I'm not sure, they shined because of their comp, but I think it was more the "surprise effect",doble sentinels are good to surprise, but thats the archetype that is the most easiest get antistrat
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I'm not sure, they shined because of their comp, but I think it was more the "surprise effect",doble sentinels are good to surprise, but thats the archetype that is the most easiest get antistrat
"Chamber got nerfed 3 months before yay was dropped."
And ? What is important here is that they sign a Chamber main in order to make a gameplan around him playing Chamber... To get destroyed by a change of meta.
"Signing a mid cs player and having him turn into one of the biggest Val pros is pretty lucky."
They didn't have any benefit from putting of of the greatest player in Val scene
I tend to agree witht that, but I'm doble smoker enjoyer
That doesnt change they where unlucky to sign here right after the nerf of their signature
C9 is the most unlucky org to me. Detect Tenz and lend it to Sen that did good and find themself in a situation where either they keep Tenz and attire hate of every NA fans, or loose on of best player in world. Hire Yay next week Chamber get giganerf and all their gameplay and system for the year have to change. Then get out by EG and would probably be in world if EG wasn't become one of best team in a short space (and get out with an OT)
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Hi vlr, today we are gonna review the composition in Bind for the 8 team that participate in Master Bangkok. Keep in mind that team might change their composition. So here is the composition that the 8 team has played.
G2 didn’t play Bind, but it was not their permaban. T1 and TL have both same number of win, than number of loose, while the 5 other team have only one more win than loose, Sentinel didn’t has loose the map but thats mean they played it only once. So it’s hard to guess wish team will be best, Bind sounds as a neutral map that map that may be a decider in a lot of cases.
About meta, everyone plays brimstone, everyone plays Raze.
Half of team play Viper, Sentinel, Drx, Vitality and Liquid. And half of team play Vyze, T1, EDG and Trace.
For the 2 remaining spot, everyone play 2 initiator expect Trace that play Deadlock with Fade. For their 2 initiators, the 6 remaining teams hey play either Kayo, Geko, Skye and Tejo and every combination of 2 of thoose 4 agent are played by at least one of this 6 team beside Skye paired with Kayo.
Tejo plus Kayo : DRX and EDG
Tejo plus Geko : Sentienls
Tejo plus Skye : Vitality
Geko plus Skye : Liquid
Geko plus Kayo : T1
So in conclusion, Raze and Brimstone make a consensus, Trace is the only team that not plays 2 initiators, and you can pick any combo of 2 initiators has long as you have one reveal and one flasher, and they are a debate between team that pick Viper and team that pick Vyze. No team seems ahead on Bind, so it will be an instresting map to watch in this masters. See you in the next one and… byyyeee...
Hi vlr, sorry I'm ill so I kinda lack of energy and my voice is even weirder, but thats not because i'm dead that we wont talk about Bind meta
tldw ;
Do you prefer Viper or Vyze ?
If thats true that makes absolutely no sense T.T
Wait, king will still be the IGL despite having Rossy ?
Ascent, Icebox worst mapool T.T
Next split it's a new agent but i'm confident we will have a new map soon
Vitality has only firepower, no teamplay, so yeah, except if you have a huge weakpoint to point in DRX (but yeah G2 seems really amazing)
Why you say that my bro ? What is the pb ?
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Hi vlr, today we are gonna review the composition in Lotus for the 8 team that participate in Master Bangkok. Keep in mind that team might change their composition. So here is the composition that the 8 team has played.
The 2 team with the best tracking reccord have both 3 win for 0 loose and it’s T1 and Trace Esport, every other team isn’t convincing on Lotus. Vitality and G2 have win but they played only once, TL and Sentinels have 1 win and 1 loose. DRX have a bad tracking reccord with 1 win for 2 loose, and EDG is last and have only 1 win for 3 loose.
About agents, for the main smoker it’s kinda easy, everyone play Omen, beside TL that play Clove. But takes notes that EDG also play Clove but still paired with an Omen
About Reveal we have some choice, Sova was play by T1 and EDG. Tejo solo-reveal was play by G2 and Sentinels but on first game of, takes notes that Tejo is also played in doble-reveal composition for DRX, but the 5 other team play Fade, including Sentinels on their last game.
