thats why i stay in the kitchen, i am not a forum cooker. my curry will make you experience true pleasure.

who do you think they sign with Kap. Cook for me.

Feel bad for Drew but now Potter can come in, probs not as an assistant but co-coach or something with Kap. You throw the bag at potter cause she can replace Kap if needed, also imagine what she could do with a competent org (at least more than EG LOL). I will be content if Jawg comes (which I don't see) or they land narrate.

-Though they could also land Chet or someone. Anyways who do you think they sign to coach with Kap.

1. Honest questions, I have seen many EU SEN fans. How come you guys are a fan of sen and not FNATIC?
2. What caused you to wakeup from your delusion and realize that SEN is the superior ream

woah this was a great call. Right maps, slightly off on who chose but this was great.

to be fair, G2 has always had a boring playstyle so this did not change much.

to be fair DRX chronically finish like 4th in events so I don't see them winning. I want sen to win but I want it to be close.

have noticed that too but he secures kills in most situations with body shots which is more important than getting a cool one tap.

I am 100% biased, but im man enough to admit it.

also my pickems: https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/cde7d75e

On the surface it looks bad but all these games are low key bangers. The worst game is probs the EDG game but a big positive, which I think outweighs the negative, is that you can not get regional teams knocking each other out unless its at minimum the lower round 2.

The lower-round games will be absolute cinema and I think seeing this many great teams in a do-or-die situation will make everything even more hyped. Regardless you were gonna get hard match ups. Also for anyone complaining about Sens bracket side, they legit get the worst brackets like every single event so I do not care. Also if they lose against a great DRX they legit get fcked.

Obvs another playoff bracket could be better but that's assuming you pick and choose perfectly enough for there to be no conflicts + no regional issues + give good matches. This is very very unlikely so this is unrealistic given the format and there should be no boring game.

What are your thoughts, also link your brackets below. I wanna see how mine compares to you guys too.

Do people already know generally what the playoff matches look like? I do not know how it will work but aren't certain teams only able to play like 2-3 different teams from the playoffs cause of the different rules put into place on how playoff matches work? For example, Sen can not play TH but I also read they can not play some other teams as well (for reasons i forgot).

So do people already have a rough idea of what the matches-up could look like or am I wrong?

I like the random draw but regardless I think Sen get the side of death and will have to go through a gauntlet cause of how their bad luck with placements is.

imagine they had narrate instead of verno or sacy. I would only imagine either scenario if sacy left tho, he meshes well and does his role well so hard to say whether verno or narrate would have a similar effect even if they are "better" players.

100% cause copium

Assuming they bomb out of champs, most likely. I think they should pick up Reduxx, Verno or someone else from T2. Zander for bang would be interesting too.

But Asuna is their poster child so idk. Boostio only gets dropped if he says/does somethings outrageous that makes nade shot dislike him. Otherwise he’s almost safe (assuming FNS is not interested + Boostio did something crazy).

If sen or g2 lose and then they proceed to lose to 100T are they out ? I know that sen has a lot of points but im not sure how much of a must win this game is for either team.

Any comments for clarification would be nice.

-ORG = sent
-media = sent
-controller = s0m
-sent = less
-flex = Jawg (i think he can play anything)
-IGL = JohnQt
-entry = aspas
Coach = Kaplan + Potter

-Fans = Sent
-owner = messi + Rob
-6th man = Tenz (have him watch party and rack in views)
-main watch party = tarik
-gf = scarlett johansson
-Dog = Yorkshire Terrier

I watched tarik watching ludwig, big difference smh

-therefore does it count as stealing his entire game, i think (probably) not.

Sen has a higher chance of qualifying than Drake does of recovering from this beef.

That being said, sen fans up, drake fans down.

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I may sound crazy, but in my opinion, its better for the team to not qualify for the championship. The cinderella story would be cool but they have played the most games from the off-season until now, which is causing them to burn out (as Zekken even mentioned). Therefore, having a month and a bit to reset, reinvent some of their map pool, agent pool and strategies would be good for the championship.

Them qualifying is good short term but its probably better long term not to qualify.

It would be interesting to see them included, as they bring viewership, but only if Sen's strategy is to get a lead in points that would allow for changes during the season.

i never knew it got this deep on the vlr forum lol

I meant when they qualified for madrid so the last masters, not this current masters.

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2024/Championship_Points/Americas

I was looking at the points distribution, and I think it's a bad format. Why does Loud only have one point, even though they qualified for madrid? In my opinion, if a team qualifies or comes in second, they should receive points. It's like how Geng got zero points for coming in second. It doesn't make sense.

