Tnh Ethan winning 2 champs with NA is goat worthy but if fnc wins eventually then yeah
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Tnh Ethan winning 2 champs with NA is goat worthy but if fnc wins eventually then yeah
Idk not sleep he had info on them being mid and got surprised they are mid XD
And he 1 tapped him after jumping down
I like nrg i like brawk but just nerf odin its unhealthy
ngl this interactio nis just restarted bro is walking and sooting doesnt matter he will scan him he needs to just hit 5 bullets out of the 100 XD
to be honest this nrg's lineup is great all they needed was -fns lmao
man and alfajer zero reaction ig he still didnt recover this is sad how many fnc threw round all nrg rounds were well played cant say the same for fnc
crashies so far is selling it for nrg ngl he said he wants to end their run but so ra he is 0/5 in 7 rounds
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I think putting him top3 is just in all honesty wrong. KD is the biggest factor in terms of rating and first kills so duelists inherently always are at the top of the ratings in every tournament then add the fact that mako is Calling rounds aswell, and he is the one that drops his gun his orb swings for his duelist. So to say since he is tied in rating with him to put him top3 is imo just not genuine. tho i agree he is breaking records (but also barely any assists) and he deserves to be in the goat debate but he just has to keep up the performance
But also bro called him top 3 when an igl mako on smokes is having the same rating as aspas on a duelist now that's just grifting
100T would need to sell all of their other rosters to afford that one lmao also i think there's a transfer limit
and in terms of clutch success he is 1/16 :/ def not current best in the world but good on him for breaking the record i'd agree he is the best duelist in the world currently but maybe not player
I wouldn't count groups they had to play blg and rrq (other teams had way harder opponents) if we check playoffs stats by ADR or Rating or ACS he is top 3
And that's valid but then again the rating doesn't show the real impact of a good support/flex player and ppl just look at rating and every duelist could be in the goat debate with all that being said chron's sacrificial playstyle, stat's and consistency trhu all these years at the highest lvl of gameplay on multiple agents is underrated + many players eventually fell off due to meta change coach changes etc, he didn't
And include the fact that rating favors kills and are weighted even more in a 5vs5 scenario (so a first kills which is the duelist's job) and the assist on that kill is not weighted more for rating than any other assist(which is like out of 5 indicators the 3rd in significance towards rating)
Didn't he play raze a bit aswell in 2024 i think
do YOU know how rating is calculated?
https://www.vlr.gg/160667/vlr-gg-player-rating-explained there u go bub it def says that assists count less and there was also an update on the 2.0 rating which modified the kast and trading impact on the rating. While also pointing out that kills in a 5vs5 weight more( which is every duelist job to find an opening) but go off bub their previous article even puts staying alive at the last place in terms of significance
this guy doesn't understand that kills and assists are counted differently and that duelists are the one supposed to get kills. They honestly think that without the super team around chron he would be shit but can't reverse the argument in their brain that maybe fnatic without him and other on the team wouldn't look like a "superteam" chron is the best most consistent flex in the world. and aspas is the best duelist in the world. But looking just at rating is restarted knowing that kills count more to the rating than assists not to mention baiting or swinging first for ur duelist and dropping ur guns giving up orbs XD. Just braindead ppl on vlr who clearly never been in a competetive professional environment anywhere in their life
U didnt understand what i meant by the FACT that clearly greatest of all time is a figure of speech and there are many goats thru the years. U claimed there is only one. Sure if u say the goat of idk 2010-2020 we can pinpoint one, doesn't change the fact that there are other goats that had their peaks
Well then does that mean that greates of all time isnt actually of all time? Cause if u compare aspas stats from all his time in tier 1 he isn't the best. U had nba players and football players that broken record that never been broken yet why arent they the greatest ooohh maybe because it wasn't consistent just like aspas the recency bias is strong. Not to mention that assist aren't counted equally into overall rating and acs so no wonder every tournament the are mostly duelists on top
Sure compare their teammates, Like loud wasnt a superteam and lev wasnt supposed to be one aswell lol. And since u want to compare that let's compare ur stats in franchising farming NA with 2/3 teams being competetive every year
Greatest of all time is just a saying if that would be the case the first to be considered the greatest would forever stay the greatest, now did they?
i would only change benjy and maybe miniboo, boo's calling is pretty good strats wise heretics is great they just lack firepower and consistency which is the biggest problem of miniboo and benjy
Kills are the flashiest so ppl salivate over flashy plays although aspas deserves to be one of the goats i dont think there needs to be only one goat like we have for example nba magic lebron kobe jordan or like messi and ronaldo so far chron and aspas both are one of the bests at their roles.
so far, but the others are also more out of meta than ever regardless im talking about his past
you are stupid tho they are pro players u cant have 5 duelist on the team u wont win.
someone is supposed to get kills and someone is supposed to set up the kills simple.
It's the same for f.e football everyone thinks the goats of football are the strikers cause they get goals but every one of these goats thanks their teammates for setting them up
flashy plays always garner more fans.
Each players does what they do best and chron is best at doing what needs to be done to win aspas is best at killing. Both are great players but your argument is like put an f1 racer in a rally race and or the other way around and expect them to perform just as good. Zidane Pirlo Zanetti Kevin de bruyne and many others they were not the best goal scorers (like aspas best killer) yet they are considered one of the greatest players because of their other abilities and ability to win thropies.
I think both players are valid for different reasons in the goat debate. And i wouldn't mind to call both of them so far the goats like ronaldo and messi
Sure aspas ceiling is higher than chron but still this guy plays like 5-6 agents per torunament and still ends top 5-15 stats wise at the end of almost every international not to mention that teams play to setup aspas ofc because he is good but when u get dropped guns gifted orbs swinged for first droned for and flashed for with an agent that is meant to kill dashes stuns flashes tp's you will be fragging. Aspas is mechanically gifted but i still think there's a fundamental difference in knowing how to get kills and knowing what to do to secure a round and playing multiple agents on the highest level
Bro is also comparing chronicle playing 5 different agents and having pretty good adr/fk/fd stats bro is baiting chronicles is always in the top 5-10 on almost every international while playing the most amount of agents
Sadly too much int from th losing so many 5vs3 4vs3/2's maybe if they didnt int ascent;/
brother they hit B like 5 times thru tunnel and sova wont ult it ever
For some reason drx is saving their ults forever XD they have yoru sova ult for past 5 rounds
they are going first for him they drone for him and he is a jett u see similar fk/d stats on jett many times tho sunset was a diff story
Sadly They inted ascent could had been a 2-0
valorant a big momentum game especially when u lose every round possibly 5vs3 4vs2 all the time
They threw so many rounds they dont deserve it anyway
idk heretics has smart plays but then just do the most braindead stuff