would your international superteam be if you had to include players from all 3 major regions (ignore language barriers, this is a superficial world where everyone speaks proficient English to an international standard)?

Had to include the all 3 regions part otherwise people would just be saying FNATIC and I'd be hard pressed to fault them lmao.

I doubt it, MiTH looks far better when they're on their game. I don't know what happened. XIA impressed me considering their prior form, but their strategies are still far too lackluster and they seem a bit disjointed at times. Their headcoach is also doing this for the first time so I don't know how experienced he will be in terms of counterstratting, setting up executes etc. but he sems like the type so focus more on fundamentals like communication and trading rather than elaborate strats.

That being said, I think XERXIA have great mechanics and now that they've proven themselves on a national level, I hope they put in much more work than before to strategise and familiarise themselves with the meta since their gameplans are still far too basic and uncoordinated for my liking. Also, when listening to interviews, apparently their headcoach just started 1 day prior to their first game in Split 2 in addition to 2 fresh faces in xZe and siraphop (which may experience the rocky 4-3 result in group stage) so there can only be improvements from now right?

I think XERXIA can potentially be a dark horse of this tournament (+ I hope it's a crowdbuff not a nerf and I think they have a decent chance of making it out of groups), but I still have BLEED or DPLUS winning it (MiTH would've been in the top 3 had they not choked).

I think myself and most Thai VALORANT fans who follow the Thai VCL are incredibly sad and disappointed with the fact that MiTH didn't qualify (But you can imagine if the fans are disappointed, then how disappointed must the MiTH players be). They've been dominant for so long and they felt like the 2nd best Thai team that could fight on the global scale. With XERXIA qualifying, it feels like our hopes of getting a 2nd Thai team in the PACIFIC league has effectively been dashed since just from watching XERXIA, I do not think they have the caliber to win Ascension just yet. Regardless, I do like the XERXIA players and I wish all the best for them since they are the only THAI representatives after all ~ I WANT THEM TO PROVE ME WRONG, and I am praying to god they cooked up a bunch of strats since the finals of Thai VCL cause otherwise I don't think they stand a chance unless they just out mechanic everyone.

TLDR: XERXIA look decent but still lack too many things in regards to strategies and gameplans, as well as shaky trading and disjointed executes. MiTH looked miles better prior to the playoffs and it seems they had an off tournament after the month break from group stage. XIA may be a dark horse in Ascension, but I don't have my hopes up ~ praying for crowd buff.

2:0 for Brazillian Buttlift Queens. Not my intention to be sexist, it's just their abbreviation so I had to.

Nah bro, there are many unpolished gems in the Thai scene but you gotta watch the Thai VCT circuit to find out. I just think that TLN has one of the best coaches rn (as much as Zeus may throw with his comps and strats) as well as good leadership in Crws and Foxz.

Kadoom is absolutely insane (but I like garnetS alot too).
Siraphop has great mechanics but XERXIA have been running sova 90% of the time so I can't really speak for his other heroes.
sScary is sScary but if I couldn't get sScary I would put b3ta in.
Jitboys is just the ultimate flex and he has impressed me on his sentinel switch since sushiboys has been having an off time.
Crws is the backbone of experience and IGLing, as much as he may not be a flashy player, I think he plays a major part in the team dynamic.

Thailand dream lineup (IMO):

Duelists: Kadoom (MITH), garnetS (TLN), JohnOlsen (FS), Changee (SP)
Initiator: Kongared (MITH), siraphop (XIA), foxz (TLN), LBY (XIA)
Controller: sScary (BLEED), xZe (XIA), b3ta (MITH), Kntz (CRIT)
Sentinel: sushiboys (TLN), PTC (MITH), Thee (FS)
Flex: Apinya (FS), Crws (TLN), Alonefillz (MITH), Patiphan (TLN), Jitboys (TLN)
Coaches: Zeus, Leaf, Dojayut

My Starting lineup:

Duelist: Kadoom
Initiator/Recon: Siraphop/foxz/Alonefillz (I think Siraphop is super talented, but I haven't seen him play much outside the Sova so I don't know how flexible he is and foxz is just immensely experienced)
Controller: sScary
Sentinel: Jitboys
Flex: Crws (IGL) ~ I think Crws lacks in firepower but I think he's one of the better IGLs we have in Thailand and I want him back on initiator.
Head Coach: Zeus, Assistant Coach: Leaf

Alternate Wildcard Lineup:

Duelist: garnetS
Initiator/Recon: Alonefillz
Controller: xZe
Sentinel: PTC (Co-IGL)
Flex: Apinya (IGL)

I'm hella sleepy rn, so my lineup could change, but I didn't want too many of the same team so I tried to spread it evenly.

