Yeah let's agree to disagree, but no, that point it's also wrong it's already confirmed that orgs can apply at at least 2 regions, just like it's confirmed G2 has applied in both EMEA and NA. Obviously it's up to Riot to decide where they wanna let them be since they can't have both tho

We are obviously talking about regions with direct slots to Masters, obviously Kr is better than any of the EMEA subregions, most of the APAC subregions or LAN for example

1 FPX can't be considered CIS just because of their roster, this is 4 years, they literally could disband and sign anything else and then you're definitely killing the region viewership forever. So yes, Navi it's a lock for me

2 No, G2 is not a german org, I doubt Germans feel more identified with them than any other Eu country, G2 is europe

3 Ofc Heretics is not necessary but would definitely be more beneficial for the league than FPX, just like another Turkish team

4 They definitely count CIS, they have to, specially if it's with an org NAVI, who can bring many people from CS. And DACH they have to if they don't wanna have empty crowds trough out the whole league yk

Well, you still need a CIS representative, so NAVI is going in too that leaves us 2. Imo BIG is going in, remember the league is more likely gonna be in Berlin so they kinda have to (Heard rumors it might be in Barcelona too, Riot people has been looking for places)

So 1 spot left, is that spot gonna be FPX? Honestly idk could be, but I really think it’s much better to give that spot to either another Big Turkish org or maybe another Spanish one, might be biased but Heretics it’s almost as huge as KOI (Second twitch viewers world record with 2.4M, just behind KOI).

This is my whole point, Rito has much better options

Lol, good job man

Cause they have relations with Riot from Lol basically, but they are not gonna make it any further. BBL is making it, and not because of their money, because of their fans

You must have had a heart attack during that game

Again, I’ve never said it doesn’t make sense to them. I’m talking about Riots perspective, at the end, they have the choice not FPX, and that move is shooting their own foot from a business perspective and for the well of Valorant

How so, he choked on Jp too

Cause if they were the only Turkish team, do you really think Turkish wouldn’t watch it?

Ofc they will win fans with time, the problem is they are good now, but this is gonna be 4 years long my friend, if their roster gets washed up, what’s left

Money > fans??????? Sure look at the LEC lol literally just G2 and FNC have fans at all, and that’s why no one wants to watch it

It’s not bad for them, is not what I’m saying. It’s bad for Riot who should look to maximize their viewership

The problem is they might not have a few more games

That is not true and has been said by everyone. If they only cared for me not they would have done like in Lol where you need to buy the spot. I think you’re very wrong my friend but we’re just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one my friend.

But as a last MAD Lions it’s just as Spanish or as G2 is lol, and no that’s not why they haven’t made it cause Giants and Heretics have. And if you think Big doesn’t have a chance you’re also delusional, let me remind you the event it’s either gonna be in Berlin or Barcelona

Because the go from being one of the biggest orgs with the most fanbase in their country to being a middle org with absolutely no fanbase in EMEA

Riot would literally be shooting their foot if they do it

“You are delusional if you think the most important requierement is having a big fanbase and representing a large community“ “ they wont get a spanish org, a french one, a british one, a german one, a turkish one, a CIS one, nordic one, etc... ”

And you procede to say that KOI, KCORP, BBL, Vitality, NAVI are gonna get in which is basically all those countries but Britain which is already represented by FNC and Germany which I don’t discard Big gets in

Explain me what has happened with Mad Lions then, don’t they have just as good of a relationship with Riot than FPX? But still rn literally Fire Flux has a bigger chance of getting in than them. Do you think the fact that they have 0 fanbase is not a factor at all?

He can flex all he wants, and he is a great second caller

It is a 4 year partnership my friend. And I’m not saying they shouldn’t give them a spot, I’m saying give it in Asia, just like G2 wasn’t allowed to move to LCS at the start of Lol

No, they don’t meet every requirement the MOST important requirement is having a big fanbase and a representing a large community in the region. Then comes being stable economically and then comes relationship with Riot. They don’t meet the most important requirement

I actually see it very likely my friend, it’s either them or M3C imo

It’s not about them bro, it’s about Riot. Why tf would they wanna keep them here, they have 0 fanbase, and yeah, they have a good roster now, but they can’t judge by current rosters cause this is for 4 years. If they lose the roster or gets washed up. Then you have an org with a shitty team and no fanbase. Plus who are they even representing?

I’m from Uzbekistan and my favorite team is M3C

G2 just doesn’t work anymore that’s a fact. And mixwell might be one of the causes, but definitely not cause he is a bad player.

If any Spanish team makes franchising, then is more oMixwell decision if he wants to join than the own team, cause they are signing him 1000% for sure

No, It’s not, quality of the current roster is not a factor at all rn. If not tell me why Acend and GUILD are already discarded and teams like Giants, or even Istambul Wildcats lol, still have a chance

You’re saying it like it they haven’t just kept him this long without franchising too

I doubt it

I don’t think Riot has spots assigned, or at least that’s not how it works in EMEA. Every major region gets at least 1 representative and then the rest of the spots it’s up to the orgs, simply the best orgs possible that haven’t been chosen yet from wherever they are from

My point is, they have no fanbase here at all, I don’t really think Riot should let them stay, meanwhile in China they are absolutely huge, and would benefit a lot a growing scene

The Headhunter can’t have that equip time

Who said there’s only one china spot?

Yess

It would be stupid staying in EMEA for franchising, should really go back to Asia, is where their fanbase is. So my question now is, can NAVI pick Ange1 and the boys up?

NAVI should drop their entire roster and sign FPX, since I don’t think they are gonna make franchising here

I do think it’s very likely

They really can't accept it huh

Klaus, Nzr, Saadhack, Bnj

I will say it again, you're problem is not that what you're saying it's wrong, your problem is that you can't see what your own people's mistake

Ofc they are, it has already been confirmed they are disbanding if they don't make champs

Would you care to explain the context

You still haven't answered his question

Please

Jady

https://www.vlr.gg/126621/zmjjkk-name-meaning

No one ever said he wasn't toxic, there is still to be proven any of the other accusations where there isn't evidence anywhere

Okay good, that's a progress my friend, well done. He was toxic that's a fact and you're right, and I think deep down other than your passion for Mwzera your takes regarding everything else are actually way better than what people think. I also think you're coherent with yourself, you hate Keznit, but not Lev, just like you hate for example xand.

It is, but the not dumbos need to defend yourselves. Every time I see someone saying something that doesn't help the teams and players I support I tell them to stop, like idk, Spanish fans hypping mixwell up or defending his spot on the team atp yk. Do something if you want respect

See, everyone is being nice to you on this one. You need to understand the context of things, once a situation is serious people is good here and can help you

I do think you're right. I think the problem with Brazilians is that the delusional ones stand out a lot, and there are many of them. You and the nondelusional ones should reply to them and correct them, make yourself notice

How does that include any type of raze? He is not Brazilian your good