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most improved players from champs-now

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#1
cirruss
  1. artziN
  2. koalanoob
  3. Dambi
  4. PatMen
  5. bang/miniboo/izu
    thoughts?
#2
faloxxl
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patmen sneak

#3
catNmouse
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subpar at champs to being the best player on a good team

#4
InYourDreams
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What the Sneak he is best on the server

#6
faloxxl
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he was with superstar player now he's with mid players, he will shine more its obv thats all

#8
AnakinPodracer
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I feel like most of the time this actually makes the players look worse.

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macncheese
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thats just not how it works lol

#13
faloxxl
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u never experienced a team game then

#14
Not1
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Lol it was more like he was on initiator jail dealing with something and jingg mess ups.Now he is playing his comfort role in a comfortable team system. Prx wants a sacrificing initiator. That is making even invy look mid rn

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faloxxl
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that's what i said yea

#23
Vesslan
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No? This argument is about a system fitting him more, has nothing to do with the quality of his teammates? This is about criticizing PRX's system because not every team with superstars put their initiator through hell?

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faloxxl
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when ur playing with superstar u play for them, now this is just teamplay, when miniboo was on TH, he played for woot and riens, every team play for aspas, jawgemo is insane because he has this role but still insane, its the same everywhere

#25
Vesslan
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Sure, we can dissect this further but that's not "what you said". You said "superstars make him look bad and bad players make him look good". Jawgemo is insane because he has this role but still insane (what doe that even mean). Plus, they were making a specific criticism about PRX and not about playing with superstars overall.

#26
faloxxl
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he looked bad because he had the bad role, doing the dog for smthg and forsaken, now he can play HIS REAL gameplay, jaw has the role to always dive and die and still insane, that what i said just didn't develop

#27
Vesslan
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"That's what I said but I didn't develope" so you didn't say it LMAO. Bruh is hallucinating himself typing. So you shifted your goal post, you think you aren't arguing "superstars make him look bad and bad players make him look good" just cause you started changing (""developing"") your argument.

#5
cirruss
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patmen was an already good player who was looked at as weak and is now clearly the best player on a solid roster while looking better than ever individually

#7
shyshai
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broke a record, 516 acs btw

#10
landobey
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artzin ?
dambi was already good

#12
InYourDreams
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You should watch Furia vods

#17
cirruss
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artzin was the worst IGL in the entire world on MIBR in toronto, and made a ton of mistakes at champs. and now he’s the igl on the one seed in americas

Dambi was good but he is so much better now. he takes over maps effortlessly

#11
mondely
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marteen? bro was super inconsistent in 2025

#16
cirruss
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he was really good, stage 2 was bad but everyone was good. and the talent was already there

#19
mondely
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talent was obv there, he was inconsistent though

#21
cirruss
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he honestly does deserve a spot i just don’t know where to put him. if he can close out a bo5 i’d put him high

#28
cirruss
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ok nvm hes the best player itw

#18
Ryandr
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Why izu? He was always t1 best player most of the time. 2nd best in champs too.

#20
cirruss
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he was a good player but he’s never had this much success, he’s expanded his agent pool and has more solo carry potential than he had before

#22
cirruss
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this is coming from someone who has been an izu truther for a while too

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