Who wouldve thought after 2023 that they would be this ass? NGL, Im kind of shocked in retrospect by how underwhelming theyve been overall. Like, imagine going back to 2023, seeing that Fnatic roster and the rest of EMEAs potential, and telling someone they wouldnt win a single international trophy after that
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outaimed by Amer he says..... this shit is hilarious
the region known for body spraying
they have cracked phantom users honestly even tho its generally body shots but they do get the kill most of the time
Some pretty bad luck + choking tendencies + moving away from a tactical based meta to a more gunfighty meta are the main problems.
If Boaster/Crashies weren't liabilities in big games (Crashies in every game) FNC almost certainly win in Toronto and Paris, and then the conversation becomes "wow omg EMEA is the best region they went 2/3 this year!!"
Same conversation in 2024 really, but TH should receive more grace as they were a team of rookies.
If you look holistically and compare average placement etc EMEA is not really much worse than AMER/APAC. however this year EMEA has very obviously stunk it up at internationals. why? because weaker teams (BBL, M8, FUT...) that are better at outshooting the opponents and weaker tactically win the "rock, paper, scissors" game with the rest of EMEA who are better in slower, more tactical games and much weaker at controlling aggression, then go to internationals and play teams from other regions who love that style and play against it every week. Being ran down by BBL is nothing special to PRX, for example.
agreed also i think americas are heavily overrated apac is the most competitive region though
are americas really overrated though? you got g2 and nrg who are strong representatives and SHOULD benefit from the neon nerfs on paper, lev who have strong firepower but unexperienced + heavily relied on neon to make it to london, lots of question marks there.
Yeah, personally I think americas is the best region coming into London. (however the lack of prep time is looking scary)
They are certainly the only region to send three "strong" teams out of their region
The entire "EMEA is bad" argument stands on a single leg which is that we havent won a trophy in very long because despite that obvious shortcoming we still have by far the best avg placement out of all 4 regions, so im just waiting for when we inevitably win an international and i can say we are the best region in the world without anyone having any valid arguments against it
emea creatures so down bad they're flexing average placements now 😭
1071 days and counting
Average American arrogance.
That's why you are all seen as clowns by the world.
| Region | Average Placement |
| -------- | ----------------: |
| EMEA | ~5.9 |
| Americas | ~6.2 |
| Pacific | ~6.5 |
| China | ~9.8 |
All the knowledge at his fingertips (AI) and all the cavemen can think about is banging 2 rocks together
How are these calculated?
(Timeframe, how tied placements are handled, how extra spots are handled, and anything else that was specifically taken into consideration)
franchising , and tied placements are counted as the average so if a team places 5th-6th it counts as 5.5, i dont really understand what you mean by extra spot tho, the only time a region had extra spots was champs 2023 and that actually hurt EMEAs avg placement
downvoted for the truth
You know ball and the hater (EU fans) is barking
are you genuinely delusional? like where did you even pull the "we still have by far the best avg placement out of all 4 regions" from LMFAO
go look at every single masters and champions from 2024-2026. EMEA isnt even top 3 most of the time. or top 4. its always americas/apac with more in the top 4.
i'm not trying to put you down but ur just coping, your region has nothing except potential, no placements or anything its a mediocre but POTENTIALLY GOOD region
that doesnt mean anything. i told you to go look at every masters/champions from 2024-2026. EMEA rarely ever has a team in top 4. sometimes they miss out entirely. americas/apac always has more teams in the top 4 consistently. as a region, americas/apac is very ahead.
"those literal statistics dont mean anything, they have bad placements because im a very emotional being who cant be objective in discussions so i just make shit up and hope people dont call me out on it"
well ur projecting, ur the only one thats upset lol. i've very clearly stated and outlined what u needed to go do to educate urself and prove urself wrong, but ur too emotional and in denial to accept it i guess.
"educate urself" do you understand how retarded someone has to be to think their opinion is more valid than factual statements?
glad u understand how much of an idiot you are lol. you just stated EXACTLY what ur doing by completely ignoring what i said earlier. also, get a hobby bro. i reply to you with hours in between and you reply instantly, why are you so pressed? just accept that ur region is shit lmao.
you can't even accept the actual facts and stats that i've presented from 2024-2026.
honestly.... i gotta give you props, you walk the line between "ragebait" and "mental retardation" so well that for the first time ever i cant tell which one it is, i respect the skill
fym "rarely top 4" out of the 7 internationals so far in that timespan there's been an EMEA team in the grand finals FOUR times
4/7 is 57% the region has been in the grand finals, let alone top 4, more than half the time (top four is 5 out of the 7 in that timespan)
I know they haven't won a finals in a long time but saying things like that just looks stupid on your part
so, having one team in the top 4 (4 times only in the finals) compared to americas/apac consistently having 2-3 teams in the top 4 is proving your point? wow ur pretty stupid lmao
again, as a region, still inferior to americas and apac and the LAN placements prove it. we're talking about regional strength. SOMETIMES having one team make it to the finals doesnt trump consistently having 2 teams in the top 3/4 every event.
also, the 4 times doesn't even matter when u realize that of the last 7 tournaments, emea didnt even win a single one lmfao and americas/apac won those 7. so again, ur wrong on all fronts when we talk about "regional strength" as a whole.
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tbf 21 og days is the eu era but 23 is basically fnatic
and after that no fnatic which leads to no emea
emea played in 4/7 grand finals since then. All of them were rather close and from the lower bracket
alot of cope by emea fans no wonder yall didnt win shit 😂😂😂 but but we made finals but if this and that guy played better emea wouldve win. YEAH THATS NOT HOW THAT BULLSHIT WORKS. BECAUSE WHAT IF WE FLIPPED THAT AND SAID WHAT IF LOUD DIDNT CHOKE ON ICEBOX AND FNATIC LOST THEY WOULDVE CRUMBLED AFTER THAT AND NEVER EVEN WIN TOKYO
potential aahhh region type shit lmao
they are equivalent of fushiguro of valorant
Partnership system allows all asia teams to unite in 1 location (removing high ping barrier) instead of being segregated, If u give asia low ping and equal international slot, asia is very competitive. EMEA just face tougher improved competition, can't adapt and falls behind.
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