Hello all,
If you wonder how many team they are in every Premier contenders region and their relation with T2 region, I made stat for this (At the end of the 3rd map, after 4th map some region may have a little bit more team). To me it's an interesting stat because it gives us some demographics data. Usually it's 1 server = 1 premier league = T2 region, but they are some exceptions :

• Keep in mind NA is split in East and West giving us more precision on the data.
• Spain, Portugal and Italia are mixed in only in one premier region (Because they are only 1 serv), but we can make some research to guess exactly wish team is from what region (Flag of player on tracker, vlr, structure etc).
• For Premier Asia it is even harder, it regroups 6 T2 league and they are a lot of teams in the ladder, it was a lot of work to figure out where does come from every team and in wish T2 scene they will go if they win. (Not all of them is 100% sure)

MENA (Keep in mind that all those servers are close from each other, and in Europe almost everyone speak english meaning they are a lot of team that didn't hire player based on country or native language and those team tend to play in a more central server like Frankfurt for exemple, this is why this stats are way less interesting than stat in pacific and americas) :

• North (London/Stockholm) : 58
• East (Warsaw) : 40
• DACH (Frankfurt) : 75
• FR (Paris) : 59
• ME (Bahrain) : 17
• TR (Istanbul) : 26
• IBIT-ES (Madrid) : 22
• IBIT-PT (Madrid) : 5
• IBIT-IT (Madrid) : 2 (Keep in mind that Madrid isn't the closest server from Italia, wish mean Italian team might prefer to play in DASH or France, Italia is placed here probably because 1 year ago Italia was still a part of IBIT region that is now dissolved, and Italia dosn't have a server yet.)

Americas :

• BR (São Paulo) : 47
• LAS (Santiago/"Bogotá") : 38 (It's kinda weird, in T2, Columbia is part of LAN, not LAS, but wiki frame it in LAS so maybe it's a typo, I have find Columbian and Venezuelan team in LAN but not in LAS)
• LAN (Mexico City/Miami/Chicago) : 53 (T2 LAN region start from Mexico and end in Ecuador/Columbia)
• NAE (Ashburn/Atlanta/Dallas/Chicago ): 110
• NAW (Oregon/California/Dallas/Chicago ) : 41

APAC :

• KR (Seoul) : 36
• JP (Tokyo) : 60
• OCE (Sydney) : 47
• SA (Mumbai) : 50
• Asia-TWHK (Hong Kong/Singapore) : 13
• Asia-VN (Singapore/Hong Kong) : 12 (1 of team is Cambodian, for geographical region and cultural region, they will probably go in VN if they win)
• Asia-TH (Singapore/Hong Kong) : 29 (Lot of team that I was only 80% sure ended classified in Thailand, so maybe the number is a little bit more overestimated, but I think it's because Thai tend to put less their flag in tracker)
• Asia-PH (Singapore/Hong Kong) : 16 (Easiest part to do, almost all of them have their flag in Tracker)
• Asia-ID (Singapore/Hong Kong) : 21 (Not a lot of problems here)
• Asia-MYSG (Singapore/Hong Kong) : 21 (MYSG is probably the default T2 region for any team that will speak english but not their native language, because English is endemic in Singapore (96%), 19 team are really from MYSG, 1 team got players from Myanmar but the structure is from Singapore)
• Asia-???? : 5 (4 team are from Mongolia, I have no idea where Mongolian player will play, and that also raise the question of eastern Russian player, for ping reason they can't really play on EMEA server maybe Singapore is the best choice because almost everyone speak English, but it's really far, another option would be to play in Japan since a lot of eastern russian player plays in Japan but the main problem is that Japan isn't part of Premier server, and I'm not sure Riot can transfer them. For the last team [NDG] I wasn't able to have an enough level of confidence to class them somewhere, I suspect them to be Korean, not sure if they missclicked or if Riot can move them in case they win, or if they will have to play in Taiwan or Singapoure)

Because Premier Asia is a huge mess I think i'll do a post about where did I locate every team in every T2 scene so if I have mistake people could correct me (Will probably do that next week, with a list of team that are already qualified)

I didn't find anything yet :/

Thanks !
If you have sources I gladly take it ^-^

If I understand correctly, winner of playin will go against winner of group A except if winner of playin is the 2nd of group A, right ?
So in that Scenario:

• DRX would have 100% chance to not play against PRX if they go through playin
• DRX would have 33% chance to not play against PRX if they finish first

Your stats are correct if the pairing is random but didn't they say it wasn't the case ?

