At the end of the day that's what it always is. I tried to cope when boom took a map off optic but it's literally down to one player with insane mechanics dismantling the defensive line.

Tell me you're iron without telling me you're iron

100t would beat any of the EMEA teams other than FNC and Navi

Yea of course it does cause if you have 100 cannons but only 1 operator you still only have the firepower of a single cannon. I do believe and agree that dephh made mistakes. I also think sykko and the staff aren't playing to their strengths and they're trying to play "proper" valorant. However I don't think that the igl in this case would've changed much against FNC. I think FNC were just a different beast and that they just had an answer to everything Sen did. Sen definitely adapted quite a bit but I don't think they're comfortable with each other yet that they can all contribute and make each other play better off simple chemistry.
It's a long process and they'll get there but they definitely don't need to drop dephh

No prx weren't having aim problems, they just fr threw by solo peeking everything. Usually they're really compact and aggressive as a team which they didn't do against c9. At a certain point they just looked like they didn't care and started peeking everything solo and throwing away until

No I think they Def have 100t. 100t are a lot less solid compared to loud and Lev and to a certain extent nrg. I feel like Sen would be able to compete with nrg in the long run but I could see a 100t (old) v Sen situation where Sen can never beat nrg but they're always right behind in second place

How did c9 look better to you? I need someone to explain to me cause people are fr seeing phantom plays or some shit. Ain't nothing happen with C9 bro they're just ok. They clearly aren't a superteam with the way they were humiliated by drx

Idk if NRG would've won tho against FNC. They probably would've taken a map away maybe cause their veto would be a bit less in favour of FNC.
I think rn Sen is majorly competing for second place with 100t, c9 are competing with eg imo in 4th and 5th (cough cough EG are way better).
If we're talking Americas I think it's a no-brainer that loud and Lev take top 2 spots but yea I definitely agree that Sen are in a bad spot.

Bro calm down c9 looked disastrous against drx and drx aren't even as clean and tight knit as FNC
C9 are hella overrated not even gonna lie

I love this dude 🤣
Bro fr spewed misinformation and thought no one would realize, was abt to check so thx for this.
I think ppl are really underrating dephh but for the wrong reasons. I get that he isn't a fragging igl and whatever idrc, but the issue is that on xset he was only IGLing HALF the maps. So only on atk (I'm p sure ayrin was Def), and idk how it's gonna play out in the long run considering it seemed like Sen only had good attack halves.
Shame to see so many people hate on him but I get the worry cause theres only 1 masters this year and it's gonna feel like another wasted year if Sen dont prove themselves as fast as they can manage.
If they don't qual from masters, lcq is gonna be a brutal fight for the last spot.

When Steelhas better stats then you then you know it's a problem

Stax is cracked fragging bro. He puts up numbers all the time on drx as the igl more than any other igl

I don't think Jessie is honestly. TL definitely made TS look a lot more flattering

Yea they're going for the long term solution which I don't hate but it's just sad that we still need to wait even longer to see Sen succeed

He's been calling rlly well on g2. He's a great igl and he did well in the lcq, ppl are so blinded by their hate for him istg.

TG already almost lost to Sen without prac. If you think picking them up over this roster is an upgrade then you're blatantly biased

If he isn't IGLing there's no reason for him on the team, just pick dapr back up or smth or hell have sick play sentinel (tho don't put him on controller)

Sacy isn't an igl tho idk why people keep saying this. It's like saying put dapr on igl. Just cause they co igl doesn't mean they can do it full time.

