Being creepy 💀💀💀 tf you talking about bud

Us doesn't have 2 titles. NA does. Stop it.

Again, total titles from Russian players: 9
From US players: 7

Also it's not like apart from sentinels and optic US is so good as you are saying... Only good team is EG

Genghsta is from Mongolia no?

NGL saw is a cracked team as well, I think they might just be top 2 in T2 europe

I'm just saying. Both nations got 7 players with a title, only Russia has chronicle with 3 titles on his own, why is what the US did more noteworthy?

Plus most of the time Canada players were more important than US players in their title runs (apart from yay, but TenZ was clearly the star player in sentinel and FNS and Marved were incredibly important pieces for optic), while Russia had a whole Russian roster winning a title+shao and suygetsu were clearly the best players in FPX.

Also US players have 0 MVP trophies, Russia has 2

It's not? Then most of sentinels (without the best player) and some of optic isn't either lol (+chronicle is in FNATIC the best team ever)

If you only follow your own league and follow Valorant since August 2022 it's pretty obvious to me that you ain't gonna know most great players lol

Spoiler: it's not Valorant based

Who knows why there aren't

Tbf Boostio, leaf, yay (maybe?), crashies, demon1, Zekken and Ethan are not that far off, but I get your point

It's true that USA is the deepest nation of all, but a team is made of 5 people. Besides, the US doesn't have many players at the level of Chronicle, nAts, Something, redgar as IGL, Shao and suygetsu, sheydos, trexx, cloud, vico, jemkin, kr1stal etc.

I disagree tbf. Up to this point two out of the 5 titles that had a lower bracket were won by the lower's winner. EG was just unlucky because FNATIC insta-bans pearl (their second best map) and fracture is the only other map in which EG is definitely better than fnc

At least the real 4 best teams really passed though (maybe dath but NAHHHH)

Vietnam is complete dogs without fancy come on now... Indo might be deeper but Imo bleed is much better than boom so that makes up for it in my mind. And there's no way that Korea is behind Vietnam 💀💀💀 and even Indo and mysg... Korea might be even better than Thailand but idk why mith fumbled so hard tbf

Bro really said 100 thieves 💀

He hasn't been top 5 Jett since 2021

FNATIC is 5-0 against NA dogs, just let it go bruh, it's over

We were talking about 2022? Can you read

Then why are you on a site about a videogame 💀

Kr1stal

Bro woke up and chose not to take his pills 💀

Yeah but I mean it wouldn't be an insane loophole to go from 1 max import to 2 max imports IMO

I meant in t2

Yay clears anybody in NA ever by a mile. I guess TenZ and Marved are top 2 and top 3 NA players ever but the rest of the top 10 is all US players apart from FNS I guess.

But you literally were talking about depht. Canada only has 3 good players realistically US has much more, even if of lesser quality I guess, but still world class

Isn't 2 max imports the max allowed anyway? I don't think it's that bad especially since jemkin looks very much asian to me

Probably not I think Russia is the goat nation

??? Marved and TenZ played so much worse than any player I nominated. NA best rosters usually have 4/5 us players and maybe 1 Canada player. Also cryo in 2022 and 2023 clears TenZ in 2022/2023

Full C9 roster, full EG roster, former optic team without FNS and Marved. CA has 3 good players from t1 and some good from T2 (Zander Koala etc) US have literally tons of talent just in t1. Leaf yay demon1 Ethan crashies s0m victor Boostio Zekken... Like what are you on about

Like bro are you serious? Jemkin is literally smurfing you aren't even watching the games I fear...

Us is so much better than Canada it's not even close lmao

I mean Russia is possibly the nation with the most great Valorant players ever (maybe behind the US). This is nothing new

Kr and mysg should be above thai indo and vn

Kr1stal Is the IGL. Jemkin is so mechanically gifted as well but I think Kr1stal is more important overall?

But I really hope that riot won't make Scarz fire one of them as Russia is mostly Asia anyway...

Exactly lol

Them we shouldn't be calling EMEA a one team region rather the world a one team scene?

Why everyone is talking about EMEA 1 team region when I don't remember anyone saying NA was trash because they had only optic?

Like legit EMEA has some players that can rival their FNATIC counterpart for some positions,

Like sentinel: Alfa is better than nAts/suygetsu but it's close
Duelist: sayf might be as good as Derke, and so on, while throughout all 2022 OpTic had clearly every best NA player for each position and by FAR (only exception might be Victor/Zekken).

And also since 2021 only 2 NA teams won a title but 4 from EMEA? What's the one team region like be for real

You are high like wtf is the point of comparing shao with boaster? Boaster is an IGL you should compare him with ange1 or redgar.

Saying that suygestu is better than Alfa is sickening at this point of time, after Alfa was the MVP in Tokyo. But yes suygetsu might be better than nAts

I know

Cuba talking?

Bro forgot Monyet the goat +xffero and sugarzero are hella good

(Not saying they are the second best controller in PAC, but Mindfreak is not that far ahead)

That seems like you are crying cuz a team is better than yours, not because the gameplay is not enjoyable.

I loved watching yay destroy teams in 2022

Not ranking people like Ethan crashies victor Zekken is kinda insane NGL

It's really not? Their best player in 2022 went to franchising and he's probably like one of the worst franchised players along with sh1n and zeishh/newzera lol

Meant LATAM mb

It's not that weird tbf. They are evenly matched and day on/day off could just mean better counterstratting and stuff. Happens in sport all the time

6 NA 3BR and 2 LATAM is much better imo

Around 60 kgs (174-20y/o) should eat more o7

Sounds cool

I don't like when obtuse NA fans call EMEA a one team region, so I can't like when somebody calls NA a bad region, even if the fans deserve it.

EMEA is definitely better than NA and it could even be better than the whole Americas (that realistically just means NA+LOUD), but this doesn't mean that NA is a bad region. It's true that their major wins are dubious, but I still think they deserve to be praised for it.

True, if FPX played in Reykjavik maybe they would've won, but maybe also not, and I don't think OpTic deserves their title taken away just for this.

I somehow think their titles are both valid (even if less than loud's or the EMEA ones) and that NA is better than any region besides EMEA and PAC (if you consider Asia as a whole, because NA clears APAC)

"doesn't want to make a superteam" like in 2022 where every single best player for any role from NA were in the same team. At least for FNATIC you can argue that shao sayf and nats are as good as some FNC player (or at least very close), for NA in 2022 the only real other option was Zekken for duelist, the rest of the optic team cleared any other NA player...