Yup thats also a possibility where Sentinels gets indirectly get nerf by Skye's nerf, Dive/Vip/Smoke mandatory and then Vision+Flash (Even duelflash)

Skye Nerf = Now we may need 2 initiators instead of one, and since they are some map where you can play 0 sentinels (Bind and Split), and you might need a Diver+Viper+Smoke, you can have a situation where Skye and the Sentinel, get replaced by Fade/Breach.
That's why I feel Skye nerf = Indirect Sentinel nerf (the class, not the team), it's not a huge nerf obviously, but still a small one.

The problem is they are no pauses betweeen tournament, not the number of pro game IMO

4 games per stages if you are in the group of 5, so if you are bad and unlucky you will do 2 game in the Lockin, 4 games in split 1, and 4 game in split 2. so a total of 10 Bo in the year. For a comparison, in master Copenhagen 2022, FPX made 9 BO.

Interesting POV but I kinda disagree with that, in League of Legends it's a curse, nobody care about T2 NA scene (Because it's the same proximity as tier 1) and they have a lot of issue finding new player (they import a lot), if you compare with EU, they are a lot of team and plenty more of occasion to new player to blossom, and people enjoy T2 because they have a sense of proximity.
It's a little bit different for Valorant because since T1 NA doesn't exist, so T2 NA might a little bit fill the gap, but still, not having enough spot in T2 might be a long term problem for new player because not enough possibility to prove themself, plus more T2 have proximity, more people can care about it and create rivalries, for exemple France vs Spain rivalries is a huge thing, and I'm sure a West coast - East coast rivalry could be an amazing thing in Valorant.
Maybe a compromise would be to have West group, East group, but mixed playoffs ?

Also, do you think next year we will be 2 groups of 6, or one unique group or 8 or 10 ?

Hello, this year premier mode will be the way to qualify in Tier 2 scene, and every region except NA got "One Premier zone = at least 1 challenger league" (It's almost 1 zone = league, except of IBIT [Iberia-Italia], and "Asia" [Asean+'System2China']), the only exception is America have 2 zones West and East, (both zone feature Chicago and Dallas), but only 1 challenger league. If you count every team in Premier Contenders the biggest region have around 30 teams in contenders, only Asia got 54 (but it's a supraregion that have 6 T2 league, so that mean they have basically 9 team per T2 league, so that doesn't really count), LAN got 42 (Maybe one day Central America and Bolivarian states will be split in 2), and NA got 65 ! (42 in east, 20 in west, maybe east should split into Northern/Southern)

So NA is currently by far the biggest tier 2 region, and is already split in two groups of 6, but because every T2 scene got the same number of spot they dont have more ascension team than other american region (If you consider Latam being only one region, but I admit they a weird in an in-between status). To me having 2 group split with no identity is kinda weird, and I would rather see 2 distinct leagues (NAW-NAE) that will both have 2 slots in ascension and letting LAN/LAS have both 2 more team in ascention, so every ascension in every region would have 10 teams. If Riot plan to split NA this year, that would also explain why we have no info about T2 NA yet (At least I didn't find any, it has no liquipedia page yet), it's because a it's a process that take time, and they are potentially still doing a selection for the 2 leagues. Another weird fact is that last year they were 12 NA team, but during the relegation tournament, no team from T3 where allowed, the tournament only feature 4 bottom NA team and 2 of them where drop out, meaning for 2024 it would probably have 10 teams like in France or Spain, maybe they were considering to have only one group for 2024 ? What is even more weird is that on VLR page, some teams are voided only 4 team are announced, even if 10 teams were planned at the end of last year, (M80, Oxy, MoistxShopify, Turtle), what happened to the 6 other ? Well of course the Guard got promoted, G2 kinda disband after they acquire TGRD sport, Moist-Shopify fused (even if some ex Mogul seems to stay and maybe they are finding a new sponsor or brand and stay next year), but what about TSM, FaZe and ORE ? Are they disbanding ? Changing sponsor ? But even if thoo 4 are here, that mean only 8 team planned this year. Because of this year instability, they are many possibilities and maybe it's the occasion for Riot to change T2 NA for the future
So what are the possibility I can think of for this year (And I'm not even sure Riot have 100% choose yet, explaining why they are no announce) :

