you mean PNG?

https://www.vlr.gg/373842/allat-amer-champs-scenario check here

can still qualify by points, given LEV and SEN get top 3

if 100T loses, LEV and SEN need to get top 3 for 100T to qualify by points

if 100T wins, they need to get top 3

https://www.vlr.gg/373842/allat-amer-champs-scenario

For some reason I dont like EDG winning against BLG... but nonetheless they won so congrats to them

Congrats to all, especially BLG for that absolute cinema performance

Someone's hurting here... u good lil bro?

That's the incentive for winning? What?

If you're KC fan, you need to support teams that go against Vitality

https://www.vlr.gg/373842/allat-amer-champs-scenario

done

updated

VIT (6) vs NAVI (5) --------> TH (12) vs .......
FNC (14) vs KC (8) --------> FUT (11) vs .....

FNC - already qualified at least by points
TH/FUT - only way to not qualify is by FNC loses elimination (and therefore qualified by points) and TH/FUT loses twice (FUT/TH, KC, VIT/NAVI qualified by top 3)
KC - ways to qualify
1) FNC, TH, FUT qualify by top 3, so KC qualify by points
2) KC qualify by top 3
VIT/NAVI - only way to qualify is by reaching top 3

for you chrlxz and islaaa

nooo i mean any team can beat KRU/C9 so that KRU/C9 wont reach top 3

any team can... just need to beat them

yes, one of KRU/C9 will def eliminated and the other need to place 4th, which then they wont have enough points to qualify

for you

would it makes you happy if I do one for EMEA too?

yeahh same, i dont really want them in champs

sed :((
trying to not be a toxic vlr user, just trying to have fun and giving info

Scenario 1: SEN beats G2 (champs points in bracket)
KRU (7) vs C9 (6) ----------> LEV (12) vs ......
G2 (9) vs 100T (11) ------> SEN (14) vs ......

Scenario 2: G2 beats SEN
KRU (7) vs C9 (6) -----------> LEV (12) vs ......
SEN (12) vs 100T (11) ----> G2 (11) vs ......

LEV - already qualified to champs at least by points (only lost to C9 in stage 1)
SEN - only way to not qualify to champs if lost elimination in Scenario 2, and LEV lost twice (100T, G2, KRU/C9 qualify by top 3, LEV by points)
G2 - ways to not qualify
1) in Scenario 1, lost elimination and KRU/C9 get top 3
2) in Scenario 2, lost twice (LEV, KRU/C9, SEN/100T by top 3, 100T/SEN by points)
100T - ways to not qualify
1) in Scenario 1, 100T loses elimination and LEV/SEN qualify by points
2) in Scenario 2, 100T loses elimination and LEV/SEN qualify by points
3) in Scenario 2, 100T wins elimination and then loses twice (G2, KRU/C9, LEV by top 3, SEN by points)
KRU/C9 - either eliminated or need to qualify by top 3

i think so..... ;-;

100T (6th seed) against SEN/G2 (3rd seed)
KRU (4th seed) against C9 (5th seed)

SEN vs G2 is a match to determine 2nd and 3rd seed

Not everything is American based....

double elim guarantees better ranking... top 8, top 6, top 4, 3, 2, champion instead of single elims top 8, top 4, 2, 1 so better reward distribution

also, it's 8 teams only, why not prolong the tournament, istg you guys complain for too few matches and too many matches at the same time, PICK YOUR SIDES!

talon won h2h against ts during regular season (stage 1)

need someone for Malaysia... not me tho

me want

i believe if you want to suggest a country, might as well suggest the actual venue/stadium they will play in

you can only have so much....

1. too many tournaments will make it less special for winning them
2. there are 4 international leagues, every league deserves their screen time (if not, what the point)
3. and no, saying some leagues are not worthy or some are better to prioritize is also wrong

so PRX 1st, TS 2nd, DRX 3rd, GENG points.... seems accurate enough

we're complaining about regular season being bad for splitting into two stages and want more matches for teams...
but now we want less matches for CHAMPIONS??? THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS VCT EVENT OF THE YEAR???
very interesting......

yeah but tbf it's just one extra point, cuz if you win two matches in playoffs, you're basically in top 3 already (exception to the 1st and 2nd seed's bye, where they also got extra point, simulating a win in the single elim)

english or spanish?

because both EDG and FPX are 1st and 2nd seed, so one of them must qualify as top 3, and the other will at least have enough champs points to qualify also, since no team can catch up to their points

Now it's a game of stamina.. whoever can hold on wins

With the current champs points and playoffs seed, there will be at least 1 Korean team and 2 SEA teams, so cannot send all 4 SEA teams to champs unfortunately

PRX has more points, check liquipedia, vlr didn't update the points

FNC wins against TL
VIT wins against KC
GX wins against FUT
KOI wins against TH
M8 wins against NAVI

And we have 7 teams end with 4-6 record, gonna be a hell of a tiebreaker there XD imagine tho

it's their way of counterargue or being petty for losing... let them kids be

h2h is better format, wdym?????

bro asked for final score... why everyone gave the winner?

wait, which event? you do realize qualifying for playoffs doesn't guarantee a spot in masters/champs, right?

so final week of regular is only for seeding, right? cuz we have our teams already then

because the winner gets at least 5-5 and the loser gets at most 5-5... which tiebreaker rules favors the winner by h2h win

your optimism is just what we needed... in the asylum :)

ummm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but there's EG vs 100T tomorrow... so one of them gonna have 1 extra win and at least 5-5 record

NRG officially out of playoffs

can never tied, cuz PRX has 16 while GENG's 15... if they tied at 16, meaning GENG wins against RRQ, facing PRX, which either team can win and qualify by top 3 or lose twice and qualify by points

since PRX is 1st seed going into playoffs, so they either top 3, or they stayed at 16 points by losing twice where GENG qualifies through top 3 or just eliminated entirely by RRQ amassing only 15 points

PRX has the most points right now at 16 against GENG's 15

Why? Because KRÜ won against 100T and EG from stage 1, and there's 100T vs EG match later so one of them can get maximum 5-5 against KRÜ minimum 5-5...

KRÜ wins the tiebreaker, so they qualify to playoffs... :((((