I wouldn't say so, that was precisely calculated by Verno.
NRG knew they've been contained
s0m didn't know where the 2nd would be

Even s0m knows he shouldn't have won that

I didn't even want SEN to win a match this badly as compared to MIBR.

I have never ever wanted a team(NRG) to lose this badly.

P. S. Ik Both are good teams but i was really rooting for Verno. I feel bad for him.

Still, they played it correct entering one by one, even s0m knows he shouldn't have won that

Really the wrong person to be saying this

Mibr deserved this win
Brawk luck spammed thru wall, biggest odin one tricker oat
S0m getting lucky thru smoke

Verno legit called so well.

NRG could've lost multiple series this champs.
I don't even get this mad when SEN loses

I feel so bad for Verno man

I don't want the roster to change but i fw with this one heavy except I would keep bang instead of narrate

Madrid mentioned

Nostalgia :(

I hope the roster doesn't change but if it does-

Get a damn good lurker that takes timings around the map.

All G2/FNC/PRX players play well with timings to convert rounds

Also get zekken to start awping

0/8

Not way better but maybe slightly, Zander is not as proven a commodity as much as bang is

All regions are garbage

I think the more important issue is the teamplay and the mental factor.

The fact they are at champs shows that they are familiar with the maps but that's not enough unfortunately

I can understand that but I respectfully disagree

Who would they get then?

I'll miss John if he leaves tho, insane player

Understandable

Sinatra🤣🤣

Take the flair off buddy

I think it can

The armchair analysts have spoken

Keep the roster as it is

A performance coach might help tho :)

If they win this match they'll only get better to play against GX. I trust them. Congrats on heretics qualifying tho

And I love u guys

It's not just that the util is good but they actually look like a team playing (to get her). Nice teamplay

Fake fans

Nah i was going thru mada's team history and saw this randomly

Actually impressed by him

If texture and karon were there, t1 surely would have had a better chance

Man I miss 2024 gen.g

How about now?

Sensational choke by DRX as always

I expected G2 to be like this but holy fuck NRG is damn good

And as always, a sensational choke by DRX

Definitely worth it

https://www.vlr.gg/post/5440202/sen-24-vs-sen-25

I didn't mean to demean the newer players of the roster. I still think they should keep em and build a strong core like G2.

What I truly meant was:
2024 SEN won becuz they were actually insane and had good reads of the meta, basically bcuz of themselves

2025 SEN seems like they win becuz the opponent is making more mistakes and zekken and narrate get frags off of that, which is more dependent on the opponent being bad. This is also the reason why they never beat G2 this year.

Wow that was very well put

I didn't mean to demean the newer players with my post.

I just pointed out some issues with the current roster. I agree that the other players are also not at their best. It is when a team truly starts synergizing well when each players start to show their best

Just look at prx now compared to last. Any of their players could be the best player in the server on a given day.

I still want sen to keep the same roster cuz it still has crazy potential

This is so far off than what's being actually said , zellsis has always been that guy no questions asked

They would annihilate teams who let them retake a site, it's not the same this year

The bald king is a legend

I have never hated sacy for a second but I agree that he was scapegoated a lot of the times

I can see that, risk- taking has been an issue with this SEN roster unlike teams like G2 and PRX.

I think it's just the fact that none of them really have a playstyle like that, only person who can do that is johnqt but he's the igl, and zellsis is just not a good lurker, bang could try that but he is not that type of a player.

Oh I understand that, that makes sense, I didn't remember that round correctly it seems

Sacy was always the scapegoat whenever and now people r just realizing how important he was.

I have loved watching TenZ play since 2020 but I am not going to cope that this Sen is somewhat good as the last one

Why would they want to flood in alone against 3 people when they can go 5v3 instead of a 2v3?

It's just playing advantages poorly.

Also, why would u call a retake from behind an X-factor play?

I have said this before, good risk taking comes only when it's required at disadvantageous position to even out the situation, u can't expect an anchor to just sit on a site when he has no support whatsoever to help him hold.

If it works people call it magic, when it doesn't which happens most of them time in tier 1, it looks stupid as to why the player didn't want to play with his team.

This is a bit of a childish argument.

I agree with that as well, G2 has been more of a post plant team which has played well for them this season.

But when compared to teams like G2, more than being tactically outplayed, I see a lack of cohesion and sound fundamentals unlike G2 which is extremely good at it.

I believe they can do better but I'm not gonna bank on it

I can see that, I just remembered how everyone said that bang was a huge upgrade to TenZ at the start of the year

I agree, the veteran experience of tenz and especially sacy made them play fundamentally well and not collapse under pressure

But at the same time narrate has better aim than sacy but we know how it's been this year

My bald king

It would be for sure