Yeah Cryo carried 100T out of groups and disappeared like a ghost in playoffs. WOW! What an important and valuable player! The tournament would be completely different if not for him!

Be fucking for real, thats not how MVP works in any part of the world (except the US apparently because they like to be different). Want to talk about value? The "value" Cryo brought to 100T was getting them to playoffs, which has its own merit, but its NOT comparable to what Trent, Leaf, Aspas, Zekken etc did. They brought their teams to podium finishes. They are HIGHER RATED than Cryo at playoffs >>AND<< finished higher, how can you possibly say Cryo was more valuable? Makes absolutely no fucking sense.

dito isso vai ser 1x1 com gol chorado do Gerson aos 39 do segundo tempo

we are never learning scrim results dont matter arent we

Hoje tem a estreia do Carlos Lanchelotti e antecipo que, em caso de vitória, estarei iludido desde já. Ballon a Vini na seleção até a sexta estrela.

Look at the original post LMAO bro couldnt handle being contradicted by like four people

nah bro thats not how it works. The MVP of the season cannot be from a team that placed 12th-9th at kickoff and 5th-6th at Stage 1, its a team game. Besides, Cryo was only insane in group stage of Stage 1. He did good at kickoff and Stage 1 playoffs but you cant call him MVP because he farmed groups im sorry.

1. True
2. Not true. If we consider only 23 and 24, Aspas has a higher rating/acs than Chron in 3 out of the 5 tournaments they played against each other.
3. Its true that its harder for him to perform but no he doesnt outperform Aspas internationally as i already proved in point 2
4. True. Meanwhile Aspas is the only player ever to make 3 internationals in 3 different rosters (was the best player in 2 of them) and also the only one to be in the Champs top 3 every year since 2022, also with 3 different rosters and 2 different languages.
5. Not true. He was top 5 in Champs 24.
6. Not true. Chron was not "at the top" in 2022, as you said he didn attend any internationals (regardless of the reason), so its a tie.

Overall i do think its a really good debate and its fine to belive Chron to be the GOAT as he is indeed a legend, but i slightly lean towards Aspas here because his regional dominance is unmatched and he is almost always the best player on his team which Chron never really was.

None? Its definitely between Leaf and Trent bruh G2 won both Kickoff and Stage1 and they played insane, i would say Trent.]

but if i have to choose between Cryo and Aspas, then its Aspas. MIBR finished 3rd in both events and my guy was dropping a +46 nuke on kickoff lower semis

😭😭 100t fans are so funny 😭😭

I mean they both played well on Stage 1, but if "good" to you means lighting the world on fire every game then no

Trophies aren't everything

Goated sports anime and its rarely mentioned when someone asks for good sports anime recommendations. People will recommend fucking Blue Lock before Eyeshield 21 😭

i just think people talk about it less often than they should. Personally i have yet to find an anime with as good in-depth discussion about social and political problems such as colonialism, racism, xenophobia, war etc. Like its by far the anime that deals the best with these topics and yet when people in the community want to talk about this stuff they bring up something like AOT and then the discussion just comes down to "Yeah man war is bad :( and both sides are losers in the end! War really sucks man :("

Eyeshield 21

Eighty-six

"past his prime" meanwhile 2025 Aspas:

https://www.vlr.gg/428011/mibr-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2025-americas-kickoff-lr4
https://www.vlr.gg/488020/100-thieves-vs-mibr-esports-world-cup-2025-decider
https://www.vlr.gg/475908/mibr-vs-g2-esports-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2347/champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2274/champions-tour-2025-americas-kickoff?exclude=&min_rounds=40&agent=all

Do pros not watch the games as well? Because most of them who have publically spoken about the topic agree Aspas is the GOAT like Fns, Nats, Zekken, Derke, Sacy, Jawgemo etc.

And no, not all the roles are equally important. If a duelist is good enough he can singe-handedly win you a series (which Aspas has done multiple times), thats not the case with any other role. Duelist is by far the most impactful role in the game and this is not arguable (and you seem to agree with me because the 2 players you mentioned as "carries" are duelists). There is a reason why Aspas' teams are always finding success. If Aspas was a controller i guarantee you MIBR and LEV wouldnt be anywhere near as good/successful in 24 and 25. Aspas is the hardest carry in the history of VCT and its not close.

No one is closer to being the GOAT than him.

This is a bad example because 2G had a sub and it was literally their first game at the t1 level, even G2 was looking hella mid in their first t1 tournament. Prime 2G would have 26-0 FURIA.

But i do agree the gap is not that big, the worst D tier teams in VCT are pretty much the same level as the best S tier teams of VCL

It seems there is a lot of VALORANT haters on this website so I'll speak up.