• Status quo : Riot replace the teams and nothing change for this year, and we have 2 group of 6.
• Solo group : Perfect moment to stop having 2 groups and having only 8/10 teams this year (Even if 10 team for a region that big may be not enough)
• Temp solo group : 8 team for first split, for split 2, we come back to status quo with 12 teams in 2 group with team from premier being promoted.
• Early NA split : NA will split in 2 right at the beginning of next season, and selection process isn't over yet.
• Rushed NA split : NA split 1 will be after the end of Premier (Early marsh), and split in 2 group of 6 or 8, letting premier team fill the remaining spots (Weird but not that impossible, since Korea almost start 1 week before the end of premier)
• Late NA split : Start with one group of 8 for split 1, ask them if they want to be west or east next split, and split NA in NAW-NAE for split 2 giving the remaining slot to premier team (as it is supposed to be)

What possibility do you think it's the more realist for next year ?
Do you think Riot plan to separate NA in two also in challenger league ?
Do you wish they split NA in 2 ?
If they split, how many slots do you think every region of America will have ?
Would you like a Southern US Premier for 2025 to make West/East more balance ?

This is an extract of my database where I put all T1 games, the extract show only champions. the right colon is 1 for a victory and 0 for a defeat. The 2 first lign are the first game, the lign 3 and 4 are the 2nd game etc.

As you can see the composition is :

• Duelist (1st Col) : Raze
• Scrambler (2nd Col) : Viper or Breach
• Vision (3rd Col) : Skye
• Sentinel (4th Col) : Jett, Cypher, Chamber, Kjoy are both valid
• Smoke (5th Col) : Omen or Astra

6 7W DRX SPL Raze Vipe Skye Kjoy Omen 1
9 7W LOUD SPL Raze Brea Skye Kjoy Astr 0
20 7W NAVI SPL Raze Jett Skye Cyph Omen 1
23 7W DRX SPL Raze Vipe Skye Kjoy Omen 0
26 7W NRG SPL Raze Vipe Skye Jett Astr 0
28 7W BLG SPL Raze Vipe Skye Cyph Omen 1
37 7W PPR SPL Raze Vipe Skye Jett Astr 1
39 7W KRU SPL Raze Vipe Skye Cham Astr 0
41 7W EDG SPL Raze Vipe Skye Jett Astr 0
44 7W GIA SPL Raze Brea Skye Cyph Omen 1
52 7W TL SPL Raze Vipe Skye Jett Astr 0
54 7W LOUD SPL Raze Brea Skye Kjoy Astr 1
81 7W EDG SPL Raze Vipe Skye Jett Astr 1
83 7W GIA SPL Raze Brea Skye Cyph Omen 0
101 7W EG SPL Raze Vipe Skye Cham Astr 0
104 7W EDG SPL Raze Vipe Skye Jett Astr 1
107 7W FNC SPL Raze Brea Skye Cyph Omen 1
109 7W FUT SPL Jett Vipe Skye Kayo Omen 0
112 7W BLG SPL Raze Vipe Skye Cyph Omen 1
115 7W EDG SPL Raze Vipe Skye Jett Astr 0
118 7W LOUD SPL Raze Brea Skye Kjoy Astr 1
121 7W PPR SPL Raze Vipe Skye Jett Astr 0
129 7W DRX SPL Raze Vipe Skye Kjoy Omen 0
132 7W FNC SPL Raze Brea Skye Cyph Omen 1
145 7W FNC SPL Raze Brea Skye Cyph Omen 0
148 7W LOUD SPL Raze Brea Skye Kjoy Astr 1
154 7W EG SPL Raze Vipe Skye Cham Astr 0
159 7W LOUD SPL Raze Brea Skye Kjoy Astr 1
161 7W PPR SPL Raze Vipe Skye Jett Astr 0
165 7W EG SPL Raze Vipe Skye Jett Astr 1

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I can't wait to see if they will create a VCT China, or maybe expand APAC

It's an American that saying that. The country with the most people in jail per habitant and the most paranoiac customs officer that will dig into your life if you try to put a foot in the country XD

Even if I love USA (Because of all the culture you give us), it's probably one of the 3 country (With North Korea and Eritrea) I would be too afraid to go in there.

I'ts twice the same game...

Why Pearl game doesn't appear in the agent stat ?