Do we know why the forfeited?

• Loud played 14 matches before getting to masters

• they are closest to a super team a region has had so far.

• I am pretty sure the tea, was already made while before they started playing official matches.

• 100t is nowhere close to a super team, people actually shit on them of getting bad players

• the org had complete player AND STAFF overhaul.

• the team was made pretty recently before the vct. For example, on reports came in that 100t was doing a rebuild with hiko leaving and Ethan’s status unknown on April 2 - vct was end of April . So they had about 27 days to actually make the roster, then get a coach, and then figure out roles and then figure out map pool.

I missed when teams played raze on this map, glad knights are doing it. I still believe that raze is a really good pick on the map with chamber. Let’s see if it still as good as I remember

I mean the last qualifier they with a sub, and now they are playing with wippie who they haven’t been able to practice with for a while, but I still don’t understand how they have this big of down from 5-0 groups. Sadge

Question, with the teams for the stage 2 emea challenges already decided, what will these teams be doing? Isn’t their vct year pretty much over, or am I missing something. Like I know they Will play in regional leagues, but what will that qualify them for?

Bruh what. Sen’s map pool is absolute dog unless they some got 20x better in a week. Their map pool is literally just a really really good bind, good haven, and a good ascent. Bind will be banned by 100t, which means sen’s pick will most likely be haven, because 100t’s haven hasn’t been promising. Also sen has been banning icebox, and honestly 100t seem decent on it. So matter what they ban or how fucked 100t picks are, they literally can not be a 2-0.

I highly suggest taking matches in open qualifies with a pinch of salt. Unlike the main events, teams don’t know who they will face. This is usually results in teams focusing more on their strengths then try to counter strat which often results in matches being messy. We still don’t know what tsm is like when they will have time to prepare against an opponent. Same with faze.

It means they play really good online but are really bad on lan

Wasn’t it like 3 games a day, 6 games a week?

Edit: sorry it was 2 games a day, 6 games a week

what? the best teams on split rn dont run viper ?
optic doesnt run viper

i mean i am 100t fan, but tsm isnt that bad, also u have to understand that 100t are coming into this match hot while tsm is cold

maybe but i would say a majority of teams have moved away from viper on split, and very few teams play cypher

maybe, but so many teams have done good on defense against 100t. the other day one team had a 8-4 half on defense and lost it. and they had no viper or cypher

lmao, their defense is wayyyyyy better, its just tsm sucks at split

How you gonna say drx, tL, v1 is inconsistent and then have g2 up there ?
As far as I know g2 is probably the most inconsistent top tier team. Liquid is only one that comes close and that’s also because they keep trying weird shit,a do even then they were only one match away from qualifying.

Sova main?

is there way they choose whoch team gets to ban first? Bc i looked through previous matches and the team that was already in the lower bracket first always got the ban first But in optic vs zeta, optic got to pick ban first. So how does it worrk??
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Whatever man, both teams are good, let’s just hope for a good match.

Well this could be the case. I just thought zeta would win because they feel more comfortable. Also, all three teams optic beat don’t really play fracture. And the wins they do have on the map is either against bad teams or subpar teams where they win close games,

Edit: loud also beat nip on fracture very close 13-11, so you argument isn’t very valid

You are right. Both teams are amazing and what you said is very possible. Only reason I didn’t go with this is because zeta’s icebox seem very reliant on player doing really good.

The zeta when they beat nip is very different to the the current zeta. Also I did say that zeta wins this based on comfortability. Optic only pick fracture when they have to compared to zeta who actively try to pick it. Maybe optic wins this, who knows

You right but I did this based on what optic have been picking. As far as I can see, optic have been favoring picking icebox over haven.

Yo have you seen both teams play fracture? I am sorry but zeta look wayyyy better than optic do on fracture. But I do agree that it can be closer than what I initially said

I wanted to see the chances of each team winning based on stats and this is my analysis. It could be totally wrong and can have some bias towards zeta bc i want them to win.
All stats used will be based on this tournament.

Maps: Bind, Haven, split, ascent, icebox, Breeze, Fracture.

Zeta will most likely ban Ascent
Optic will most likely ban Breeze
Zeta will most likely Pick Fracture
Optic will most likely Pick Bind
Zeta will most likely Pick Split
Optic will most likely Pick Icebox
Haven will most likely Remain

Fracture - Both teams have a 100% win rate on fracture this tournament. But I think Zeta win this because they feel more comfortable compared to optic who only pick it when they pretty much have to.

Bind- Optic should win bind, but zeta is actually not that bad on this map so they could win this, but i say Optic wins this kinda close: 13-8/9 close

Split- On paper, zeta should win this, but they will have a hard time because of optic's comp which has a kayO that will counter their mid setup. This is a coin toss map, but I am gonna say zeta wins- a very close match.