VALORANT seriously brings me undescribable amounts of pleasure. The graphics/artstyle is genius! The game is easy to run so I can play with my friends from other tax brackets! RIOT Games brings updates to accomdate and improve based off our feedback! VALORANT gives us new content at a perfect rate to not overwhelm or keep the game stale for too long! VALORANT is simply so perfect! Who agrees??

i mean he is not the undeniable GOAT like Faker but he is definitely ahead on the discussion as of now. If you do a pool on who the GOAT is with every VCT fan he is definitely winning it. Most pro players agree as well. Even Riot seems to agree honestly just look at how they portray Aspas whatever its an official VCT promo for a tournament he is on.

even thou this is the least hyped final in quite some time i think it will be the best one to watch since Messi and Ronaldo left

3-3 regular time

4-4 overtime

PSG wins on penalties

i guarantee you BR is like almost half of the VCT Americas fan base

I dont trust anyone that doesnt side with PSG today

putting Coldzera and Demon1 in the same sentence is straight up a crime. Cold was the uncontested best player in the world for 2 years straight, D1 was for half a season...

MINHA NOSSA SENHORA!
O IMPOSSÍVEL ACONTECEU MEU DEUS DO CÉU!!!

wtf i didnt knew Ethan was at Berlin

my bad then

https://tiermaker.com/create/vct-2025-americas-player-ranking-924719

Boostio has the edge on criterias 1 and 4. Ethan has 2. 3 is a draw. I dont see the issue but i guess they could be in the same tier arguably.

Jaw just demolishes FNS in every criteria except 4

ayo

well thats fucked

? He only misses somewhat on Community impact. Longevity is ok. Individual skill and trophies/deep runs is one of the highests on the list. I dont see the problem

How do you managed to have 3 TH players but Riens is not one of them LMAO

Criterias:

1. Trophies/deep runs
2. Individual skill
3. Longevity
4. Community impact

https://imgur.com/gallery/ZD4VB9D

https://tiermaker.com/create/vct-2025-americas-player-ranking-924719

Aspas clears Chron in criterias 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7. How is he not 1st?

Very good list thou

Antony is about to cook yall aint ready

"KMAX: 47" 💀

i think the "weak top 1" problem has a lot more to do with the teams rather than the players. Players like the ones i mentioned were always at the very top but their teams were struggling sometimes which harms them undeservedly. 2025 will be even worse btw

You could argue for a lot of players i think

T3xture, Zekken, ZmjjKK, Aspas, Riens...

Personally i think it was Zekken

why are you Naruto all of a sudden

Aspas 2024 is his best individual version and 2022 is his worst (still unbelievably good of course). Even 2025 Aspas is doing better than 2022, at least in my opinion.

probably not

"enough already" LMAO what are you some anime character? i watched this video ages ago and yes he is not the most agressive duelist but its a fact he has more first engagements than everyone on his team since ever, champs 2024 was the exception

LMAO

aspas vs g2
23 first kills / 16 first deaths
six op kills whole series

aspas vs sen
10 first kills / 8 first deaths
ONE op kill whole series

i could do this with every game but this is already enough. Yall are clowns bro

as i said, some games he doesnt take the most first engagements, but for the most part he does. He is the 3rd player with the most first engagements in all of Americas Stage 1, but aint no one pointing that out because it doesnt fit your narratives

"stats show that he is a baiter" he has the most amount of first engagements on every team he has been since ever and its not close. Sure for some games he is not the one taking the most first engagements but for the most part he is

The video in question proves that he is not btw

Cortez was the one that called the bait setup in the moment you are refering to btw

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

os dois ue kkkkkkkkk enfim eu so acho que o MIBR nao liga tanto pra esse torneio, por mais que eles falem que ligam, zero chance deles estarem levando a EWC tão a sério quanto o Masters ou até o Américas, nenhum time no mundo ta provavelmente

Primeiro que as finais do Americas eram mt mais importantes que a EWC. Segundo que o perfil do MIBR como time é o de não se importar tanto com jogos que não são essenciais e isso já ficou claro. O MIBR jogou pior as finais do Americas em relação aos outros jogos por que eles ja estavam classificados pra Toronto, que era o objetivo de verdade. Claro que eles queriam ganhar o Americas, mas querer ganhar e TER que ganhar são coisas muito diferentes.

O MIBR é um time que precisa de pressão pra funcionar, é só tu ver o jogo da FURIA, por exemplo, que foi o pior jogo do MIBR no ano justamente por que não valia nada. Todos os jogadores falaram que não levaram aquele jogo a sério o suficiente por que não valia nada. A mesma coisa aconteceu contra a SEN e G2, MIBR sabia que já estava classificado, então mesmo que eles "queriam" ganhar, eles não "TINHAM" que ganhar, o que fez ele jogarem pior, como sempre fez.

bruh its the old meta, also i guarantee you they dont give a single fuck about EWC so they will lose this series and will look pretty bad while doing it