So as a diver, everyone ended the kickoff playing Raze, beside EDG that play Neon, and G2 that plays Yoru. Sen have try to play Neon but switched on Raze.
We can also see some switch about Viper, because, beside T1 that plays Iso and Cypher, and EDG that plays Clove and Breach, every top 2 teams ended the kickoff playing Viper, even if Sentinels started the season with Breach-Vyze and removed the Breach and DRX tryed an alternative composition with Vyze and 2 reveal instead of Viper and 2 reveals.
So now for the last picks, the main choice is Vyze used by Sentinels, Trace and Vitality, but they are still some alternatives like Viper-Breach for G2, Viper-and-Tejo for DRX and the infamous Viper and Reyna for TL.
So in conclusion it seems on Lotus, the main composition is Raze-Fade-Omen-Viper, but it’s possible to make variation around this, and removing one agent, or picking whatever you want as last. DRX and T1 but have both decided to pick no flasher, beside Omen. G2, EDG, Liquid but also DRX again have decided to play without a sentinel, while Sentinels, Trace and Vitality, manage to play both Flasher and Sentinel with a 2nd controllerr, thanks to the fact Vyse is an hybrid agent that is both Flasher and Sentinel. byyye
no, the important is to have fun. Who care about your level, while you do your best it's ok
Hi vlr, I suppose you always can't read, so today Lotus, an interesting map.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNPrMpHaF8M&feature=youtu.be
tldw ; Main composition is Raze-Fade-Omen-Viper, but you can make modification. 3 philosophy :
I have no idea this is weird, to me it should have a rule that grant to every GC team that manage to go in T2 a direct place in champions GC
I was more talking about NACS the league 2 of NA, while the national league in EMEA that is combined league 2 did an amazing job. But yeah you are right, thats also true for LCS thatd also found a HUGE loophole that just destroyed the region on the long term, wish is pretty sad. T.T
This post is not a good concept, you can't now if TE and TL will meet each other in round 2, make a poweranking instead of trying to guess the draw after round 1...
What ? In LoL NA where suffering from having no T2, no good academics team while some of our best team competed in special tournament that hyped a lot and make blossom a lot of rookie. Our structure invest in detetion always good to find hidden gems while NA where perpetually recycling washed player from all around the world. I think the problem of NA culture is that they don't have academics team culture, but they need to develop it otherwise they gonna have a stagnation, and it's good Riot push them to have it (To me every T1 team should have a aca team, and I hope that will be something that will be an obligation when the franchise will be renew)
Didnt they loose twice against G2 ?
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Hi vlr, today we are gonna review the composition in Haven for the 8 team that participate in Master Bangkok. Again team might change their composition, But anyway here is the composition that the 8 team has played on their last games.
EDG and Liquid is the team with the best tracking reccord with 3 win for 0 loose, Senitnels, T1 and Trace are the 3 team with one more loose than win. While G2, DRX and Vitality have one more win than loose.
About smoker, everyone plays Omen expect G2 that play Astra.
About sentinels, everyone plays Cypher, expect G2 that plays Vyze and Trace that play Killjoy
About reveal, everyone plays Sova beside G2 and TL that plays Tejo
For the 2 last offensive agent, we can notice something intresting, the choice of an 4th agent will impact the pick of the last agent. Senitnels, T1 and Vitality, both play Iso, and thats force them to plays Yoru, to keep a flash and a diver. The only team that play Yoru without an Iso is G2, and they play him with Breach, wish is the most picked agent on this last spot. Trace play Breach with a Neon, while EDG and TL play Breach with a Jett. The last composition is DRX and it’s the only one that plays with no flasher, they play Jett with a Tejo.
In conclusion, Omen, Cypher and Sova almost make a consensus, beyond that, haven will see on this master, a fight between 2 main philosphy Yoru-Iso, versus Breach and a more traditionnal diver, maenning while G2 and DRX have their own philosophy on the map, far from the 6 other team. Thanks for listening to me and byyye.
