yeah ! will China will have their revenge over TH, thats the questions !

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2024/Championship_Points/Pacific

LoL yeah... Kinda sad

If you ask me what is the point of a smoke would be first "a safeway to a plant"

I don't see anyway how a team could be viable without a smoker

It's a median solution between having a full round robin, and 2022 EMEA/NA format

Stage 2 is ending the round-robin we have start in stage one. You can still have 11 team ending in 5-5 (And even if you though it was only intragroup they could all have end 2-2)

To me stage 1 should have been intragroup for so many reason...

Yeah OCE not having a slot is a shame, I hope one day India get big enough to be their own T1 region and OCE can take the GE slot

So far, you bet :

• 92% on PRX over G2
• 67% TH over EDG
• 92% 100T over FUT
• 77% GEN over FNC

You guys has made your choice lul

What ? I saw you put EDG !

I always eager to improve my lil bot, I take help with pleasure (For the moment it's just an libroffice calc I update after each game)

What valorant map doesn't need smokes ? I really don't see a map where smoke wont be played. Same for info, info is so mush important to manage space, (in LoL ward/info is basically what make a good support).

To be fair I kinda wish they are no meta comp, if smokes would have been balanced, it would have been amazing to have team that pick their agent based on what their teamate love "Oh you prefer Astra over Omen ? Good lets go Astra then", (That wouldn't shock me if on some team they where an OTP Astra and in other on they are an OTP Omen)

I understand you mush, but I really feel that you see Valorant with the eye of someone that have experience in classical FPS more than MOBA or hero shooter where in some game the pick can make 80% of victory, In a moba if you pick 5 assacin, you loose even if your player like their char.

I'm not saying Valorant pick is as mush important as moba pick, it's obviously not the case, but it's kinda hard to guess how mush the agent pick take a place in the victory. My actual position is this one : You need at least a smoker, and you need at least an agent that gives active vision/info (Sova, Fade, Skye, Gekko), it's usually better to have one diver (But I start thinking if Riot continue to nerf the only 2 agents, we might enter a world where no duelist are viable), If a team as one info and a smoker, i'm raising an eyebrow and give a chance to the weird comp (yes even if it's a Jett on Lotus), but if that's not the case like FUT no vision on Lotus, I will just consider the composition is not good. And I still consider those 2 criteria isn't enough, and I'm a bit laxest and need to find even more (I tend to put "having a diver" as a third criteria but with Icebox and possibly new nerf i'm not sure of that)

Potter ?

To me they are something like 20 candidat to win champs T.T

To be fair, if we replay the game 100 times FPX would probably have won 50 times

Sorry buddy 100 max.
Congrats you are the first one to bet on G2

People like to hate things that are overrated.
He may be good, but not as good as people overhype him

It's only 100 max per game buddy, but I can note the +100 on GEN

Bro you didnt put any EMEA team :c
Lets find a just middle :c

Thats... Very EMEA oriented

Yes but my question was "Are you ok with being a part of APAC or would you want be a part of AM ?"

-185 --> 1052
part 4 : https://www.vlr.gg/353760/bet-on-odd-part-4/#1

-100+152--> 1052
part 4 https://www.vlr.gg/353760/bet-on-odd-part-4/#1

-100 +252--> 1052
part 4 https://www.vlr.gg/353760/bet-on-odd-part-4/#1

-200 --> 779
part 4 https://www.vlr.gg/353760/bet-on-odd-part-4/#1

-175 --> 825

part 4 here https://www.vlr.gg/353760/bet-on-odd-part-4/#1

Following of that post
https://www.vlr.gg/350419/betting-contest-based-on-odd-no-money-involved/#30
https://www.vlr.gg/351829/bet-on-odd-part-2/ (I can’t find round 2 topic, I think it might have been deleted, if you are a vlr mod, I would love to hear what hapenned!)
https://www.vlr.gg/353031/bet-on-odd-part-3/#23
tldr ; testing a bot based on ELO, I want to see if you can beat him.
Rule is easy :
Every new player receive 1000 point at the start, you can bet 100 point maximum on each game. (Obviously no money involved, it’s just for fun)

