LMFAO NO WAY

NAH THEY DIDN'T

This is referring to their roster changes before they played Lock in, they don't sign these players say fuck it we go for clout.

Are you actually reading the post or are you just braindead?

Could happen, definitely a playoff team with these changes

Clout team that has 2 MVPS? 4 World Champions? The best flex player of last year?

SEN is the richest org in all of valorant franchising, yet they come 8th in their region? There has to be some sort of internal problem within the org we don't know that is preventing players from reaching their full potential. Even ghetto cloud9 even did better than them.

[NRG]

Make a roster with one player from each region!
NA
SA
China
EMEA
Apac

LMFAO I DIDN'T NOTICE AT FIRST TF

wtf is ur group D pick em explain that shit to me

Imagine if Zeta kill FNC, it wouldn't happen in 1000 years but I would love to shut up the hivemind known as EMEA fans

TL CURB STOMP NAVI 26-0

Tenz

Delulu?

Someone had to say it

yeah but they haven't fallen off at all, they've kinda just plateaued

Hello fellow troll post

yeah we could do that or get someone who already has experience igling and then add the 4-5 months. I agree with time marved could be a great igl, but rn it's just better to import john

I think NRG should be above Loud, as loud bombed out of tokyo and NRG had a top 4 performance. In the head to head I know loud is above, but for rn it seems like NRG is the better team.

Regardless of what happened in the past

The roster doesn't look okay now, we have two smokes players, two duelists, and an initiator. As well as comparatively the most inexperienced igl in all of vct.

first, chill it's an internet debate go take a walk

SEN have an unstable roster rn, period. They need a roster change because of the role overlay. No amount of time is going to change that.

The way I see it Kru and SEN had the same amount of time going into lcq after exiting the regular season and one is doing way better.

wtf is bro talking about

That's a lot of time to prep and they had a structured roster, it was a massive troll to force Zekken on duelist and move tenz to other stuff imo

hold up, wdym when you say Kru had w1 to LCQ??? They didn't give up on Americas instantly? Also both teams are studying during the regular season anyway.

Kru made changes in late 2022 this core HAS NOT BEEN TOGETHER FOR A LONG TIME. About the same amount of time as sen.

I see what u mean, but the chamber change was 4 months before lock in. That's a lot of time before.

Kru had two months and they are doing way better than SEN.
Kru has a structured roster, SEN doesn't
Kru has an experienced IGL, SEN doesn't

they had all of VCT americas playoffs, Masters Tokyo, and Americas Ascension. 100T made a run last year with the same amount of time, why can't this team?

We gave sentinels so much time to prep and they couldn't beat leviathan, I don't think this roster works...

Tenz is a one trick jett and yet Zekken is playing a duelist on every map anyway.

Marved and pANcada have a massive role overlay problem, as well as marved being a very new igl

Sacy can't play the 2nd most meta agent and he primaries initiator.

This roster has problems

Honestly if SEN keeps tenz and zekken they aren't going far.

igling on sentinel role is really easy on defense cause ur not holding an angle, you would be playing off of util. Any other igl on defense is kinda rough. there isn't really a solution to what role is best for an igl, I just picked johnqt cause he's good.

oh no my feelings

they'd pick up Johnqt for sentinel role and marved has more experience

I agree with you a lot

When pANcada was playing at Lock in SEN didn't have marved as a starter, I believe that pANcada is a great player and should be in T1

But it makes no sense to have two world class smokes players on the same team, I simply chose Marved over pANcada because he has been playing controller for longer.

We gave this team so much to prep and they are mid at best, keeping the roster together isn't going to do anything in 2023. Tenz also needs to play more than just jett to be considered good.

Tenz moved to CC

Current roster is dogshit, maybe you could keep sacy to make a trio with Zach and Jimzo.

We gave this team so much time to be good and they just aren't, I believe if you put good players from different orgs together they will become better than keeping a mediocre core together.

Zekken stays as the primary duelist player
Marved stays as a primary smokes player
pANcada is dropped
Tenz is dropped
Sacy is dropped
Johnqt is picked up from M80 as the igl and primary sentinel player
Brawk is picked up from Moist Moguls and becomes the primary Initiator player
Zellsis returns to sentinels from C9 and becomes the primary flex player
Happy new head coach for SEN

Explanation: I decided to keep Zekken and Marved as they have proven over the course of the season that they are the most consistent players on this roster. I dropped pANcada because we don't need two major smokes players on the same team, and pANcada hasn't played controller in a very long time. Dropping Tenz is a need for this roster, one big problem is that he is a primary duelist and yet he doesn't play any raze. On maps like bind where Raze is a need Tenz is forced on some weird role that makes the team comp shift in a very weird way, Zekken has had better average stats on Jett than Tenz throughout the season as well. While Sacy does have good performances on Sova and Breech, Skye is becoming more meta and Sacy cannot play skye for the life of him. He does have his moments, but he needs to learn how to play skye.

I chose to pick up Johnqt as he is a great sentinel player in NA and good igl, he brought M80 all the way to the grand finals of Ascension and honestly was one call away from me choosing Valyn rn. I also chose to pick up Brawk from MXM, he has had a major impact on their run in split 2 and I genuinely believe that MXM could've placed top 3 in ascension if they qualified. I considered NISMO, but he only played two initiators throughout the majority of the season and Brawk has had more drastic success in split 2. Lastly I chose to pick up Zellsis from C9 as he is the only major flex player in NA that would consider moving to a new org, he produced good numbers on many agents throughout the regular season and was honestly one bad call away from making tokyo, twice.

TF

I stand corrected

Goat is having to go through LCQ?????????

U a real one <3

nAts?

Have you considered that maybe there isn't anything happening and that NAVI is just dogshit?

wtf it isn't?

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/75f9d11f

ez dub for the guard

NA had Xset???

Two teams in the top 4 of masters? What u talkin about

ty

How many of you gamble on eSports? If so what platform do you use?
Just curious.

bro idk, he seemed to leave after I said that. I think he's hella scared rn