One of the best European rivalries in football

I whole heartedly disagree and I truly think that Nivera was the only good thing that happened to KC other than ScreaM getting off that IGL copium role

Don't forget that koala and Zander are biologically Italian as well

Both biologically italian

Nah western Russia is Europe bfr

Nivera Lowkey the goat tho

Imo it's not particularly close, Apeks really looks like the best team out there. Let's not forget that s2g was being called as the best team in T2 Europe after them, and they lost to the 2 seed that was dominated all year by Apeks.

They can obviously still lose, but in my mind they are the heavy favorites. I can see only Acend and maybe digital athletics stealing it from them

That would actually help you improve the KDR but they are well below 1.00 in this category too.

Why is it that hard to understand that jemkin and kr1stal are kinda carrying? Legit question.

Look at their stats bro. Jenkins and kr1stal (IGL) well above 1.15. the rest of the team under 1.00 Vlr rating (in split 2 Japan). Don't get me wrong thr rest of the team are still good support players but like the impact they have on the game is much lesser...

Tbf even some Europe T2 teams are hot ass

Massive cope

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The top 3 is gonna be Scarz, Dplus and bleed

How? I think it's definitely Dplus

How to fix any team in under one second, made by the average VLR user:

1) kick the IGL

well done now you are a good team

cuz I didnt want to put 3 fnc players and IMO FNS is the goat IGL and I wanted to put all the goats in 1 team

I'm a menace like that

Then we should say everybody is the best player in the world??? What's that logic

Right it was a 2-0 but was a double OT. If you don't even consider that than FNC clear 3-0 Ez just go home

It's not explained in googoo-gaga termed though, is it

What

Explain?

What have they done?

I think they are both very good teams but I hardly think they will make it to any international lan next year. But who knows

Facts lol

Yeah I know, but the point is that we literally cant know if they would work. If you say it works 100%, than wouldnt it be a better question to ask straight up who woul you rather have boaster/mini or FNS/chet? On FNC boaster/mini is the obvious answer

idc if there are no controller FNS learns how to play them :)

YAY on PRIME CHAMBER
FNS to initiate yay
CHRONICLE the goat flex
NATS the goat sentinel
LEO mr. perfection

nobody can beat this team

take your 1 map win FNC winning all the others LOL

furia/sen/100T may be better than BBL/GIANTS but they are definitely not on another tier.

your teams by FNC maybe? because NAVI went always on 3 maps and NRG won 2-1 on liquid and honestly it shoudlve gone the other way

facts right there, this guy put on a whole mfing essay and didn't even think about the possibility of his data being just confirmation bias. You can hav all the data in the world but if you dont understand the causations/correlations of it, you might as well stay silent

Why do you care this much? it's not like the 5th place in americas would go and do a championship run... And anyway, americas are really not that better than EMEA lol. Mind you that NAVI possibly performed better than LOUD, FNATIC better than EG, and liquid barely lost against NRG. They are very close and you are definitely overstating it.

Americas win rate is highly inflated for having their best and second best team in groups. Put FNC and TL instead of NRG and EG and the results wouldve been the same. Not to mention that EMEA had 4 teams so ofc the average mean strenght would be lower even if the top 3 seed were as good...

You are getting too much confirmation bias from your data and you are not even thinking it through

And defintely taking TS/ZETA over GIANTS/BBL is an insane take LOL

it's not that easy to recreate a winning team by changing coaching and IGL. I'd say boaster and Mini just because we know 100% is the greatest team of all time, we have no certainty if FNS and chet's style would work

no shit buddy

idk Im just mad at NAVI lol

name checks out

It was heavily influenced by Tokyo, but hopefully he can do a bounce back. And I don't think he's better than cNed

Around Sayf. Idc he's that good

that's why I put mako above s0m, but if DRX sh*ts the bed one more time, mako's era is gone

it's literally the top 10, chill out

no it wouldnt lmao

id take gambit over optic easily

7 months difference and sentinels already didnt perform so well in Berlin?

I thought that haodong was CHICHOO lol. In that image chichoo does not loke at all like irl tf

if we wanna be honest mako played "poorly" (still incredibly, but poorly for his standards) in both vct pac playoffs and tokyo. I really think that rn he's not s tier, but him and less could ofc bounce back (+he was outclassed by rb lol). There is a legitimate argument to be made for s0m to be better than him

he performed better than anyone below him (with maybe the exception of Ethan? and maybe s0m), but he hard carried against PRX and grand finals

nah jinggg the goat tho

Im ranking them in general. I think that if you had to rank players on how they performed one should just look at the vlr stats and do like very little changes

who tf considers champions 21 sentinels prime? lol