In the second split they will destroy every team in that pool besides Leviathan and EG/100T could be 50/50 based on form but the rest are a cakewalk.

-demon1 -ethan + s0m + FNS
-lose to bilibili
-fns -som
-build super team, don't qualify to anything
-sell team

loud better play like they did against sen cause they were cooking. Also they need the biggest round diff + 2-0 to help qualify for the playoffs so its not impossible.

When Jawg does something I only say Oh my Jawg instead of omg cause jawg is my god (in game).

post ends there smile_emoji

to be fair, tenz does not shit talk whatsoever (usually) whereas demon1 does. he can shit talk but you gotta back it up.

na potter just low diffs chet

I agree but my actual point is to give her a star studded lineup, give her a team like NRG or SEN and she will not lose (probably).

Give potter Aspas (basically 2-3 guys worth of kills) or a team like SEN and she will dominate.

How any team did not snag potter or jawg is beyond me. Her ability to counter strat is probs top 3 in the world and she ain't 2 or 3. Imagine how good a team like lev or loud or even SEN would be if they had potter there as a co-coach or coach strictly for anti-strats.

EG have failed her, get her some help. She should leave and join a team that can cement her as the goat coach.

Also jawg is that guy. instead of omg I simply say Oh my Jawg. He is a dog.

also letting narrate leave NA (but that's not important right now).

SEN should pull out icebox as a trump card. I think they can probs win split regardless of anti stat or Sunset. Maybe bind, but if 2/3 of those map gets banned (which nrg should ban). Icebox could be a big brain trump card if they had good prep for it.

it would be funny if the favourites in groups A and C did not make it. The amount of flame NRG and whoever is favoured to win group c (probs G2) would get if they bombed out would make me laugh.

mb dad

ill call my people

hello friends. I hope you have a good day and a great week. Love you all.

P.S. if you do not have a valentines, ill be there dw bb

What are some reyna changes besides removing her from the game would you wanna see. Here are my ideas, comments, or thoughts are appreciated.

Reynas ult could mark the closest person to her (maybe the person marked knows reyna is close to them to balance but idk) and every time she kills someone who is marked, it marks someone new. The mark could disappear after a certain amount of time so that's not a constant wall hack. Maybe could help pro play when you exec onto sites.

or maybe a team mate could use one of reynas orbs to heal. So if she kills someone, the orb that hovers could be grabbed by a team mate to heal a portion of their health. Could be like 70% of a regular reyna heal for team mates. if you include this then you could give her more orbs to compensate incase a team mate takes a heal so that reyna still could heal. Maybe if a team mate takes the heal you still get like 30% of the heal or could even split it 50-50 idk how this function would work for a balance. But riot doesn't really balance stuff well so who cares lol. Reyna in pro play was fun to watch when she popped off.

Her flash could be a bit more consistent but i haven't played val in a while so i forgot how good/bad her eye is. Idk just make it so that you cant break her eye and if you see any portion of her eye you are blind.

Someone at riot, hire me, I got yoru changes for ya as well.

Could turn her into a support entry for example. Think if they branched out and had controller entries or support entries instead of just entries, it could help mix of agent comps as well but that would be for future agents.

I was comparing franching to an IVY league which is a fair comparison. Anyway here's what I wrote and tell me what you think:

let me ask you, what are the actual qualifications to become a pro, how hard is it to get those qualifications, how many people have those qualifications, and how many people are you competing against with similar qualifications?

If you think about it like this and I did a break down on the IVY League med schools for example to have a comparable example to the franchise teams You would see that its much harder on the surgeon side. just cause you have more people trying to become a pro does not mean all of them have comparable resumes. I would say you are competing against a smaller pool of pros for a spot as not many people have the qualifications to become on in franchising. Getting these qualifications is hard but manageable.

Again, just because a lot of people want to do something does not mean its a hard things IF the barrier of entry is low. Like whats the actual barrier? Having fast reflexes or amazing reaction times is not a rare thing, that a pretty average thing for most teenagers and if you do not have it, its not the end of the world. Most in game leaders have below average (in comparisons to their pro counter parts) reaction time and reflexes but they still compete. FNS literally said that what differentiated a pro from an amateur is their in game awareness, not their reflexes. Like you do not need crazy good aim in valorant, its need to be great but not amazing. The barrier to entry into medicine is soo much higher than being a pro gamer. Like you LOTS of money, so you go into debt, you dedicate more of your life to become a doctor then you would trying to become a gamer. Like your journey literally starts in highschool.

