Anyone denying FNC's performance this year afterwards is just baiting for reactions.

Sacy and saddhak don't even play the same roles as TenZ. Derke had more mvps that tournament and their team was just outclassed in firepower against sentinels. And scream? He still doesn't really look that great despite his mechanics.

I didnt discount 2022 at all, why would I suddenly discount 2023 in two years? There have been double the amount of agents since the game's release. It doesnt take much math to understand that a game becomes more complicated with more agents involved, but diminishing returns will eventually kick in.

And, why would I discount FNC's run? They have looked so dominant the entire year and ahead of everyone else.

I mean, players are much better now, no? And from Reykjavik to champs, a lot had changed. Reykjavik was a post-plant meta and that disappeared right after masters 2 (The reason why v1 dominated during qualifiers). Afterwards, Gambit started to lead the meta.

No, this is just my observations from watching Ignition series and onwards. It just isn't the same. TenZ has insane mechanics but absolutely wouldn't thrive the same way prominent duelists are now. He even admitted himself right now that he is more of an initiator player.

It had its own difficulties back then for sure, but it was still much simpler. Its like, Wardell became obsolete, not only because the operator got nerfed, but comps were starting to become adjusted to have a chance against operator plays. The scene now has household teams and cores because its more developed. Also, its been known that sentinels didn't practice very often and were winning because Sick and TenZ had insane mechanics.

Also, this was an era where you could still run Reyna and it wouldn't be that troll?

I mean, he dominated during an era where valorant was simpler and teams were not really developed yet. Like, it was only starting from last year and the end of 2021 where we began seeing a more developed scene and household teams.

Ascent is a terrible map for PRX's strategy, style, and comp. Yes, their current agent comp is to their strengths, but there is a reason why teams only play one type of agent comp on ascent.

I don't think most people hate fnatic, but this response on vlr is expected when heavy favorites lose; almost like how NRG lost to BLG except LOUD has fans while NRG has haters.

when did FNC talk shit?

I think you need to swim in the Yangtze River

Dude, even optic at its peak and 2022 consistency wasn't an era. How tf is EG an era after making one deep run?

oh I see, I thought it was more than that. Whzy was a major reason for TOE dominating in the beginning which is why I partly assumed TOE and BLG were there.

uh no, BLG core has been together since forever Im pretty sure. They were the no.1 CN team under the name "Tales of Eastern" like two years ago.

Even if LOCK/IN wasn't an invitational and was in the traditional masters format, FNC still would have won that event.

If he was female, then he wouldn't have to do military service.

no, EDG >>> FUT from aim all the way down to strategy. BLG vs FUT is 50/50, with edge to FUT imo.

Kang Kang awp shot on fracture against Giants is probably the most wild no-scope shot I've seen.

FNS, Wardell, Subroza, Yay, and I think b0i? Honestly, that roster ain't that bad on paper.

THATS MY GOAT

Could be my approach to how I think a duelist should be, but seeing victor over the years (since even T1), he's always looked better imo on support roles like Skye and such.

Maybe explosive is the wrong term but when I see Victor satchel onto site, he gains space but doesnt have the firepower to capitalize on that space as those duelists I mentioned above do. Victor is a great player, but I personally feel like duelists like raze and possibly jett just do not play to his strengths.

Victor can be aggressive but he is NOT someone who can be an explosive duelist with significant value and firepower like other players like Kang Kang, Jinggg, Something, Derke, Whzy etc.

I mean, if there wasn't two lcq spots, its hard to say if Giants would clear NAVI. I think the chance that NAVI wins against Giants is lower than the latter but its not a clear diff imo. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

Kang Kang's awp isn't defining because of the dash either though. It just looks more insane with the dash at times; most of the time he just peaks, hits an insane shot, and then peaks again without using the dash unless it was really necessary. Though, to be fair, cs awp positioning in a lot of ways is significantly different than valorant.

tbh, I don't think NAVI were frauds this time around, or at least not 3/5. I think they did better than expected and could have potentially taken it all the way through.

In this meta? Yeah, I think he works much better than Marved since lurking in this meta isn't able to be as impactful as it once was.

is platchat actually going to go?

uh, idk if you knew the history but China was dominant in CS source before the majority of the player base moved to crossfire because that was the hottest FPS in asia and no one really gave CSGO that much investment afterwards.

gone, but at least his team made it out of groups

I mean, based on EDG's playstyle and how EG did against FUT and FPX, I think EDG are favored. Again, PRX is a team that wins because their mechanics breaks structure completely and the only way to beat them, is through mechanics. EG do not have PRX's ability to do such a thing to EDG and I just don't see EG winning (although, of course, it will be a close match).

Kang Kang clears EG, sends EG to the lower brackets where EG faces BLG and then EG gets sent home afterwards.

DUDE, HE CLAPPED BACK BY SAYING "they have a good duelist but I'm not sure what his name is"

Kang Kang's buy out can buy 100 thieves entire org. EDward can buy 100 100t.

DRX always seem to falter in the face of mechanically insane players and teams. And since DRX and China scrim often, I think EDG is a complete mismatch for DRX if you want to power rank them (meaning, EDG should be dominant against DRX).

PRX and EDG have the best chance since imo they have the best mechanically gifted players (on average) compared to all other teams in the field. Gun game is probably the only way to beat FNC, no amount of FNS studying will beat FNC at the moment.

my guy, something and Jinggg alone gap that entire team.

Something might be a touch overrated, but it is his presence that allows the rest of the team to play more in-tune with their aggressive duels and win.

It is what made their B rushes work since his flashes are so hard to dodge that EDG just couldn't even get a proper aim duel.

I know FNATIC players shoot back but PRX is all about aim duels. If PRX win their aim duels, they win. Its hard to say if FNC players will aim diff PRX. This is not saying PRX > FNC by any means, but this will not be a repeat of Tokyo where FNC just completely dominated.

Not really, PRX were a lot more passive in Tokyo compared to now. Yes, their microplay in general had the same ideas, but PRX are NOT playing the same game and these games show

idk, PRX's playstyle have a good chance at breaking FNC's structure, assuming PRX's aim is better than FNC in those gun fights.

Kang Kang was better but Jinggg was so crucial and it almost brings up the question of, who is the star player on PRX between the two.

Teams will fall off over time in any game and I think in valorant this will be more common place since meta shifts make it more difficult to stay on top consistently (unless you're faker and triumph over anything).

Even Astralis's era came to an end at some point and I think FNC will face a similar situation.

how tf are you saying this when PRX vs EDG is happening in like an hour?

It will be the most hype match and probably competitive one until we get another match up between PRX, EDG, NRG, FNC, DRX, and EG of sorts (so play offs basically).

The 14-12 map was a throw too, p sure it was like 11-4 at some point

wtf was that shot? This team is perfect dude. Who tf said FNS > boaster?

not just that, FNC are just a perfect team atm.

EDG 2-1 PRX