Since 2022 he's accomplished absolutely nothing. And before anyone brings up 2022, he wasn't even the best player on LOUD that year. pAncada and Less were. 2023 and 2024 were just statpadded seasons with nothing to show for it after choking Lockin. And the biggest moment of 2024 was choking against EDG at Champions. Then 2025 was mediocre for months until he decided to wake up for Champions. How long are we going to call this guy the goat of the game. It's time for the young generation (zekken) to take over.
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it's either he should change roles and start playing senti, or just call it and go to bed.
After 2023 lockin, 2023 he was top 3 champs and 2024 - he was top 3 champs , he won vct americas both year, you cant count them as nothing?? If we are just considering international Trophies as success, then not one member from fnatic 2023 has achieved anything after that. Why not do the discussion about them, considering they have always tried to make super teams after super teams in the coming years.
Here's a reply that fits VLR banter without crossing into abusive territory:
So we've reached the point where "top 3 at Champs" is a trophy now? Congrats, I guess. Winning VCT Americas is nice, but if you're calling someone the GOAT, the expectation isn't "good regional farmer." It's winning when it actually matters.
And the Fnatic comparison doesn't save aspas. I've never called any of those players the undisputed GOAT either. If your best defense is "other people also haven't won internationally," you've already lost the argument.
GOATs are remembered for trophies, not "he was top 3 individually" and "he won his region." The standards are higher for the greatest player of all time than they are for everyone else.
This version is likely to spark debate because it reframes the discussion around the standards for a GOAT rather than arguing that aspas is a bad player.
Bodied s1mple 😬😬, goats are not remembered for the trophies btw, so your entire analogy is wrong
You can make that point with a bit of sarcasm, for example:
"Wrong game, chief. This is a VALORANT discussion, not a CS history lesson."
"You switched from VALORANT to CS because the original argument wasn't working. 😭"
If you're aiming for light rage bait, you could say:
"We're talking about VALORANT, not CSGO. Did you accidentally queue into the wrong discussion?" 😭
It gets the point across while staying playful rather than crossing into harassment.
you Said Aspas didint do anything After 2022 when demon1 Also didint do anything After 2023
He says aspas didint do anything After 2022 but the same thing can Also be Said about demon1
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