Also the "I’m 100% confident that I (3.9 unweighted GPA, 1450 SAT) could become a surgeon, but I know for a fact that I could never become a pro player". You are so out of touched with reality its insane. You understand that your marks are a dime a dozen for most applicants applying into an ivy league? You need stellar extracurriculars with your marks. Having good marks is not enough. Also just cause you can apply to go into an IVY League does not mean you can go. Would you be able to pay for the tuition? Would you be able to pay for the price to finish med school? No, unless you are rich. Thus you will go into debt. The actual barrier to entry into medicine is more than just being smart and work ethic. Literally, everyone in an IVY league and any med school has that, you would not be any different. So then you need more than that to actually get into an IVY league med school. Like how are you so out of touch with reality that you believe, simply having good grades is enough to get you into an IVY league. lol. Like highschool is a walk in the park, do not compare good grades in highschool as a determinant for success in medschool. The differences between highschool and just undergrad is crazy too btw.

EVEN if you do not go to an IVY League, could you pay for the tuition prices all the way through med school and dedicate 10+ years of your life to becoming a surgeon. This is my point as well. People assume that because sooo many people try to become a pro that its harder than becoming a surgeon. But there is such a low barrier for entry that legit anyone can try to become a pro gamer. But this can not be said about surgeons. Not anyone can try to become a surgeon. You need to be qualified. Out of all the people in the scene only a few are actually qualified to become pros. The competition to become a surgeon is way greater. You are literally competing with more people who are as/more qualified than you through out your journey. Where as in the pro scene, a way smaller portion of people are actually qualified to join a franchising team thus you are not actually competing against that many people in comparison to to the competition in med school.

ignoring the insults. This is my point as well. People assume that because sooo many people try to become a pro that its harder than becoming a surgeon. But there is such a low barrier for entry that legit anyone can try to become a pro gamer. But this can not be said about surgeons. Not anyone can try to become a surgeon. You need to be qualified. Out of all the people in the scene only a few are actually qualified to become pros. The competition to become a surgeon is way greater. You are literally competing with more people who are as/more qualified than you through out your journey. Where as in the pro scene, a way smaller portion of people are actually qualified to join a franchising team thus you are not actually competing against that many people in comparison to to the competition in med school.

i dont think any conclusion can be drawn from this game. Too new of a team to get a good idea of their actual unity. Good practice games for them however, hope they do well in the future.

final thoughts after reading some of the replies:

let me ask you, what are the actual qualifications to become a pro, how hard is it to get those qualifications, how many people have those qualifications, and how many people are you competing against with similar qualifications?

If you think about it like this and I did a break down on the IVY League med schools for example to have a comparable example to the franchise teams You would see that its much harder on the surgeon side. just cause you have more people trying to become a pro does not mean all of them have comparable resumes. I would say you are competing against a smaller pool of pros for a spot as not many people have the qualifications to become on in franchising. Getting these qualifications is hard but manageable.

What i said in previous comments about IVY leagues if I were to compare them to franchising;

The standard to get into an IVY league is already stupidly high, to get that qualification is also really hard, to then have to do this multiple times in order to be eligible to become a surgeon in an Ivy League is as you described it "statistically impossible'. You are competing with such a larger pool of people to become a surgeon with a similar qualification because they give you a rough idea of what is required and the likelihood a person actually becoming a surgeon at these schools is literally close to 0 if you take into account the process from highschool to your preferred residency. Like think about how many people start on the road to get into an IVY league, how many people get accepted into the undergrad? How many people then accepted into the med program, how many people then get accepted into the residency program of their choice. Like the competition to become a surgeon is sooooo much higher than becoming a pro that its actually not a debate if you broke it down further.

Here lets break this down again. I will compare a ivy league to becoming a pro top player in north america. Getting into an IVY league is harder than becoming a pro player. Hard to believe, but you fail to understand that being smart is not enough to get in. The barrier of entry is sooo high to become a surgeon at a top school that its not comparable. I can give you all the data and specification to become a surgeon in an IVY league. But let me ask you, what are the actual qualification to become a pro, how hard is it to get those qualifications, how many people have those qualifications, and how many people are you competing against with a similar qualifications.

The standard to get into an IVY league is already stupidly high, to get that qualification is also really hard, to then have to do this multiple times in order to be eligible to become a surgeon in an Ivy League is as you described it "statistically impossible'. You are competing with such a larger pool of people to become a surgeon with a similar qualification because they give you a rough idea of what is required that the likelihood a person actually becoming a surgeon at these schools is literally close to 0. Like think about how many people start on the road to get into an IVY league, how many people get accepted into the undergrad? How many people then accepted into the med program, how many people then get accepted into the residency program of their choice. Like the competition to become a surgeon is sooooo much higher than becoming a pro that its actually not a debate if you broke it down.

