Eh, rise is good, tsm literally just let andbox defuse the spike, c9 just got caught off guard, tsm took 38 rounds to finally qualify for challengers.

I don't need to worry about my team cuz they don't throw like tsm

They won't win a game in the main event tho :)

Thats almost half, I dont think thats almost everything, just most things.

Regardless Cned is still better at oping, theres just no arguing that. We're talking about an oper on a team that has no points for vct and is about to be out for the rest of 2021. And the oper and star player for the team that has won masters 1 and is currently on the best team in eu.

I though it was absolute jupiter?

Lmao

How?

They are but literally everyone on sentinels is like a top 10 na player besides zombs

I would say Sen is currently the best until Masters 3. There we will know. I also think G2 and Gambit will be good. FPX should be good but they do choke a lot so im not sure.

Nth has seoldam though and he is obviously going to increase your viewership.

NA is definitely better, but that doesn't mean they will be in the future, but at that the moment they definitely are.

Brimstone gaming fans are the best

I'm on the c9 discord and they all kinda hate him for it. I personally don't care and still enjoy watch tenz play, but there are a lot of c9 fans who don't like tenz for what he did.

True

100T is a contender, Sen has a lot of fans because they still fans from every team because they are the best in na. G2 and TSM are the other 2.

I would consider it more like dota where they have majors (Masters), and then there's TI (Champions).

Thats why they are saying prime astralis.

Sentinels?

They were only really successful in fortnite and halo though and halo is non-existent and fortnite is dying so they were stil only tier 2. Definitely not tier 3 though thats like noble or some shit.

Shahz, SicK, and tenz were not very good true, but dapr was up and coming but switched to valorant because na cs was and is still dying.

This has been said so many times its just dumb. He's not steel or shahzam but this is just the most retarded idea. Scream is more aim no brain.

A brazillian player named kng in cs threatened fns i think, don't know the whole story though.

The worst that could happen is they fall off and tenz just starts carrying them like he did c9 and their whole game plan revolves around him but that won't happen.

Sen keeps losing first map then win next 2 theyre kinda just trolling. Even if they go to lowers they'll still win the tourney happens every time.

Shahzam is at least top 10 imo, maybe top 5 instead of mwzera because his team hasn't really done much.

Yes but its basically navi.

V1?

I can't find more than 5.

The phantom is definitely better on ascent. You will get a lot of kills through smokes on that map. Along with that in mid, the phantom is just as powerful. Due to better accuracy and spray it can actually be better in mid because you will hit a lot more body shots unlike the vandal. Unless you hit a headshot the phantom will beat the vandal in mid on ascent.

I think they provide a lot of different things. If you were to create a team I would take shahzam over tenz only because there are not many players that have what shahzam provides. He is easily the best team player which there are not many players who provide as much. On the other hand, Tenz is arguably the best duelist player along with cned and asuna so he is not as unique.

It's also unfair to them because they always have a sub.

I just realized this thats kind of a crazy thought, that would be cool.

this is true, asuna has to do much more while tenz doesn't. Shaz discourages tenz from trying to make insane plays. When tenz was on c9 he played a lot more like asuna on 100t.

Vanity and Penny should've just given up and let Asuna get 50

100T would be so good with effys instead of hiko its not even funny. They need the EFFYS CLUTCH, Hiko outdated.

That's fine.

Alright, I'm sure you know what you are talking about.

I had meant to reply to your comment with that but vlr glitched so i just said fuck it, but yeah, wardell cant carry.

Everyone thinks you have to like or hate a player or think one is way better than the other. No one on this site can give respect to any pro player that's successful.

True.

I think atm you can argue cned is a better oper, but tenz has next level rifling. They're pretty much at the same level. If one is better it's probably not by much.

Tenz sucked in cs and was practically a no name and hes the best in na and arguably the world atm.

At this point you can say the same about cned. It's just easier to say that about tenz because he has a bigger following. Even though the amount of people saying these things about tenz is probably the same as for cned. It doesn't take a lot of people for it to be annoying, it just takes a couple of loud fanboys and trolls to get your attention.

Personally I think these 3 are all mostly on the same level, I think Derke is the weakest of the 3 and we'll have to wait and see if cned or tenz is better at berlin assuming acend makes it.

Might have something to do with how our team is doing well, but maybe not the best team.

nah, thats c9's bracket

There's not really that many TenZ fanboys, its more or less a couple of loud kids trying to be controversial and being dumb.

SSG had boostio who's insane, also everyone knows tenz was practically carrying and the other players hadn't found their stride in the game yet.

C9B and Version1 are good, Version1 just keeps getting screwed by having a sub but still manage to do well.