I could see a Masters Jakarta/Manila. Sad that Bangkok is likely out of contestion, unless they see immense success in this VCT Ascension Pacific event. VALORANT is probably the biggest PC game in Thailand atm, so I'm really hoping the crowd impresses on the global stage much like Tokyo just did. We are tenured in FPS games and events for PUBG, Overwatch and CSGO have been hosted here already and none of the games have reached as big of a casual audience as Valorant has so fingers crossed all goes well.

More Asian LANs are absolute necessary. We were stuck in Berlin/Rejkavik for a while. Then Brazil. More NA tournaments could also be nice.

MiTH didn't look like themselves after the group stage concluded. There was a month break inbetween the group stage and the playoffs and MiTH ended up heavily underperforming (perhaps the 7-0 result in the group stage became their Achilles heel and they perhaps didn't prep for the other teams as much as the other teams prepped against them). MiTH were still solid, but FS and XIA looked like they had good reads and were so much more disciplined than they looked from the group stage. Also, Kadoom had a bad tournament, the dude is absolutely cracked and just unfortunate he couldn't turn up when they needed him the most.

XIA ended up have to play a BO3 and a BO5 in the same day with a 30 minute break (dumb format) to claim their ascension spot so they deserve the respect for having the grind. They looked good, their star players xZe, siraphop and al3rt are insane (al3rt is a little inconsistent, but his peak form is incredibly scary). LBY is their IGL and he had a good tournament in the playoffs which I think was the key. Rolex is a CSGO veteran so he has that competitive experience to guide the younger players on the roster.

Xerxia clears

Hard agree, just give the extra slot to PACIFIC, we deserve it the most. Just give TALON the pity ticket, we sandbagged our way through the regular season, but now it's the time for us to aboslutely dominate these teams. TBH, before this tournament, I'd never even heard of FNATIC, I solely watch TALON because they're the best team in the World.

Xerxia clears, home crowd buff ~ siraphop, xZe and al3rt bout to frag the fk out. LBY is bout to use his massive, throbbing brain to IGL (also, double crowd advantage Thai + Japanese fans SURELY even though Thai is LBY's first language). ROLEX has that veteran CSGO experience, he's gonna pull through this tournament with these clutch genes.

Anyway, aside from inhaling the entirety of my copium reserves. has anyone watched all the PACIFIC leagues objectively and which team looks the best in terms of mechanics, teamwork and strats? Haven't had the time to fully watch all the leagues, but might find some time to do the big contenders like BLEED, DPLUS, BOOM (maybe FANCY/ONE TEAM).

The only real pickem on this thread.

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/ac6aea2f

Team One is expected to win this matchup.

Hey hey, he was a CSGO pro before that :D

He's unemployed bait posting 24/7 ~ just learn to ignore this gremlin.

You're not a hater, you're just mentally retarded. Reading any one of your comments in this thread has made me significantly dumber and dumber, I feel my Masters diploma being loosened from my grasp the more and more I read... anymore and I might regress back to infancy and into the womb.

Franchise or Masters. There's a big difference but probably DFM I guess.

Regardless, they're an org and things must move on EVENTUALLY, and I'm sure RIOT will allow for exceptions. I feel bad for whoever will replace Twisten, undoubtedly there will be some hate and there will also been hidden pressure and sadness on their shoulders, replacing someone who passed away would certainly make me uneasy but I hope for the best for whoever it is, the vitality players and staff, the org and the valorant esports scene as a whole.

RIP TWISTEN you GOAT, you'll be missed.

Also if anyone is struggling with depression, anxiety or anything ~ please reach out for help! it's never too late for anyone and there's only one of you on this planet, you're not replaceable so stay strong and keep your chin up.

Arabs have that monopoly money fr. Regardless, this is bound to boost some viewership numbers for the Saudi League. If Messi would have went, it might've sparked 100x more interest to see the Messi vs Ronaldo rivalry for a few more years perhaps.

The resemblance is uncanny.

PRX = SMG
XERXIA = FSS

I mean, XERXIA did beat MiTH. Whether it's due to a drop in form of MiTH (Who were heavy favourites with BLEED) or a surge in power over the month break from groups. I think people are sleeping on XERXIA including Thai fans ~ xZe, siraphop and Alert and absolute monsters and LBY can be to (My worry is he is super inconsistent) and ROLEX is their IGL and anchor.

