Nah, the Trace matches against Vit and Lev were both decently close, though the last maps in both cases much less so.

BLG completely outclassed NRG on four maps in a row, in a time when China was much weaker than they are now, and with ardiis saying he guarantees that NRG is winning.

At least he's making it out of groups

How is it copium to say they lost because they made mistakes? It's not like they were completely hopeless.

Saying the words "forced positivity" and "vlr" in the same sentence is crazy

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MiniBoo had some very important kills in the last few rounds of Lotus. Not the greatest series from him, but I'm hoping that gives him some confidence for the next few matches.

I mean if we compare regions, we should take the entire regions into account, no? Obviously EG was the best team at the end of last year, and obviously the Champs title matters to the teams more than anything. But what's the point of comparing regions if the only thing you're actually doing is comparing the top handful of teams?

DACH not fraudulent after all?

Patch 9.08. If they stick to their schedule of one patch every 2 weeks, that should be in 12 weeks

Thank you so, so much, K4ziuHa, I'm gonna kiss you on the mouth

Low rank players hate Fracture because it punishes the average silver defensive gameplay of sit somewhere in a corner and hope they don't get cleared.

Even in diamond there's plenty of people who get mad at you for daring to suggest taking some space in like one out of 12 defensive rounds.

A map where you kinda have to take space on defense is like 9/11 for people afraid of taking fights.

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If I read the points correctly, Acend can still make Ascension play-ins if they beat both Diamand and GoNext, right? If they lose either, they're out?

It looks like one of the weaker on paper but I feel like Talon and Vitality could both be good for an upset.

Very unlikely that Lev lose to both though

Seeding, money, and technically also a title.

Champs group each get one first, second, third, and fourth seed from each region, so by winning this you dodge FNC, EDG and GenG

Bro thinks he's supernova, the king of Valorant 💀

I mean they might have some extra stuff prepped, but they're not saving strats to the extend that they toss away a match like this.

This is seeding directly for champs, you don't wanna lose this and get Lev and PRX in your group or something.

Real fans celebrate when their team loses 💯

Bro said they took it from CS 😭

I mean yeah, 8 teams, early in the season, wacky qualification format

What's the tiebreaker for points? If 100T end up 4th in playoffs, the 4th slot will be between them and Sen who are both at 12 points.

Is it playoff performance? Regular season performance? Has Riot said anything official about it?

And on top of that if we expect 3 and 4 to win, we get Lev (1) Vs Krü (4) and G2 (2) vs Sen (3) as well, so those matchups follow the exact same pattern as well.

Bro snuck in nukkye

Just bet on the winning team bro, how fucking dumb are you to keep losing money on this game? Braindead.

I mean I doubt they just spontaneously made that decision.

The decision to remove Chet was apparently made by the org partly because of the HLTV article about him (the players seemed to have been against it).

Victor must have been a consideration to bench when they instead benched Demon1, and I would assume Crashies and Fenis probably advocated for him, while the org might have preferred D1 (speculation). But with the lack of success, there was no way they ever keep him. As #31 said, the earlier you kick him, the better for all parties, including Victor himself.

FNC is already guaranteed, and if FNC win their single elim game against KC, TH will also be guaranteed.

Questions - Umm, who cares?

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2024/Championship_Points

American pros just whine the most about stuff like map pool (Pacific essentially had 9 maps in stage 2 + playoffs, Americas only 8), and Riot likes to appease the people who complain the loudest.

In the scenario where KC beat Vit, one win would have been enough for them to qualify if FNC also won their single elim match against Vit (because then the top 4 teams on points would also be the top 4 in playoffs).

This didn't happen obviously, but KC could still qualify even without a win in playoffs if FNC, FUT and TH end top 3. If KC beat FNC they definitely need a second win.

A bit silly maybe. If KC get exactly one win in playoffs, they're guaranteed out of Champs, but with zero wins they have a chance to qualify.

Nah you're just stupid

we could even go 0-4

goes 4-0

Bro said "nah I'd win" and went 26-3

The entire enemy team combined had 24 kills.

Commenter above bet money on them and they lost, that's all

They're not farming money bro, they just want to see you lose. Continue gambling please 🙏🏻

Yes, so am I. I wrote playoffs instead of champs, which was a silly mistake, but the point stays the same.

Points are only relevant for teams that don't place top 3 in playoffs. Any team that gets enough wins in the playoffs to overtake FNC in the points standings will place top 3 and qualify to champs either way.

He's definitely underperforming this year, even for his standards. No hate to him or anything, I love the guy, but I'm pretty sure this is still the complacency of the off season. He just doesn't have the raw talent to keep up at this level, and this year he just didn't put in enough work to offset that (he has been shooting quite decently last year, especially in clutch moments when he didn't have to IGL).

If FNC beat KC, they also guarantee group victory, no? Which gives an extra point.

And dont forget that if teams get two or three wins in playoffs, they will also end up in the top 3 anyway, meaning they effectively can't overtake FNC. The only way FNC miss out on playoffs is if a team that is placed 4th or worse has more points.

Brother in Shanghai, like 70% of games that weren't 2-0s traded opponent's map picks. Teams prep more for their opponent's pick than their own, because there's more footage to work on specific anti-strats.

What the fuck are you doing spending money on esports betting when you clearly have negative understanding of the game?

Good article Chicken Joe, I just wonder if this was a good choice of headline. You know most vlr chatters can't read, as evidenced by so many people in this thread.

Personally if I were betting on esports, I would simply bet on the winning team, but maybe that's just me. Bettors stay mad and keep whining

Just read through vlr forums when FNC placed 4th at champs lol

Ah suddenly top 4 is the greatest achievement, classic NA mental gymnastics

Nah, they got outclassed this game, but they played well in the tourney overall and they deserve this fs

Right, idk how I missed that.

Crpiocells

FUT literally placed better internationally than NRG did regionally

There's a big difference between "Most teams have at least one cs player" and "85% of all players are from CS"

Let's go through the recent successful rosters

2023 Fnatic
Boaster and Derke played CS professionally; Leo, Alfa and Chron did not.

2023 EG
C0m and Ethan played CS; jawg, Demon1 and Boostio did not

2024 Sentinels
Zellsis and TenZ played CS; Sacy, zekken did not. Johnqt apparently has like 27 maps on record, so not really, but let's count him.

Let's throw the current top 4 at Shanghai in as well to get some more data
G2
JonahP, leaf yes; trent, icy, valyn no

GenG
Lakia yes; Meteor, Karon, t3xture, Munchkin no

100T (excl Boostio because I already counted him above)
None of them as far as I can tell

TH
Pati yes; Benjy, wo0t, Riens, MiniBoo no. Boo also has a couple of matches for some teams that as far as I can tell aren't even salaried ors, but let's be generous and count him as well.

That's a sample size of 35 players, and only 12 of them played CS professionally. That's less than half. And the number is getting smaller and smaller every year. All the rising stars like Benjy, N4rrate and whatnot do not have CS careers.

Yeah early Valorant built its esports on the back of former CS pros, but those times are over. The only ex-CS players that are successful in Valorant are the ones that switched early (2020-21) and have fully focused on Valorant for years.

They qualified to 1 out of 3 international events.

flair lmao