Not 2nd best but that definitely means that they went against the best team in the tourney off the get go without being able to build up chemistry with each other like NRG did

Thing is tho dephh was only IGLing every half. So it might be a weakness. We saw Sen had a pretty good attack on both maps (even tho the score doesn't say it on haven) but their defence was rlly weak. Im p sure ayrin was their defence side igl so maybe it's a weakness that dephh has that sykko didn't account for.
I think Sen played good enough to show that any other team and they would've put up an insane series but too bad it was FNC

I definitely think they at the very least played acceptable tho. They have insane firepower that they had good halves on both maps. I don't remember which of ayrin or deph igled on defence on xset but it seems like sens attack is pretty decent but their defence is rlly weak. If it was ayrin IGLing then I guess we know what the weakness is and if that really is the case and dephh doesn't do well going forward, they should definitely look at switching out their weakest link

Yea dephh wasn't great in that game but to be fair they're going against the most powerful team we've seen in valorant so far.
How is he gonna outaim the likes of chronicle derke Leo and Alfa? I think it's asking a bit much for his first series with the team.
Theyll comeback better and they showed minimal strats so for ltr on in the season they'll still be hard to anti

If cursed as in unlucky yea, they're the only team thats ever got shafted this hard in the history of valorant.
They were forced to go against the greatest team valorant has ever seen in a single elim tourney with 0 vods to review. Tf were they supposed to do?

Zekken was put on an uncomfortable role, should've swapped with sacy.
I think dephh is definitely a huge weak point but again they went against FNC like what can we say. FNC are probably gonna start a dynasty dude
Sen definitely will be top contenders in NA all the players are already saying so

C9 definitely aren't competing at all. They couldn't even be competitive against DRX

It's I'd say in this order
Loud
Lev
Nrg
100T
Sen
EG
C9
Kru
Mibr

C9 won against a throwing team and got MOPPED by DRX.
Sen put up a rlly good half on both maps against a team that is probably gonna be the first true dynasty of valorant.

Sen are obviously better than EG. Theyre most likely better than C9 as well. I'm still convinced c9 rlly weren't that great but we saw them against a throwing prx and a stomping drx so we didn't rlly see anything.
Sen were also defeated by the likely winners of this tourney. There was 0 change for Sen here

Tf you on, c9 weren't that good at all, prx just were throwing. Drx also weren't trying at all on pearl they all had poker faces which isn't the regular drx

You're trolling right?
I guess I just gotta love in a world with braindead people and that's how it is

They have 2 of the best players in the world. They literally CANT lose

That's the thing. FNC have always been the best team at so many points but they just never get the job done. I'm still convinced that if FNC were able to play in Iceland, they would've won

Where are the 3? I don't see them

No I'd say loud are most likely better than Sen. Tho honestly FNC could just be a different dimension of team completely and we'll have to see how they do in this tourney

did you see that just now?

Well yea idk why tf you'd assume anything else

I honestly don't know. I feel like zekken would do better on Skye and sacy on a comf role like breach

You can watch them, they're all running in except yay and xeppa who were the only 2 people that looked like they were taking it hard.
Vanity leaf and (less so but still applies) zellsis were just throwing by blindly running onto site

Uhuh... That is so obviously the least likely reason, we invented contracts for a reason

It's crazy how you get thrown into an echochamber of people disagreeing with you when you comment anything on certain platforms. I'm glad some ppl have a brain

Exactly, you wouldn't call a team of ascendants world class just cause they beat silvers but again it doesn't deny the fact that they're on the better side of the pool of players (in this case TS are on the better side of the tourney so far)

I think they're good don't get me wrong, I just think ppl are overrating them because of how bad TL were. I'm amazed they were able to comeback from the huge hole they dug themselves into the past year but they only look so impressive because of that fact.
So imma hold out on calling them a great APAC team and watch their match against Navi first

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I can't believe people are arguing, yall are the only copers, literally all of EMEA apart from Navi and probably FNC have disappointed in this event.
The fact that only KC probably one of the bottom 15 teams in this tourney were the ones that made the second round just shows how much of a disappointment EMEA are.
The others had harder matches but they should not have lost in the fashion they all did.

"A bit" is hella slander against them. They played great idk why you gotta take away from it

Bro you embarrassed yourself so hard here. Maybe should've taken your time to double read

Ita hilarious how you're the one coping right now. You know edg would slap all the EMEA teams so far other than Navi.

The only reason you guys are trying to add 100t is cause y'all overestimated them. Sean was 50% of their success, without him they're just an A tier team

Is it possible to be disrespectful to Indians?

Brazilians are different ☠️

Don't ever express a serious opinion on vlr esp right after a match cause this is what happens