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bobosian
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Why did alecks drop patmen. Ik this conversation is way to dead but why, patmen was their key player. He is loud and good in communication, he a very supportive player where the other players are down his still up and cheer them up.
Patmen was like their key player that help them win their trophy ( but mini help the most) why would alecks drop him for invy where like invy is almost the complete opposite of patmen?
Is it he wants more firepower or??
No hate to invy
Btw im not blaming invy he oso help prx go b2b finals im just curious what going through alecks mind.

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potofgold
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ig he kanchiong, sure in terms of fire power hes better but patmen will always be the smarter player

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pmoTS
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in paper invy is the best choice it just that forsaken has been dogshit this year

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MatikaneTannhauser
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hindsight harry here!
they should've just replaced forsaken

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bobosian
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Pretty sure forsaken was still performing well during Toronto and he was still new to smokes role(?) i could be wrong cause i have forgotten

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ilyGhost
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his smokes are good but his frags arnt as good as before

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yeah he was good in Toronto but that was last year, this year he hasnt been greaet

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LuRi
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he is so average on omen now. he is not even big game player now. like really really average. they should get karon or patmen(who can also flex). And i like Forsaken

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Alecks could've removed f0rsaken for primmie for firepower but decided to remove patmen

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catzin
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they're not falcons they don't have the money to buy out primmie

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potofgold
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he was teamless cuz talon got nuked at the end of 2025 though

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catzin
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pretty sure full sense had to buy out the talon roster

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they wouldnt of made it anywhere close to two b2b top 2's with patmen

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irishsamingg
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holy shit another invy thread i cant believe people still blaming invy are prx fans these dumb they cant see the clear problem in the team

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bobosian
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Im not blaming invy but patmen help them won their first trophy

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irishsamingg
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patman didnt btw they won their first trophy because of mini and they had dicipline that time btw but sure blame invy all you want

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bobosian
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( mini help most) did u read? Im not blaming invy im just saying about the difference between patmen and invy

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potofgold
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f0rsaken probably goes to indonesian sub region next year anyways

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He could change nationality to thai too if he married with his gf

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serot
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invy is a better individual ever so slightly but patmen is by far the better player overall
I will die on this hill
more vocal, more involved in the midround, and can shoot back just as well usually

honestly, patmen was a leash on the PRX players, which was why they managed to win toronto

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found my people, ive been telling this before this is why patmen clears invy

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familybusiness
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fork found in kitchen type shit,

well in paper invy is better than patmen and pat was shit in their champs run, and even if pat stayed it wont solve their problems because their problems are rooted from their playstyle and not having good discipline

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D4ViDBraaahhhh
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hard agrree

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kyochchoke
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Honestly think if they kept the discipline in masters toronto, every thing would have been different but somehow it regressed despite only changing one player

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familybusiness
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son they only won in toronto because people didnt think they'd have a bit discipline and just expected them to keep peeking, just look at the last round at toronto

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bobosian
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I agree with this statement

#27
Nouzenvlr
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no if you watch the comms patmen controls them by not throwing and giving ideas and support jingg utility wise, its just they didnt give pat to grow and I think some players dont want to be controlled by pat

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prxrie
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objectively, invy fits prx better than patmen as they need a perma ini, they also have been eyeing invy for a long time and were supposed to get him in 2025 but invy was still under contract with ts jail. also, a team full of fraggers (prx) holds patmen back.

the main difference from prx with patmen vs prx with invy is f0rsaken's (and ig others) performance

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prxrie
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also, can we all agree that this patmen vs invy IS NOT the problem...

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D4ViDBraaahhhh
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the only difference with patmen was that he used to call out when they were about to throw

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mondely
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from alecks pov, patmen underperformed at champs and he thought a firepower upgrade in invy who is an actual initiator and is flexible would be good. You have to remmember that alecks also wanted to get invy for awhile now even before patmen so he was prob daydreaming abit about the possibility of invy joining his team still despite alr having patmen.

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Yuut
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Still blaming Invy is crazy. I've said this before, Invy is the better initiator, PRX lost not because of Invy, they lost because they're back to the old school no discipline team. It's a team game, if you really think Patmen is really the "key" to winning then GE would've won it all. IT'S A TEAM GAME.

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