no fucking clue its a complete joke getting people even to not just have lost in agent select forget keeping them in the actual game
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no fucking clue its a complete joke getting people even to not just have lost in agent select forget keeping them in the actual game
Chamber
Rendevouz
Clove:
Not Dead Yet
that's it. it's one of the best ults in the game if used and coordinated correctly but the rest of the kit has little room for buffs because of ranked dominance. Makes there more of a reason to lean into and build around covering their weaknesses.
Harbor:
Cove
High tide
Cascade
Reckoning
Clearly they're not willing to make a one-sided slows so just remove the slow and give it a new effect that's more pure controller/initator focused than a sentinel overlap that doesn't really fit the agent design anyway. The high tide offset is required to enable him more freedom to play off his own abilities while still being able to use his abilites effectively, removing one of his biggest downsides that he has despite no way to compensate for such a weakness.
Reyna:
Dismiss
Devour -> [NEW]
her issue is just having too much less raw utility than other agents. also reply allat to this post if you kick puppies. Giving her a smoke allows her some survivability and is another ability to potentially set herself up for a kill or combo with leer to take a little bit of space herself once per round. Placement being directly location tied forces her to push to make best use of the ability.
Sage:
Skye:
Trailblazer
Guiding Light
Big buff but dog is already the weakest drone and so much power is missing from the kit. Creates a more defined identity for her after the flashes proved to be too versatile.
Tejo:
Salvo
The charges and range changes in 10.09 would already have fixed this ability on their own.
postplant issue is overblown with single charges, a single charge can be halved through if launched off tap and tanked after waiting the first pulse if not. You can very easily disrespect the ability when they can't stack them without saving util during and thereby weakening their site take.
Waylay
Refract
Lightspeed
Changes are intended to create a bit more of a window for aggressive play with refract and to reduce the staticness at the end of the dash slightly to balance situations where the dash can be read and punished, particularly through smokes, by tracing it's static trajectory, to be slightly less punishing for Waylay even when coordinated with teammate's abilities as intended.
Pheonix is good played well in the right maps and comps (Haven/Pearl and maybe Fracture/Sunset in particular) there was just no reason to use him in tejo meta unless you had role issues or players that couldn't yoru.
Viper likely still needs a proper fuel rework cuz of ranked/pro disparity.
Fade and Breach probably need a little something too but it's just numbers tweaks that you'd have to decide after everything else shakes out.
you can be pedantic and say rediscovered but 100T didn't exactly popularize it, and neither did later uses in T2. It wasn't until icebox came back again that many teams looked at it seriously.
PRX and EMEA basically have advantage on not needing to change shit much
and what's apeks' wincon if flor plays to die to set up governor and molsi every round instead of the reverse?
was all the way +12 until vyseult saw it surely all these votes are organic with no brigading
so woke
self report that he's right in the same comment is crazy
vyseult literally got suspended for a month for exactly open prejudice, this isn't exactly hidden knowledge.
for someone who was so exceptionally annoyed at people jumping to conclusions during the termi frost drama you really like doing exactly that.
what on earth is the correlation
if that is the intention and they've not buffed something else to compensate they're actually stupid this agent has been statistically the worst performer of any agent in pro since launch and they've done nothing but nerf him since like 3.05
tejo MAY be used on Icebox in double init otherwise he's just garbage, no recharge when the other changes already half the efficacy of each charge is crazy. Just give the recharge back and maybe add the extra cooldown that Viper abilities and in-range Breach aftershock have so he can't just back to back chain the singles
https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-10-09/
tl;dr:
tejo dead (like skye, who we seem to think is balanced 💀)
another random stun nerf for literally no reason
nothing else
thanks rito
It's likely especially since Korean viewership has apparently fallen off and the crowd is just bad + all the external factors.
My guess would be it'll come in with the franchising update though.
The newly discovered shit Omen can enable on Icebox defense side make not running him completely troll. Every icebox comp should be running Omen/Viper/KJ if you want to be taken even remotely seriously. The other two spots are very flexible though.
This second one hasn't been showcased but I'm like 80% on the best Haven comp post Tejo being Pheonix/Neon/Astra + ofc the standard Sova and Cypher. It checks all the boxes you need from a comp whilst still being able to do the defense/retake Ult cycling of the Iso comp, the aggression and setup hits of the Breach/Neon comp, and the lurk pressure and postplant boost of the Viper comps. It's definitely harder to pilot too, though.
you didn't have to do shit you just hate yourself as much as you do flor
he's good but the current roster can't afford to be flexible in their senti choice cuz they're playing engh and saadhak's recipes using unpopular agents in their flex spots on purpose.
If elite could play Vyse well it'd be fine, but he can't, so he's not right for current KC.
There's also like, 0 reason to not jump for Izana ASAP before the off-season when there'll be competiton for him.
None of this matters if they can't fix their midrounding though.
If their flex is always Yoru/Viper it'll be fine but
I'm not comparing zekken to kaajak in any other regard I'm pointing out your illogicality.
I mean yeah all the ones I watch often are small independents that also make asmr so
also that Sage is literally the duelist replacement on an icebox comp
nobody is calling zekken "not a duelist player" for playing Omen on the most unconventional map in the game
careful I did this and it ended with me getting into vtubers
it's good bait bro I'll give you that but you need to seriously find better things to care about.
vyseult is known for prior behavior, there's little point defending for him. Got 0 to do with the actual take, which is correct, but only because Aspas doesn't even bait, and isn't a big deal unless you're hunting for issues. Getting picked up by a team with a real shot first is actually important, not stats.
if they face G2 or PRX in finals its doable
Yes, but "Good" is not "Best in world". We'll see, but it wouldn't be too surprising to see them underperform having to mix it up for the first time this year.
only a couple teams can be considered objectively the best yeah that's kind of how that works. That doesn't mean they're the only ones capable of winning though does it.
it's impossible to bait with them saturating the market so much
get someone else to/who can midround cuz saadhak is a fraud on those even though his prerounds are good.
troll system go back to having everyone play everybody
new groups draw system sucks so they're in the group with RRQ DRX GENG NS
Derke is a system player. VIT needs a real igl who can keep egos in check with a proper system. Coaches are too ass to implement one though so gg.
they still have sponsorship by american army if you're looking for an excuse
I forgot the Neon that's just miniboo diff tbh, his comfort isn't Jett so he's destroying on Neon ez.
Icebox currently has two serious duelist options. Omen, who enables huge aggressive but safe playmaking and escape options on the weaker defense side that allows you to seriously fight for A, and Jett, who is the old meta and comfort pick.
There is no reason to learn Waylay Icebox unless you're doing a Waylay + Omen + KAY/O comp, which i don't think is bad persay but does sacrifice a lot for of time for only marginally better set plays than Jett + Omen + Sova (which only PRX is running) and worse comfort and survivability you probably want to support hero plays.
imo we've not gotten a proper good one yet, I've been waiting.
They didn't look good vs VIT either tbh VIT was just dogshit