Round 4 odding bets Odd in [], chace of win in ()  :

• [1,36] PRX – G2 [3,79] (PRX 74%)
• [1,44] EDG – TH [3,28] (EDG 69 %)
• [1,74] 100T – FUT [2,35] (100T 58%)
• [1,86] FNC – GEN [2,17] (FNC 54 %)
  China is still a little bit overated by the bot

Ranking :

• 1st wykes 1052
• 1st scarlemange 1052
• 3rd Dolphin 918
• 4th K4ziuHa 825
• 5th 7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao 815
• 6th Al-Mawsil 800
• 7th novinho_pirocudo 779
  With the LEV defeat bot is now really BIG, he is currently at +759 (Sum of everyone loss)

Result of lasts rounds :

R1

• [1.7] G2 - T1 [2.42] : (G2 59%, G2)
• [1.61] FPX - FUT [2.63] : (FPX 62%)
• [1.61] GEN - LEV [2.63] : (GEN 62%)
• [1.48] TH - DRG [3.07] : (TH 67%)

R2

• [1,99] G2 - TH [2,01] : (G2 50,2%)
• [1,92] FPX - GEN [2,08] (FPX 52%)
• [1,79] LEV - T1 [2,26] : (LEV 56%)
• [1,53] FUT - DRG [2,88] : (FUT 65%)

R3

• [1,66] FPX – TH [2,52] (FPX 60%)
• [1,96] FUT – LEV [2,05] (FUT 51 %)

-200 --> 800

Nice try but check at 3.2 residencia y representacion https://valorantchallengers.lat/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/VCL-2024-v1.2.pdf

Lev vs DRG ? é.è

The fact everyone bet on Lev on my betting contest make me so laugh, I think Lev gonna win, but god, if they dont the bot gonna be so big

Intresting you not supporting NA,

if you have to choose being a part of APAC or NA (Like on LoL, OCE player can play in NA without counting as an import) what would you pick ?

More a map is bad and one sided, more we see comeback and a banger game.

So here is my question : What if more a map is horrible, more a map is enjoyable to watch because of comebacks ?

Dumb theory that came out of my mind :
You can't nerf smokes as mush as you nerf duelist, initiator or sentinels, wish mean if riot continue to nerf everyone, it's possible at some point only smoker will be strong and we may end in a kinda "goats meta" where we have something like 3 smokes and 2 initiators.

Additional theory, Valorant pyramid of maslow is Smokes > Vision > Initiations > Entry > Flankeeping.
You need a certain amount of smoke to play the game, If you remove a smoke on every smokers, you'll need ever more smoker to do the jobs, so even if you retire a smoke to some smokers you will need even more smoker in your team.

More riot will make agent weak, more smokes pro will have, if riot choose to continue nerfing Jett and Raze instead of reworking 5 other duelist, we won't have more duelist diversity, we will have just no duelist in proplay...

I have a potential answer : manipualte opponent rotation to plant on a empty site the less undercover possible (In the middle of 4 or 5 line), then stall enough time with flash and molly to temporize opponent that have to run threw all map to defuse on a mollyed site against someone that can appear for 4 place different to kill you. Like this you can win 1v3 without taking any kill (But it's the mathematical equivalent of taking a triple kill)

Postplant demoness ? (Thats basically my specialty <3)

If I wanted to trashtalk NA I would say that a team that have won nothing more than one NA split would enter in top 5 NA team of all the time. But I don't like trashtalk.

Let's be honnest, I'm pretty sure you can find at least 5 NA team that did better than 100T 2024 that only wno 1 split...

I could understand why 2023 100T could not be that important for 2024 since they had make a change (Well, they still have 3 player here so i'll have a nuanced opinion on that), but FNC roster is the same I see no reason why their 2023 experience shouldn't count in the calcul of the ELO. Even if i'm considering doing a soft reset (/2 the ELO of every teams) FNC would stay a little bit above 100T (even if I admit it would be an almost 50-50.