Icebox- This is another map that both teams are good at. Optic should win this, but if laz and dep put on a very good performance, the series could end here 3-1 in favor of Zeta. But on paper, optic wins this.

Lat map Haven - Optic are really good on this map compared to zeta, but optic has been banning this recently. Unless optic changed their haven comp, zeta wins this because i think they will come into this very prepared.

Zeta wins 3-2.

Other possibilities:
I think fracture and bind are pretty straightforward unless both teams have some hidden strats since both teams actually didn't get the chance to play these 2 maps that much.
In my opinion, split and icebox are going to be very close. If optic wins split, it could be 3-1 for optic but if not, zeta could beat optic on icebox to win 3-1. Otherwise, it goes to haven.
I stated that zeta wins, but it's gonna be hard because optic feel much more comfortable on haven.

Also, I think I am going to be completely wrong and zeta or optic is gonna win 3-0 lmao.

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no way u said that the other regions dont talk shit. I would say other than apac, and japan, all the other regions talk shit

If they add kanpeki, sick will most likely playing smokes while kanpeki plays flex and chamber. Do you guys think it is waste putting sick on smokes instead of getting a cracked smokes player? Or will the role not hinder him?

ghost gaming is gonna make some waves this next vct

Why would location affect viewership when there is no crowd? Genuinely curious. And even if there was crowd why would people just stop watching the event because it’s in a certain country? Am I missing something?

Ok, emea definetly didn’t come into this with full showing but like… g2 was their second seed? Why is that ignored? M3c didn’t qualify, so what do you mean? And I know they would have had a lot of mental stuff going on but that’s not a good excuse. Fnatic fpx, and g2 were the better teams hence why they qualified. The only team that got fully fucked is fnatic bc they performance decreased by a large margin. I am also not a big fan of the fpx narrative that they were like 1000 times better than the other emea teams and would have easily beat the other inter nations teams. I do think that fpx would have better showing and could have made top 4, but this mega copioum imo

true, i did say "might"

sureeeeee

zeta might just eliminate all 3 emea teams....

Pretty high actually, g2 is been looking pretty lost. Unless they somehow found form they have high chance of losing

It’s bc yay never sprays, and if you don’t spray, ads is actually good, especially with how good is aim is

you said it yourself, "in theory". Having an lcq confirms who is the third best team and gives a chance to the teams that might have had a rebuild. ex: like c9. They definetly werent the 3rd best team before lcq, but they won it

I know right, I support NA, but I think emea should have an extra slot just because of the size of it. I usually consider size and population more than competitiveness, and 3 slots is not enough for cis, eu, and tr combined

Well, we don’t know who is the third best team, that’s why we have a lcq?

Champions slots was already released
https://twitter.com/liquipediaval/status/1486737568020373512?s=21&t=GESFV94VyuHLeUmLphLtxw

It’s 2 NA, 1 NA lcq
2 emea, 1 emea lcq
1 Brazil, 1 latam, 2 south American lcq.
1 korea, 1 Japan, 2 sea. Lcq will be split into south and north. North is Korea and Japan and possibly China if they can play. South is sa, sea, and oce. Each with one slot.

Champions slots was already released
https://twitter.com/liquipediaval/status/1486737568020373512?s=21&t=GESFV94VyuHLeUmLphLtxw

It’s 2 NA, 1 NA lcq
2 emea, 1 emea lcq
1 Brazil, 1 latam, 2 south American lcq.
1 korea, 1 Japan, 2 sea. Lcq will be split into south and north. North is Korea and Japan and possibly China if they can play. South is sa, sea, and oce. Each with one slot.

I think all of their players might have been poached? Both zeta and cr took the players really fast, and I also think they might have disbanded since seoldammwanted to be a content creator. But apparently he is coming back to pro play,

Wait anybody know what happened to order? It Looks likes 2 of their players left?

whats the use of skrossi being so hyped? cant even make it to lan

interesting bc what i said is not false and one of the players did say this in a interview, so i guess the management was thinking of changing stuff

i am pretty sure they said in a interview that they werent gonna change anything even if they didnt get to go to iceland

I dont think they need to replace anybody because their loss felt more of team diff then a player diff. But if you really really want to get new players rather then fixing all the mistakes and shit, i would want to see baddyG for link and molsi for soulcas. But i really dont think a player is a problem

True

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/5d6c6f86

I also, mods can we split the playoffs and group stage pickems, so we can see who has the best pick em’s for each

Hahaha, not mine
https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/5d6c6f86

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