i will clarify

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okay guys i know someof us think playing trans in gamechangers gives them biological advantages but hear me out

gc is not only women its for all marginalised genders so unless all women say we only want women tournament we should just let them be
i am not saying i support trans people or i hate them, i just belive everyone are entitled to live their own lifes their own way...
also i am fine to let them play in mens roasters btw there is no rule saying they cant...
as for biological advantage i feel trans people go through much worse then normal people and it also takes courage to step up and also i dont feel it makes much of a difference in esports at the very least.for instance i believe mimi can play in any men's vct roaster and hold her own..

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I dont get what this accomplishes

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what does anything said here accomplish

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thats what im saying

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That's what term³ said

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You're correct it is for women and whatever other marginalised you wanna be so it's fine.
Everyone is entitled to their own lives and how they wanna live and be but people are also allowed to have opinions on those people and not have to be called a name? They can exist and be whatever they want couldn't care less but it being a public shaming if you don't agree with that is weird and odd.
There is a biological advantage but yes it's not massive and doesn't matter. Mimi can play in a VCT roster if she practiced in the VCT yes the reason alot of game changers are not making VCT appearances is because they like the nice environment of game changers but then they go into T2 and get smoked only a select few in which I respect take the full leap and actually try to stop farming GC and give their all to try and get into the main league.

That was the whole point of GC no?

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there is no scientific recording of men having a biological advantage in any sort of video game. the only 'advantage' men have is being socialised into gaming from a young age whilst women get usually entirely the opposite

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Men have faster reaction times and other things that could be more beneficial when it comes to gaming but it isn't a major stat that would show evidence of men being better at video games but yes you're correct with similar time and experience Men and women are the same skill wise but social problems make this gap larger.

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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3198384/
this outlines that the difference is ~20ms, and it could be the same if women didn't false start more frequently
in a table towards the end of the study it shows around the same data
i did skim tho, make me look stupid by reading in detail

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additionally the difference is attributed to short stature and large differences in leg muscle mass, which should not apply to gaming

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stop this cope
gc women players in first world country whose life is way better than someone from south east asia still get cleared by these kids who arent even allowed to play valorant by their parents

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enerii, one of the best GC players rn, is literally from indonesia

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endoist who isnt even allowed to play tier 1 because of his studies clears any woman valorant player ever
even primmie was about quit valorant for studies until crws convinced his parents
these players come from region where even playing video games is considered a taboo, u as an indian should know this
still they clear any gc woman player from na or eu who had their lives way better than them

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what do you think this proves though?
that there are cracked kids playing video games? yea man i think we all knew that

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even playing video games is considered a taboo

i, as an indian teenage boy, know for a fact that my parents, nor do anyone else parents, give a fuck about children playing video games from time to time. if you're talking about esports careers tho, any parent can watch their child win a tournament and realise that they've got potential, hell primmie's parents got contacted by Talon themselves. endo can quit t1 for uni literally because its a flexible career in thailand

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you create the point that these 'valorant prodigies' playing video games is taboo and their parents dont agree with it, on the other hand this is the same for all women, not just some from certain countries

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true i agree to your point 2 but its like if you and me post a tweet saying our opinion the cost of it is not big enough but if you are a public facing person the cost suddenly is very high, accept it or not if you are celebrity in any level you have to be careful on what you say... it his right to give his opinion but he gotta pay the cost for it too.... sadly in this current state of world, getting cancelled or getting hated is pretty damn easy..