Hi vlr, as always I know you hate read, so here is another video that make the preview on masters, this time Haven.
tldw ; Omen, Cypher, and Sova are amost consensual, they are 2 main philosophy Yoru-Iso versus Breach-Dive, and then you have DRX and G2 that created their own meta.
Do you prefer Yoru-Iso or Breach-NoFlashDive ? Or maybe the alternatives G2 and DRX does ?
I've cast more game on LoL than on Val... So i'm E :c
The systematical nekophobia should stop :c
(I bet you see video of neko purring with a dumb smile when nobody watch it like every nekophobes O.O)
But the name of the video, if for a video that tease the masters, maybe not the agent ?
Source for duelist ? It sounded as Smokes (And damn we definitly need more smokes, it's the only role that have 100% pickrate each game and it's the role with less agent T.T)
Not really sure of that, in France KC have just bought young player that couldn't play T1 anyway, it's a good things because they buy player that could win ascension but indeed not participate into T1. Aca team kinda work well in EMEA usually, I donno how it is in NA, but T2 NA scene in lol was always old washed player and NA where never able to make yound NA player shine, donno if thats can happen in Val too.
So basically cholesterol is better than cholera, and I could agree with that all format are trash, EMEA Tournament organisator is in shamble and I start to hope that Riot start to organize T2 and T3 themself, I understand they need some space for the EMEA supra tournament, but this too mush... Group of less than 6 people are not acceptable (and even group of 6 is not good), BO1 ? Also not good. The situation is ridiculous
In the series : Map preview for Bangkok, today Pearl, not my best one, I was less inspired on this one. Again presentiation of the 8 last composition by everyteam to say.
tldw ; Huge fight between neon, Yoru and Raze. Astra and Sova are consensual, all of them pick at least one sentinel, then it's open for the last pick. (No double controller, even if I think that's good but that me)
What team have the best Pearl ?
Thanksu, but for once it's more descriptive than prescriptive, so not really sure if thats the best choice (Especially for ranked ewe)
Thanksu, one day i'll see the light of loss, loose, lose XD
(Next video are already ready so dont expect it to see correction in the few next one >.>
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Hi vlr, today we are gonna review the composition in Split for the 8 team that participate in Master Bangkok. Keep in mind that team might change their composition. So here is the composition that the 8 team has played in kickoff
Trace esport is the only team that didn’t play split, but it’s not a permaban, it’s only their 2nd ban and technically they played it right after kickoff so we will see… The team with the best tracking reccord is Liquid with 3 wins for 0 loose, then Sentinels have 3 wins for 1 loose, then DRX and EDG have play the map once and win. Vitality have 1 win and 1 loose, same for T1 with their most used composition but have they 1 more loose for an alternative composition, and G2 have only 1 loose.
Let’s adress the elephant in the room, Viper was almost played by everyone beside DRX that replaced her by Cypher for the only game they played.
Omen was also almost played by everyone beside G2 and Liquid that both replaced him by an Astra.
Same for Raze played by everyone except the 2 american team that played Yoru instead.
For the last 2 pick, everyone played at least a flasher and a reaveal, Breach-Tejo was the main choice, played by G2, Sentinels and DRX, while EDG played a Skye-Tejo and Vitality a Breach-Fade. Liquid played Yoru-Fade, and T1 hesitated between copying Liquid or picking a Skye that can both flash and reveal, allowing them to pick a Chamber.
In conclusion Spilt was a really diverse map in the past but it may not be true in the next masters, sure you can still make some variation to compositions, but it seems the meta is going in favor of 2 smoker, 1 diver, 1 flasher and 1 reaveal without a sentinel. Raze-Beach-Tejo-Viper-Omen have the lead, but you can make some variation, and for exemple include an agent like Yoru, since he did really good for liquid as a 2nd duelist, and for Sentinel as a main duelist. Byye.
To answer the question :
India are too poor today to shine, but the pool of player enlarge every day as the region develop, but since they are no Indian player in the T1 it develop less fast than it should. Thats why I want GE die, I want an Indian team that truly represent india even if they end in 0-12 at the end of the year, representation is the only thing that make the pie grow.
