The Guard have some of the best teamplay in NA

Rise vs T1 is probably the best matchup, but I'll be keeping a close eye on The Guard's match as well

Gen.G and LG above T1 and The Guard are kind of strange choices, as both of them got 2-0'd by the ladder

Other than that, I'd prolly move BBG down at least one tier because of their recent results, the rest I mostly agree on

DRX would still claim at least one slot in an APAC qualifier, don't know if that's an unpopular opinion or not though.
Northeption also proved to us what JP is capable of, while on LAN, the experience of Korean teams will show through imo, compared to the younger SEA teams (like FS), who will take a little bit of time to adapt to the LAN environment.

Anyways, the JP and KR VCT hasn't even started yet, so at least relax until you see them actually play :<

^ Yep, forgot about that

They're owned by Kroenke, which also owns the LA Gladiators (OWL) and the LA Guerrillas (COD).

The best comparison I can make for them is an org like Version1 or Andbox, who some people may think are new but are actually owned by massive parent companies who have been invested in Esports for a while.

https://tiermaker.com/create/na-vct-teams-1228666

Now that we've seen the teams play, post your tier list below (academy teams aren't included btw because they can't compete in VCT)

Choked an 11-5 lead, wtf

Trent's going to become known as one of the best pickups of Stage 1, trust me

LFG, this team's really starting to pick up some steam. Trent and Valyn are insanely good at fragging for support players and Saya is a beast, hopefully The Guard make it to Closed.

No stream for this match or The Guard vs LG

Bruh

How is he on smokes while Babybay is on duelist?

Version1
Akrew
Rise
Gen.G
XSET
Ghost
FaZe
TSM

Damn, TBK over VK?

The SEA region is now made up of Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, and a bunch of SA countries, such as India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc.

Countries like Brunei and Laos also sometimes compete, but they don’t have their own circuit.

^
Top Korean and SEA teams are neck and neck imo

The Guard through Uppers Hopium

Nice. I kind of wished Wronski joined Order to form a super team, but Autumn is already pretty good already I guess

True, for now I can only speculate that one of them is a world class team. Both of them have the talent, the coaches just gotta do something with it :)

I mean they have players from both F4Q and NU who were both world-class level teams

Let's Go Saya! This'll be a close matchup
#StandGuard

Korea and Damwon Kia will dominate the TOP 5, they will reach the semifinals of the ''masters/champions'' and possibly win, probably Korea. Liquid will be the best team together with some Korean team, and Sentinels will disband, Marved will leave ENVY together with YAY and they will assemble a great squad in NA, but they will be destroyed by APAC and JP together with Korea will dominate the world . And those who say ''kekw korea'' will say ''they really are the best''. Stax will be the best player in the world alongside Lakia/Rb/MaKo/Seoldam/TS/eKo/k1ng/Suggest/allow

Not a bad idea, but the problem with doing both Grand Finalists is that it will heavily take away from the hype of the actual Master's Grand Final, with both teams already being qualified

Your region is 3-14 internationally and you want to talk results. The reason your region can't be called a fluke is because you guys were terrible in the first place and still are terrible.

MummAy did it against Ghost in Stage 2 I think

2 of those wins are against JP as well :p

Let's go Saya!

How many times have you guys said that now?

For the past 3 event it's always been "in a matter of time" but we've seen very little improvement, with the same braindead gameplay coming from your region.

Although I don't think KR will be above BR in a few years (largely due to us not giving a shit and wanting to play LoL instead xD), you guys talk a lot of shit for how poor your results have been. While NA and KR could have been 'Flukes', BR hasn't performed well enough to even be considered anything. Can't be a fluke if you were never good in the first place :p

DRX have taken more maps off of EMEA/NA than all of BR

Masters Reykjavik:
BR: 0 Maps Taken From EMEA/NA (2 Teams)
KR: 3 Maps Taken From EMEA/NA (1 Team)

Masters Berlin:
BR: 0 Maps Taken From EMEA/NA (2 Teams)
KR: 5 Maps Taken From EMEA/NA (2 Teams)

Champions:
BR: 3 Maps Taken From EMEA/NA (3 Teams)
KR: 2 Maps Taken From EMEA/NA (1 Team)

Stop acting like KR is the problem and BR isn't. Posts like this make it hard for me to support your region. You guys have had 2x the opportunity KR has had and you still want more :/
Lastly, BR wasn't the only region to have a boom in teams, ESC and DK will both be strong contenders, so stop saying "one team region"

26-0 O-o

Yep, and make Worlds all Korean and Chinese teams while they’re at it, cause that would definitely be more fun to watch

I’m on that Sengoku and DetonatioN Gaming hopium

Look, I ain’t complaining about KR probably getting a second spot, but 3 EMEA slots is fucked up

BR+LATAM and APAC should each -1 slot for EMEA to have 5 imo

Exactly, DRX had one shit tournament and now it’s KR and JP don’t deserve any slots

Let’s erase Berlin and Reykjavik from our memories

The winner of Masters 2 doesn’t get a slot though

4 slots for SA and 6 slots for APAC while EMEA has 3, what a joke

For games not streamed by NSG, check the other teams opponents and see if they are streaming their POV

Lakia owns Esparanza :>

ez 4 Lakia

1) stax
2) MaKo
3) Rb
4) Seoldam
5) Suggest/allow

Lakia could be on the list but he hasn't played much recently

9 invited teams sucks but at least Rebels got an invite

+1
Really good analysis my friend, definitely worth a separate thread. Now go rest your fingers xD

Mb, I’ll add it right now. I just used the Malaysian flag to represent the MY/SG region because VLR does it that way, but I can see how that is offensive and I’ll fix it now.

Edit: Added SG, really sorry about that

Damn :{
I just wanted to talk about new JP teams man... (I had them in A tier)

I respect putting JP up there, as most people forget what Nth achieved. Not many people have been covering news on the scene, but they've got a lot of new teams to watch out for in 2022 such as Reignite, Jadeite, DetonatioN (hyped to watch this team), Sengoku, and new Reject, Zeta, and CR.

I'm not entirely sure, but I'd assume not because they did not compete in the ShotVal tournament and some of their players have been trialing for other teams. One of their players also recently joined a new org called Team GP.

Fair enough, hopefully ESC, DK, and even WGS can show up this year and add some depth to our region by giving DRX a run for their money

Damn, we fell off hard xD

GL and have fun casting :)

Btw, are you doing the Bo5 as well?

Had Patiphan had stayed with X10, Thailand would have been crazy stacked this year. Hopefully Surf can put up similar results

W Tierlist :)