Once upon a time C9 also signed an academy team for long term talent development hahaha
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Once upon a time C9 also signed an academy team for long term talent development hahaha
I think Ludwig sabotage will make it difficult for C9
Do we think this roster's going to make it through the off-season unchanged?
I want to hope they stay consistent but I'm pretty doubtful
LCQ he just farmed vs 100T and lost head to head vs leaf
Americas league Leaf had a 1.12 rating and Zekken had a 1.07, and Leaf farmed Zekken on head to head and made it further in the league
yes obviously, it's a head to head in an important match
Remind me which team+player won this game for 3rd place?
if he gets more flashes I'm never playing this game again in my life
Leaf has outperformed Zekken every single time they've played. If anything YOU'RE cherrypicking the only time Zekken went +1 rating
I don't care about agent balance, playing against this guy makes me want to throw my monitor out my window and switch to CS2
Leaf won and beat him in the head 2 head
also it's not just cherrypicking, let's look at every single game Zekken has played vs leaf
https://www.vlr.gg/77797/xset-vs-cloud9-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-lr3
Zekken 0.87 rating, Leaf 1.26 rating
https://www.vlr.gg/70059/xset-vs-cloud9-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-w2
Zekken 0.99 rating, Leaf 1.15 rating
https://www.vlr.gg/43776/cloud9-blue-vs-xset-champions-tour-north-america-last-chance-qualifier-lr3
Zekken 0.83 rating, Leaf 1.16 rating
How are you going to call cherry picking when he's genuinely never outperformed leaf in a head to head??
I think that Yoru's flash needs a moderate nerf to be honest
if you go against someone that knows all the weird angles on every map it's just fucked
Skill ceiling is so high
I love Yoru in pro play and can't stand it in ranked
every time in ranked I'm just flashed the whole game bc of this bs agent
Leaf was never a bad Raze, he just doesn't enjoy it because his sens is so low
in the early days of valorant he was one of the pioneers of a lot of raze double satchel routes we still see today
You can play haven without sova
Here you can see Loud beating fnatic on Haven without sova
Vanity has worked with Wippie, Immi, and Xeppaa before, and also done a much better job
They scrimmed with both
If Shahz is underrated and not Vanity, how come he wasn't able to get a spot on the team?
Stop letting your nostalgia bias you. Vanity is the better IGL
lost 8/9 of his most recent G2 games, disbanded team and went to content creation
Got kicked from sentinels for performance based reasons
yeah man phenomenal IGl you're right
so bizarre to me that C9 kicked mCE
it's still one of the worst decisions I can think of to make
I think that C9 will have depth with or without Shahzam, and that a good IGL is far more important than someone who went 1/8 in second split ascension with almost the same roster but had better stats
The only maps where having a Sova is mostly necessary are Breeze and Ascent(even Ascent C9 has been successful running Skye solo initiator)
You don't need Sova on any other map
You're saying that teams need a fragging IGL and bringing up FNC and NAVI?????????????????????????
yes bro for sure Ange1 best fragging igl
Shahz failing to use OXY and just setting himself up for kills is why G2 was so bad. Your IGL should set up your team, not the other way around
Teams with better depth don't tend to do better, the 2 best IGL's in the game, FNS and Boaster are often the worst rated on their team
Also, using Shopify vs G2 as reasoning shahz is better is stupid, with that logic Trick, babybay, fiziq, and mitch are better igls than shahz
Shopify Rebellion was garbage well before Vanity joined
he's the only reason they got as many wins as they did
your recency bias is insane. That singular game doesn't change a thing
I think Vanity is better as IGL, I'm not worried about mechanical.
Look at what happened last time Shahz played with OXY, immi, and Wippie💀
https://www.vlr.gg/238656/g2-disband-shahzam-moves-to-content-creation
Vanity clears so hard it's crazy
Vanity > Shahz
Sova not meta anymore
Vanity literally qual'd for an international event with wippie and immi
and in terms of IGL Vanity has been far superior after the first year of valorant
Vanity is extremely underrated
everyone's acting like he's dogshit but he's really not that bad
Vanity to C9 (both times)
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so glad Wanity's back in C9
He is 1257 edpi GOAT
most underrated player on the most underrated team
C9 will shock the world
I would like to formally apologize for all mean words about them for changing the previous roster (and kicking my boy leaf)
They may have a lack of funds, but they brought back the GOAT Vanity, and the young prodigy C9 LFT OXY
I'm fully on board with this project. Doubters leave, C9 will qual for international this year
none of my bullets go straight (partial skill issue but also feels awful)
switch to crosshair follow recoil. Makes everything way easier
guys scrims don't matter. C9 is just hiding strats
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