Again I am making an over simplification of the processes. Its not comparable at all. There is no real hard qualification to become a pro, which makes it accessible to more people. The same can not be said about surgeons, its not accessible to everyone, and only a few cohort of people in the 8 IVY leagues can graduate every year from the millions who dream of becoming a surgeon.

but you are also competing against such a large pool of unqualified people. Like wtf? Also the rosters get shuffled so much that getting an opportunity becomes easier as well.

Also do not oversimplify the "Anyone decently smart with a good work ethic can become a surgeon", that's simply not true. You need to be exceptionally smart and/or have an exceptional work ethic.

Yes also obvs not everyone can become a pro but that goes for any job that requires you to be an elite. LIKE YOU NEED A RESUME. Only a small portion of pros have a resume to apply and thus you are not competing against that many people. In comparison, that can not be said about becoming a surgeon. Here ill give you more numbers. Millions of people apply to get into med school every year, only a small percentage get in, then out of the small percentage you have an even smaller percentage getting into a specialization. Like this comparison makes no sense.

You are not competing with that many qualified people to become a pro, sure becoming qualified may be hard but that is again the same for literally anything. To become qualified to become a doctor it literally starts in highschool, then 4-5 year of undergrad then 4 year of med school then 3+ years of residency. You quite literally spend more time trying to become a doctor then becoming a pro.

yeh I can understand this point but you are also assuming the path in becoming a pro is linear. I would say in general, the work you put into becoming a pro will eventually allow you to prove yourself. But like you are doing such a linear comparison without taking into consideration that because the barrier to becoming a pro is sooo low, that literally anyone can compete with you. So obvs the percentage goes down but imagine if they put in a criteria which required you put in a certain number of accomplishments, work hours, and other factors. The people being able to apply to become a pro would then flip this notion. Only a few people have the resume currently to become a pro based on past events and if this is what is taken into consideration then you are not competing aginst that many people. TO get any job you need a resume, if you do not then work for it. Like wtf is this weird notion that because the barrier to entry is lower that also means that the job is harder to get? BUT because there is essentially such a low barrier to entry you are literally competing with a majority of nobodies. SO this comparison again does not make sense.

You can not say the barrier to becoming a pro is harder if the requirements to becoming a pro is also vague. Like what are the actual requirements to become a pro?? Demon1 was a nobody before EG, how did he get a shot over anyone else? IF you say that its harder because its so vague then this is a circular argument. Realistically you are not competing with that many people if you have already proved yourself to a degree, its why you do not see many upsets unless its from already established pros/potentially unknown superstars. YOU will get progress if you put in the work or you get scouted like Demon1. BUT regardless you are not really competing with that many qualified people. also we need to establish what are the requirements to becoming a pro cause we cant keep being so vague about it.

to be fair, being a pro is hard. So i do think describing them as lazy or overpaid is fair. Also if they generate millions in revenue for the esports they should be paid fairly. But I agree that being a surgeon is harder lol.

thank you sir, I also did not mention the hard af tests you take in med school and the 100+ hours you work a week which would put any pro to shame IMO.

we should not compare jobs in general, if you do then know what you are talking about. NOW obvs this is hypocritical cause idk much about being a pro besides the view things I've heard other pros describe on stream BUT I tried to keep my analysis more emphasized on the doctor side.

bro if the only thing you got out of that was that I went to med school then you need to become more educated. Its not about elitism or being a doctor as a flex, its about having proper respect for the people who spend a large portion of their lives helping others.

I agree on the point that there is scarce job pool for pros but he simply said becoming a pro valorant player, not a top of the line pro player. Becoming a pro is not that hard. But also this is a purely hypothetical argument. I could say that if the pro players for any game worked as hard as a residency student, I do not think becoming a pro would be all that difficult. I am not saying that they do not work hard but there are levels to this. Becoming the top percentage in any field is extremely hard, do not just assume pro valorant is harder because its so publicised. Also i would say being a pro in valorant is soooo much easier than being a pro in csgo for example. But that's another topic. Pro valorant players get it relatively easier.

that isnt factually correct tho. Like as a doctor you have to stay on top of actual literature that is out. However changes are not as volatile as in valorant so from that aspect I can understand. Also the work you do as a pro is not relatively that hard if you were to compare it to most jobs. Like Unles you are a IGL/head coach who has to analyze the maps, agents and vod review then sure you have a bust schedule. But the average pro does not do more work than is required from a typical job. The notion that they do not stop learning = more demanding, does not make sense. regardless of your job you have to always be learning, its not just a "oh i finished my education so I'm done now". Who ever thinks this is out of touch from reality.