Occasionally you get a constructive criticism on how G2 plays, but more often than not it's always something outside the game that's how you know the community hates G2 for no reason

ain't gonna lie I'm slowly becoming a G2 supporter now lol

G2's insults always center around the players' looks, weights , fans etc.... Isn't this just too personal from vlr?

Cmiiw but they only dominate Tekken and its not even full domination.

"Asian century" bullshit+ League. Imo both are the root cause of this type of doomerism

I would rather people just stop complaining about crowds lol. If Tokyo is happening rn people would just complain " crowd is boring , no bias at all".

People just love to complain about everything

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Apparently it slows down everything cmiiw

Do you actually think all Thai people looked like Lisa or have east Asian features?

Nah that's SEA

It will hurt tho, FAV and IGZIST are prime examples. SG is an exception.

There is no incentive except riot giving financial incentives at all, fans don't really care about developing talent, so there's no push for that.

Developing talents is a losing game. Why waste resources when you can just imports who are ready for tier 2 ( even this can be argued to not be the case). In fact, the way the scene works punishes you for doing that by simply making you lose towards those who signed proven talents or imports.

Incentives could work, but that assumes that all orgs have the goodwill and aligned in their self interest, clearly that's not what happen here. what VCJ really need is hard law ( as in changing the rules), which is why I'm keep pushing for reducing the import slot to 1 or just abolish that rule.

That's not a loophole, that's just what import rule is , I would love to call them a loophole tho 😂 but it's not.

Marin retired and Flora is a good shot but you have Ken on the team and I prefer not getting another korean again.

But yeah I just watched WEC history I think if they slip up and RRX keep winning from now on, they can win premier

Yeah I saw it, on the other hand Luckynana didn't play against RRX, which is a shame because I want to see how he plays against stronger opponents.

Either way, WEC and especially BB are very likely to win premier

Take leaves REJECT

GC:
R4M leaves Reignite

Yeah hope they can finally put their scouting to good use

Fr, on side tangent people have been complaining about Twitter being political or whatever, but all I'm getting is just vtuber stuff lol

It will hurt, but it's better in the long run

I still remember how orgs were replacing Chinese players with imports 1 or 2 weeks before ascension started

That or just reduce the import slot.

There's no loophole at all, except Sc0rz most orgs in vcj are not breaking any rules at all, however, compliance doesn't necessarily mean that orgs are acting on the long run interest of the community.

CGZ released Kapi and Brofeld

Delight signed :

RyinG ( analyst )
oft0nn ( coach )

I only gave my "technical" perspective on why it happened but ultimately I was detached from the conversation lol

Part of the reason why I'm told there are many imports on the scene is orgs need to stay "competitive" in order to win ascension. This is not good.

This is a problem with VCJ because all of the current teams in main stage have a decent enough resource to develop domestic talents, but most chose to not do it.

If there are 4 poor orgs and 4 rich orgs, the poor orgs will have their hands tied and having no choice but to scout domestic players while I can shit on rich orgs for being stupid in the long run 😂.

Essentially, being rich and all made most orgs in VCJ complacent and lazy

This is important because I've suggested how riot could lose japan in the long run

https://www.vlr.gg/450471/koreans-on-japanese-orgs-are-bad-business#top

( replace the word Korean with imports )

Depends on the size and well being, each region will receive different impact imo. From what I can see, VCJ has been and will be made a loser from this franchise system in the long run

More like Faker and LPL

Even if that's true, #4

I agree that Riot is a control freak, user generated content could save Riot money

It couldn't compare to the money made from Steam.

I mean it's true that Fl1pz started ragebaiting first. His insult seemed personally aimed towards tenten (iirc). Doesn't make Tenten right tho.

Something that I never saw in discussions regarding Riot vs Valve in terms of how they handle esports is
their income source.

Valve's income source comes from Steam, not CS or Dota, there wasn't any pressure for Valve to implement franchise system compared to Riot.

Riot earns money through Skins and other in game purchases, simply put League and Valorant ( to a lesser extent ) are what keeping them as big as they are. Knowing this it's easy to see why Riot implemented franchise system.

That said, I hate franchise system. I will explain why in my next thread

AC:

Solluzy and yvy left ZETA AC

Riot isn't even the problem imo, you're doing business in Asian countries where these kinds of behavior are common, that's just the "risk" of doing business here.

Idk about intentional tho, Riot are doing their activity in East Asian countries and countries like Thailand. Those countries even without Riot intentional marketing will attracts fangirls sooner or later, that's just how they are.

At the end of the day, it's the orgs themselves that choose how to market themselves. Riot only cares about the skins.

Idk abt cringe, but it would be either naive or you're just new to esports to think that other games don't attract toxic people. It's a competitive game.

you could've just said Valo attracts more female fans than male fans, but you had to say man are associated with smoking gambling and shittalking..

It's as simple as somewhere along the line, riot's marketing strategy intentional or not started to attract those kinds of people instead of the intended ones.

Sounds like vlr 😂

Ehhh pls not too far 😂😂.

There's a reason why I'm still here, I'm only interested in keeping the scene( mostly just VCJ) alive and growing.😂

Got downvoted for the truth 😂😂

I mean you're still lucky that you want to talk about matches and you're likely to find someone like yourself.

I would gladly entertain people who would discuss on how to run a scene . But alas, this is esports forum not an economic forum 😂.

Glad to see you follow it up, at first I thought you only said 👍 which implies you agreed with him 💀

You're the type of people that would start smoking because your friends called you a sissy for not doing so 😂

I saw the crash out lol, my first impression of him was he's very confused ( as in very naive ) but at least he got the spirit, but now he's just stupid lol

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Zan left BB

It's all about the matchups I think but Murash really needs to step it up because if either Absol or TENNN stops shooting the whole team is going down lol.

I'm still active ✋️

I would like to see crest and especially Sc0rz go down, they are helping other region more than japan just by existing 😂😂😂

I need SG and Murash to win, Murash has Absol and really drives viewrship, and SG seemed like redeemed themselves by picking domestic talentlike kippei who's way too young to tier 2 standards.

After looking at the format, I agree, we will be having same conversation soon lol

Speaking of formats, holy shit who tf created them, only 2 premier teams qualifies to advance stage, might as well tell riot to turn vcj into franchise system

The way I see it advance stage format like this will only cause complacency, as if the orgs themselves are not complacent enough with gazillion imports on the scene