The GDP of the country is one of the fastest growing in the world, with a growing population, and they are already the most populated country, so yeah, I believe in 5 or 10 years India will be a major actor of Val, will have mush more playerbase, mush more good player, only thing they need : more experience of T1, wish is not the case because of GE, and Indian selfbashing.
Chat GPT ? It doesnt even answer the question x)
Epstein ?
(What are you talking about, "not this kinda of rap'" ?)
Still wanting to cover another map, today i'll cover Split, show the compare the composition on the map of the 8 team but also their number of loss and win on the map, don't hesitate to subscribe
tldw ; No pick is consensual, but we have a Raze-Breach-Tejo-Viper-Omen meta, and the composition with 1 dive, 1 flash, 1 reveal, 2 ctrl without a sentinel is more and more played
To you who, have the best Split ?
Mental barrier, they receive so mush hate and doubt, when you start loosing you can spiral
No worry more time will pass, more acadmy team will hire the gem under 18 and the problem will be solve. It'sa really smart move by Faria
The problem when you pick Killjoy, is that you basically play without your ultimate
For once I show no statistics and give precious insight it's just purely descriptive of composition T.T
I think I would not consider it postfranchised era, but I would consider they does prefranchised ERA.
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Hi vlr, today we are gonna review the composition in Fracture for the 8 team that participate in Master Bangkok. Keep in mind that team might change their composition, ansd it’s especially true for Fracture. So here is the composition that the 8 team has played.
DRX is the team with best tracking reccord with 3 win for 0 loose, G2 and EDG are second with 2 win for 0 loose, and Vitality have 1 win and 0 loose, the 4 other teams have 1 more defeat than victory.
About composition it seems, they are some consensus, first, everyone play the classical archetype, so a diver, a initiator-flasher, a initiator-reveal, a sentinel and a smoker. About agent : everyone plays Brimstone and Everyone plays Breach.
About reveal, almost everyone ended the kickoff playing Tejo, even if TL started with Gekko and T1 started without initiator with Neon-Raze. The onl 2 y team that didn’t end the kickoff playing Tejo where the 2 chinese team, but they ended the kickoff 2 week before the other region and having less time to train Tejo before the kickoff, but more time to train Tejo after the Kickoff. So maybe Trace will drop their Sova for a Tejo and maybe EDG will drop their Fade for a Tejoa. And in that case Breach-Tejo-Brimstome may end on a full consensus.
And the pick Tejo is really intresting, because Killjoy was meta last time Fracture was on the mapool, but it seems Tejo break Killjoy pickrate on the map, in my video about Tejo I was saying that Tejo is a hardcounter for Killjoy, and I think what we saw during the kickoff, kinda confirm it. DRX and T1 have both start the kickoff with Killjoy, but they decided to drop her, in the middle of the kickoff, probably because Tejo is a hard counter of Killjoy, and the only team that ended the kickoff playing Killjoy, was EDG, that faced teams that didn’t had enough time to train Tejo. So beside EDG nobody ended the kickoff playing Killjoy, Liquid and T1 ended playing Cypher, while the 5 other teams ended the kickoff playing Vyze.
About Duelist, Sentinels plays Yoru, the 2 chinese team plays Neon and every other team play Raze, Even if Liquid started the season by playing a Sage instead a duelist...
Hi vlr, master Thailand arrive soon, so this is a short video comparing the different composition on fracture for the 8 qualified team, and analyzing the evolution on the map between the start of the kickoff and the end of the kickoff. Dont hesitate to subscribe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8-KlcCR3BI&feature=youtu.be
tldw ; Brim and Breach are mandatory. At start of kickoff KJ and Tejo where equal, at end of kickoff everyone stopped played KJ and go Vyze or Cypher, and everyone played Tejo (Beside China but they finish 2 weak earlier and have less time to prepare Tejo). As I was saying in a previous video Tejo is a hardcounter for KJ
Who do you think have the best Fracture ?
2 good agent in a raw by Riot, good agent that are meta, good agent that are not frustrating to play against, team making the agent is sooo back.
I can't wait to see next agent (Probably a Smoker)
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