It was the opening tournament to the vct it was part of the vct circuit so it's not on par with ewc that's an independent tourney lock in was a official valorant tournament hosted by riot just a different format to the masters a harder format the winner had to go unbeaten in masters you get multiple chances to make grand finals lock in was a much harder tournament to go unbeaten ....

Ethan's a 2x champs winner I think he can go negative once In a while no?? Ps. He's not my goat

They've only won one masters I don't count that as accomplished their the biggest choke artists in valorant

I don't think it's down to what they want to rep it's down the actual lineage of blood relations as far as I was aware this is usually the case when it's a national tourney in any sport, also my point was kinda proven with Hiro he is dual nationality of both Dutch and Turkish

I'm not a hater or lover of both teams but on pure international experience alone I think prx take this they only tend to bottle it in grand finals minus the one time they managed to win one since vct started

Hiro from navi reps the Turkish flag but originally was Dutch I believe it's down to blood line reasons

I wouldn't be surprised if his time as a pro player and fatigue for esport would be the reasons he leaves this year as a player fnatic would be morons not to make him head coach and possibly bring back mini for the team up they would be a crazy duo for management/coaching

Lol so Sen should initially ff then as they did it before Ethan did it ....

I wouldn't be surprised if nrg makes the grand finals of this playoff their clearly a team designed for tournaments rather then league play

Sen did what Ethan did to them In previous round ... Also Ethan. Checked with admins if it was a tech pause and got no response so no it's admins who messed up dude Ethan was just using his brain and loopholes like sen did

"we learnt nothing from that match" bbl you weren't wrong 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ah ok thank you so it is down to h2h not rd cool cheers a👍

I thought bbl made playoffs ? Slightly confused as vitality are showing as above bbl in the tables (is that because of round difference ?) because on the playoff tab it shows bbl have qualified already ...

Yeah I hated him then

You have a pcific flair you should be pissed at bbl they basically stole your roster (I know they were sponsoring during ascension but who takes a full roster from a org like that )

Shooting bodies has always mattered you do it when your established and able to prove it BBL haven't their rookies being humble and not disrespectful would have had me posting a totally different post but what they did was scummy and cocky

G2thelion...you have a G2 flair and G2 in your name he never played for G2 🤡🤡🤡🤡

Shooting bodies as rookies is a scumbag move and Karma bit their back thoroughly deserved

With all do respect to M8 but they have been pretty strong as off kickoff compared to TL theyve only lost to the #1 seed of emea and beat what was one of the favourites to make masters (fnatic who didn't even make it) and considering how theyre playing right now at their first ever internationals their playing strong I wouldn't be surprised if they do well in playoffs

Aged like milk

with all do respect it's been proven in the past well since the partnership league started a full BR team hasn't been overly successful I mean you had mibr last year but they had Verno in the team, look at furia they moved away from that mentality this year and they've made majors Loud will always be Brazilian regardless of lineup they need to mix it up and take a risk I mean they weren't even a full BR team when they won champs they had sadhaak who is Argentinian

Not going to lie seeing teams that never usually make the majors is a breathe of fresh air and nice to see different teams for a change

Maybe I was wrong then but I could have sworn they or other teams have said first seeds have a disadvantage

I'm sure it's been more then one bad run as first seed ?

Their history in the past is proven they suck at being 1st seeds so my feeling is they lost on purpose

Them loosing their first game was a tactic all along, I mean this could be over reaching but think about fnatic have had incredibly bad runs as a first seed at masters, so my theory is they lost their first match so they didn't take first seed giving them the advantage of being warmed up when/if they make masters playoffs what do you guys think ?

I think we won't know until kickoff is over so many teams will be looking to bolster their roster and demon1 and Jonahp will be in their radar

Don't get me wrong if I think a team is bad ide 100% call them out but m8s have started this year pretty well if they beat bbl 2-0 I have a feeling they will be the team of emea to beat considering how teams like liquid fnatic are doing so far

Theyve beaten gx and navi of which Navi have improved on last year already fut were the only poor team they beat so far

Ps. The only team that was bad was fut, gx and navi are pretty good teams and hard to beat

Comparing last year to this year M8 is already a far better team then last season they've won every match with out dropping a single map regardless of team so sorry but I think your wrong

I never did forget I root against bbl when ever they play not because of the players but the org I like the players but in my opinion pcific were robbed of a decent roster regardless of if they paid or not and riot let it happen which is totally wrong and just shows riot don't care

That is true but it's not fully hosted in one region it's just an opinion

He's always been a great player but I hate to say this but emea and all the other regions aren't being hosted in one region this year so we can't really say hometown this year imo

How did seven not get picked up by an Americas vct org this dudes cooking

Derke faking into c site of haven was funny as fuck

It's likely that bbl only signed a 1yr contract with the pcific players to get them through ascension they will have to part from their partnership if they make vct due to conflict of interest and fair play if pcific can't afford to run the team for the vct year then likely another org will have to take their slot with those players

It varys from one org to another some will make it so all tourney winnings go to the org or a % of it does others will say the team players and coach get it, most of the time the coaches and players will split it evenly amongst them

Lol the next excuse 🤣 give up

Your talking about the time it took place sentinels won masters around the same time but I guess youll class that as tier 2 valorant now

Wow so not even your precious sentinels master win counts then ?? Honestly dude they were pro then as much as they are pro now things evolve metas change it's called life you'll learn that one day dumb ass

Massively I would think and yet people don't recognise that as an achievement to reach 3 gf

Fake fan in my opinion probably use the excuse "I ment since franchising" blah blah blah

....so acend don't exist ..

Is Ethan and som talking about retirement too ???

Yeah I thought I heard he was making champs his last run with fnatic wouldn't surprise me if he does retire but he would stupid to not take a coaching role with no disrespect to bonkar but boaster is a better version of that guy as a player and quite possibly a coach the way his brain works

Boaster is the most underrated igl and it's a huge shame people clown on him he's a true leader passionate and cares his achievements will be incredibly hard to replicate with the amount of finals he has reach with so many iterations of rosters he's played in I mean the dude made grand finals back when he was in sumn FC before fnatic picked them up this guy is the goat of valorant

Totally agree both played amazing nrg finally got their shit together by the end of the season and fnc were just unfortunate not to win any trophy's this year both played brilliantly

I think that's boasters goal for a feeling he will retire after this champs especially with a win

Vlr is insufferable regardless of team it's the biggest bragging rights lol any one who is just realising this must be living under a rock