Well playing omen is not really about top fragging or even entering

Dont know if they keep him its fine im just saying replacing him for someone might be better. So far when it matters he always looks barely useful goes in dies. unreliable even if he enters a site he creates zero pressure

truth is that they dont play around duelists well and the whole team is inconsistent

trexx but idk keiko pretty ass too regionally sure does good but wtf is that raze ppl glaze it even tho literally just stachels in and dies it doesn't work on a real tournament

Tho imo drop the viper nats brim trexx fade pati skye

happy no trexx on gekko tho i think skye still has nice value on this map u can safely check mid long showers the heal is nerfed but still pretty good i think brim could be changed for sky but doesnt have to ig as long as no shity gekko

Shanks but i like Tarik aswell mostly cause of his chat tho he started actually reacting again(and when sen is losing its peak), as to why Shanks he's just funny unmatched energy and has knowledge to back it up. Tho personally dislike Fns just a cocky unc has some good insight but mostly glazes himself over his past while flaming teams for playing the game i dislike that. :)

Well then u didnt watch that map since it wasn't just choking their comp was literally useless vs enemys attack comp, they could had only won with some insane personal plays that's not reliable at all... they even had 4 ppl on b 1 mid got first kills and still lost.

Just spam B on attack and its free, defenders cant defend on site cause the positions are dogsh*t but attackers can go off site post plant it's just so free And if u have heaven control on A post plant u also cant lose u keep some ppl crossfire and if it goes to shit u can spam thru smokes

It's just attack abyss...

Maybe it's something they prepared and didnt want to use but now are forced to? their comp is good idk what is ur problem

And not counting china which got more popular

toronto was their peak for years sadly

Well but if u win u can't but if u lose a round potentially bcs of it u can still call it u have zero security abt the round being replayed so better play it and call tech pause after

Cause they literally called a tech pause? and nothing came out of it

liquid always looks good regionally then they get clapped by anyone

they did, riot did nothing classic riot merchants bro they boosting edg so their china viewers stay

Well they got a bug and riot said fck u classic china merchants boosting edg so they dont lose milions of viewers from c0ina

It isn't a common bug but ig it tilted them hard

it is kk miracle game indeed but expecting from liquid on internationals is just what it is they never do good

Riot merchants promoting edg

It's funny how dominating liquid is whole year but when it comes to internationals they look like the worst team

Someone was arguing w me recently that trexx is a good aimer and totally isn't the weakest in lulquid insert chronicle for trexx and tl will finally get to playoffs at an interenational

Idk only sen and prx fans are the most obnoxious. But hate watching sen i will be there no matter what

But also said that they prefer to stay together.

Liquid are always not doing shit in internationals XD just sad. and kangkang in form its over

Nah they just winning vs liquid 2-0 if kangkang is in form tuff

miniboo and boo are a bundle so u would need to drop both or none:D and i think they are doing fine tho if they did have a top class duelist would be easier

To be fair Tenz peak was good but indeed didnt achieve a lot lot he cant be considered goat for that reason but he can be considered one of the goats bcs his fan base became a sort of a stepping stone for getting valorant on the map especially NA

And also one of the most consitent yet flexible guys. He will play anything and do at least decent put Asspass on anything else than jett/neon/raze and he is cooked even tho his raze is not that good

Not to mention he won champs with +28KD on a controller and the fact that he is in valorant since its beggining. This guy put zekken as top 2 goat there is no point in arguing w him

Just because braindead ppl call him the goat doesn't make him one. Just a friendly reminder statistically there are more dumb people than smart ones. And i feel like you are one of them.

I would put Leo as on honorable mention his peak was astonishing. and he was changing the meta by himself he kinda paved the way on how to play sova for example and his aim so crisp but i do feel like he didn't play enough in a year or 2 he alr will propably get overshadowed.

The definition of goat is longevity in staying on top. No one beats chronicle there, and no one has as many thropies. Or idk if there has been even ONE international tournament MVP as a Controller/flex player. + #1 breach in the world year after year. Some Asspas having 1 wonder year and 2 years of being MID is not a goat, alfajer goat? lmao he is a great player but XD? forsaken sure goat debate. nats at the bottom of the debate just above ASSpas

Lmao he literally gapped many duelists i think even including ASSpas where he even won an MVP being a controller/flex player in an international tournament and is a player with most amount of throphies. On top of the game since it literally CAME OUT he was there at the beggining and is still here. Its insane u can call some idk 1 year wonder and 2 yrs of MID MID ASSpas into a goat debate ,the title means longevity in staying on top. +def the best breach in the world year after year.

Clearly u don't understand what "team" in a "team game" means. The support aspas is getting he wouldnt be in the goat debate sure he is a great player and def still in the top 3/5 duelists convo. But he chokes, fumbles, overheats, and before the team can figure out how to play for him when meta changes or new map comes out aspas is literally doing nothing and the team performs like it did in league.

Lmao literally champs winning IGL and aspas in that team + great mazino on top of that leviatan was doing pretty well before aspas.

Very true. It's like prime yay where everyone lost their shit but it was literally optic playing everything around him and baiting for him. They changed playstyle, meta's changed and the somehow "goat" can't carry his team consistently.

Leo was insane derke aswell and thats when they won back to back to back so what's ur point? Crashie is def in the top 8 ini conversation RIGHT NOW but that's the same argument how do u know its crashiesh being good when he is in a "super team" with "star players" and one of the best igls that tells him what to do where to dart when to flash?. But i would say top 5 is a star player range he is def worse than many other initiators.

Boaster abyss merchant buddy its like fns haven i like boaster but the truth is they are not "SUPER STAR PLAYERS" they have great synergy and play different valorant it's like idk baseball used to be sure u can be a good hitter etc but who gets bases? chronicle is that guy he doesnt frag out he only does when he needs to. that's a goat he does what he needs to do to win like zidane on the field

Yeah but chronicle is always clutch the amount of times he wins a crucial round is propably the biggest reason he has so many thropy's + he's a controller/flex has insane util and great aim and ice in his veins if he starts winning again he would desrve the goat for the time being

This is disingenious alfajer is a great player but crashies is past his prime and boaster is basically FNS of europe great igl but getting carried mostly, chron is like xyp9x for astralis.

Nah pati is great for TL tho trexx is pretty bad imo like very rare good game mostly last or second last, idk like maybe PRX cause their supporting/initiator players pretty mid and he would propably work well for something, drx free1ing those are all team i think could get a level up with chronicle in them tho i do believe trexx is very replacable for chron

Anyone saying chronicle is not the goat knows nothing abt the game.

Verno barely a rookie, + acting like their team is supposed to have bad synergy after a whole year together lmao

I just wonder how dominant a good team could be if they add chronicle current fnc doesnt deserve him tbh unless they step up this tournament

yeah but at the same time he only brings it when the times are tuff lmao

i Feel like the 100 bullets makes it the weapon identity tho i think 70 is still a lot and enough for most situations so doubt that change would actually nerf it a lot, imo 80bullets and slower fire rate or keep the 100 but make the pen dmg half of what it is now u can even 2 tap ppl in the head thru boxes its the same as vandal it doesnt make sense.

They will start spamming it again they used to when the maps were in favor. now odin is strong again and the maps are mostly spammable and it's the fact that spams thru smokes are also very strong. i feel like teams are cocky by not buying them or no one wanting to play it in the team regardless, it is op and in many places it actually takes zero skill, i agree there is some skill to it but like idk abyss A/B POST plant 0

either make it even more expensive or lower its fire rate or penetration dmg at least.