I think group A is pretty balanced, Indo teams are always scary fraggers, FANCY has been consistently good, NAOS is Filipino ~ these teams always show up somehow and ONE team also looks good. Regardless, I gotta root for my boys and the hometeam (hopefully hometeam buff shines through).

This is why you don't gamble kids! Especially if you don't watch the games. You should know that FSS is also strong.

holy. I play 1600 dpi and 0.92 sens but that's crazy.

It's not even LAN, there should be no issues with leaving it to another day and making today BO5 (apart from giving the upper bracket winners a slight advantage in regards to fatigue). I'm a fan of all these teams, but I feel like a BO5 for such an important qualifier like this is necessary.

Regardless, I'm a fan of all teams, and you can see how much XERXIA and FS have improved in the break. They look disciplined and drilled with the mechanical talent to back it up.

I want MiTH the win this tournament, XERXIA and FS are good, but I think MiTH deserves it. A lower bracket run will certainly make it sweeter if they manage to. However, FS looks really disciplined and clean thus far but I don't think any org other than MiTH is more suitable than raising the Thai flag in Ascension.

MITHSUSU

What do you think the top teams of each Ascension tournament will be and thus favourites to make it into the league next year?

MiTH when all the players are on their game can definitely compete fiercely in the Franchise league but I fear that some of their players are inconsistent from time to time. It will be a shock if they don't enter ascension as the Thai representative since they've come so far already and I feel they truly represent the next best Thai team both in namesake and in skill level and I hope the stars allign and all the players pop off when it's most needed.

Can some math whizz give me the run down on how TALON may be able to qualify by winning the next 2 games. I'm interested but too lazy to do all the calculations.

I'm decent familiar with the T2 Thai scene and I like your selections thus far.

Personally, as a joke (but also not really) I would add the entire MiTH team for Thailand lmao, I think they're better than some of the bottom tier of APAC franchising (DFM cough cough) at least so I reckon they could do well (I think they could beat 100% TALON in their hypertroll form, but if TALON is on their game, then I think it will be tough but honestly, MiTH has stepped up their game a lot this year to become a disciplined team in their own right, so I think TALON genuinely might lose this matchup).

Some young players not on your list to look out for ~ Changeee (I'm actually a strong believer is this kid but I think hes still hard underrated), Flukyy, siraphop, al3rt, Pinnochios (I think this guy is underrated as an IGL too and doesn't get enough credit in the Thai scene)

Many more mechanically good players (as with other countries I'm sure) but I think these individuals have bright futures since I think they are both mechanically skilled and play smart which I value. I don't think APAC lacks any talent mechanically-wise, but we're ooga booga brain half the time, lets be real and imo, MiTH feels the most non ooga-booga team in Thailand (and maybe APAC as a whole) to me but I can't deny I haven't seen some skull numbing disaster plays from them from time to time.

-Why does this site look like it was developed on Windows 96

TALON when not hyper trolling > GE, ZETA. Still dislike the 6 man roster btw. Just want Patt or Garnets to be main duelists, both are good. Would make the firepower argument, but sushiboys and jitboys are pretty strong in terms of firepower so unless you're subbing in Patt for weaker firepower, I think the other's util usage is just better.

Bro has a hate boner for pacific lmao. Touch some grass ~ spending hours browsing vlr of all things is just sad.

Belgian brothers left on their own accord to join a french speaking team, and Scream seems to love IGLing as a duelist, despite being pretty ineffective at best. Soulcas is alright, he was a consistent last year but he definitely looks lost sometimes. I can't fault him too much on icebox, the sage role is just a braindead plantbot half the time and his teammates just kept leaving him isolated, but his astra did look a little sus.

Talon 2:0

ZETA rolls these frauds.

The only real take.

cCrws*

Nah, my manz on the good shit. TALON LFG BABYYY!!!!!

b3ta is their IGL, I don't know who would be able to take his place. He's good. I genuinely think this team doesn't need to change anything other than maintain consistency of all players. I feel like kongared is the most inconsistent

If MiTH has a million fans, then I am one of them. If MiTH has thirteen fans, then I am one of them. If MiTH has only one fan then that is me. If MiTH has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If India is against MiTH, then I am against India.

2:0 pack your bags, you're boutta get Kadoom'd

Maybe Deryeon is a better oper but I think Kadoom is better 100%. No bias here clearly.

Define close...

KRU wins these 100%, X10S don't stand a chance... 2:0 KRU, 26 : 5

Curse please work, prayge

Wait for the game to end lmfao

Thai shroud

Reformed org, PogU?