Soft reseting the ELO may be a solution but that would make AP and CN team even higher

How so ? FNC loose only 2 BO3 in 2023, they loose only one in kickoff, and they struggle to qualif to PO like 100T did
FNC is consistent, 100T isn't really yet.
The bot think about long term, if a team have 2 good week like 100T did, it's not enough to pass a team that have been consistently at the top since 2023 (And even more)

Hard to say if FUT loose are against worst team, FNC got a higher ELO than any AM team for obvious reason, so FUT and LEV have almost the same ELO and the game is 50-50 for the bot so thats sounds fair to me.
I think the main diff between the two team is that Fut went to world la year and Lev didn't, FUT proved they can be top 8 world, Lev never did it yet, they have just to win this one (If they done they will be 54% instead of 49%)

It's not they are playing bad, it's more they got a lot of loose this year, they are only in 7-6 this year, if they want to have a better ELO, they need to prove themself. To me their level is a little bit higher that the stat the bot give them (Because the bot is based on past result and it seems they are kinda improving since the start), but they still need to prove her wrong, and thats not by loosing against GEN and G2 that they will do it. To me they are favorite for tomorrow, but the game may not be one sided.

It's 100 max my bro !

Following of that post :
https://www.vlr.gg/350419/betting-contest-based-on-odd-no-money-involved/#30
https://www.vlr.gg/351829/bet-on-odd-part-2/ (I can’t find round 2 topic, I think it might have been deleted, if you are a vlr mod, I would love to hear what hapenned!)
tldr ; testing a bot based on ELO, I want to see if you can beat him.
Rule is easy : Every new player receive 1000 point at the start, you can bet 100 point maximum on each game. (Obviously no money involved, it’s just for fun)

Round 3 odding bets Odd in [], chace of win in ()  :

• [1,66] FPX – TH [2,52] (FPX 60%)
• [1,96] FUT – LEV [2,05] (FUT 51 %)
  I think my bot is probably wrong on both to be fair, but I kinda agree with the fact both team are kinda close.

Ranking :

• 1st Dolphin 918
• 2nd Novinho_pirocudo 979
  Is bot in positive ? Bot is currently + 103

Result of lasts rounds
R1

• [1.7] G2 - T1 [2.42] : (G2 59%, G2)
• [1.61] FPX - FUT [2.63] : (FPX 62%)
• [1.61] GEN - LEV [2.63] : (GEN 62%)
• [1.48] TH - DRG [3.07] : (TH 67%)
  R2
• [1,99] G2 - TH [2,01] : (G2 50,2%)
• [1,92] FPX - GEN [2,08] (FPX 52%)
• [1,79] LEV - T1 [2,26] : (LEV 56%)
• [1,53] FUT - DRG [2,88] : (FUT 65%)

A LAN on top of Macchu pichu would be absolutely dope.

I donno which val influencer said it would be nice to have different format for differentiate different masters, but the idea of having one master a year in a neat place outdoor with semi-extreme condition could be weird, but also kinda intresting. Imagine you can say "yeah I won a trophy on the top of Macchu Pichu"

Fun ! But sadfully 2-4 was kinda bad, I hope they do better next stage

Who you put above ? Only TE might be better right ?

Boise isn't one of the fastest growing city in the US ? At least Idaho is the fastest growing state ! https://www.citypopulation.de/en/usa/states/admin/

I see FUT as a gatekeeper, it's neither a good nor a bad team, it's a team that will loose against champions contender team and win against bad team, the fact they were a lot in international event recently isn't a good sign for UE.

Inercy : Team doesnt have enough time to train other comps

Ranking by the bot
PRX 111
EDG 91
FNC 81
GEN 72
100T 57
FPX 56
G2 52
TH 32
FUT 23
LEV 19
T1 5
DRG -13

Yeah China may be a little bit too overated, but not that mush, I think in S5 China will be more accurate

Instead of creating an insane number of trashtalk topics "NA sucks" "EM0A" etc... What would you think of vlr mod creating a pinned "Banter topic" for every T1 event ? So recent discussion isn't fully of trashtalk topic, and we may have more visibility on more calm and constructive topic ?

Bad idea ?

Probably what he mean but we really need to be careful about that, even I make the mistake, but we really need to stop calling "Am" "NA", thats not cool for SA teams