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Sevire

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#1
looola

Dear VCT EMEA teams, pick him up, ty.

#2
NebularCarina
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WE will riot if PCF doesn't pick him up

#4
frnnnki
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Would PCF not still go for a full TR roaster all aim no brain? Im convinced TR orgs don't know you need strats to win in val.

#8
9wntr
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theyre going internation
qpert is confirmed and exit rumored

#12
MrBlooBloom
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didn't you just make up the Exit rumor?

#13
9wntr
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vct scrims dmed me talking about PCF Exit
and exit mentioned getting a new "offer" on his last stream so it would line up

#14
MrBlooBloom
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damn, that would be pretty cool, but if I were you I wouldn't want that too much cuz this team will be absolutely horrific fs so it wouldn't be good for him

#15
9wntr
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i mean i think itll do wonders for mena scenes if pcf do good with exit
but yeah
im just hoping theyll be competitive

#16
MrBlooBloom
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man Qpert is really shit it's looking rough out there

#17
9wntr
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hopefully the 3 others have more quality and t1 experience

#24
ari
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snitch ass motherfucker

#25
9wntr
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meow

#28
snowconedeity
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to my knowledge Seven from TSM was also rumored so they’re going international.

#3
MalMallam
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fnatic goat scouting as always

#6
looola
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call me crazy but their scouting is not that special, its more so that the other teams have 0 scouting ability and are too slow to make moves so they make them look good, cant believe Sevire was trialed by multiple VCT teams and no1 picked him up considering the dogshit players that got a t1 spot this year, took me 2 minutes of watching KC academy last season to understand that this guy was a t1 level player

#9
SleepingSnorlax
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You can say what you want but the scouting does pack a punch

#20
looola
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its good but its not like they are exploring the depths of t2 for underrated talent, I am concerned as to how teams cant even have base level scouting like fnatic. In football terms Fnatic are basically signing every hyped up academy wonder kid that every club in Europe has on their radar, scouting for me is actually exploring the market for overlooked talent or players from exotic places

#11
MalMallam
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fnatic is better at scouting then other teams, i.e. special. no one picked up hiro, no one picked up sevire, no one picked up alfa, all players who were unknown or overlooked who turned out to be very good. is this not the definition of good scouting.

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looola
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I feel like they were all among the best t2 players at the time, Veqaj is probably their best piece of scouting since it was easy to overlook him but if u have watched pro 10 mans from champs or his streams its easy to know that he is a beast. Riens is an example of good scouting for me, signing the most hyped t2 players isnt scouting imo. Their scouting is good but its what should be the standard for a t1 org, then u have orgs signing filu

#19
MalMallam
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why are you dying on this hill bruh T^T

#21
looola
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because signing the best t2 player that everyone in the scene knows is not scouting, it should be standard and its one of the reasons EMEA has been shit for a while, orgs have 0 scouting

#22
looola
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"fnatic is better at scouting the other teams" its not like I disagree but its not saying much, its not hard to be better at something when ur competition is severely incompetent

#23
MalMallam
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how do you know how easy it is to scout players. you only have hindsight and stats to go off of. look at the results, look what 95% of other teams are doing, fnatic is measurably better. your opinion on how easy it is to be better means nothing because you dont know how hard it is.

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looola
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Because they always sign well known t2 talents that everyone in the scene knows they are generational lmfao, its like saying Real Madrid have good scouting because they signed Vinicius, Guler and Rodrygo as kids. I have been in this game since it came out and I have been right about players 90% of times, if I can identify future top players in t2 so can they.
"your opinion on how easy it is to be better means nothing because you dont know how hard it is" I literally know how it is, I actually have experience in the european scene and know plenty of people in t2 and t1 its really not that difficult to come up to the conclusion that NaVi and Gentlemates have worse scouting than Manchester United.
"you only have hindsight and stats to go off of" literally not true, u have plenty of tape from individual POV, games, etc for most t2 players, if u work for a t1 org u could literally ask for tape and feedback to coaches or the players themselves, its really not that difficult, there is no excuses for t1 orgs in EMEA constantly making bad decisions and not even trying to follow the t2 scene at all

#27
looola
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Literally most teams dont even have a sporting director and rely completely on their head coach to do all of this, thats incompetence. Cojo and the Fnatic coaching are always scouting the t2 scene and ready for any situation with possible replacements thats why they are so good but that should be standard at this level and they would probably agree with me.
If you actually know how the european scene works then you would know its mostly head coaches doing all the scouting without the help of a sporting director who supervises all of it and then many of them just sign players from their same agency to "thank" their agents for getting them a t1 job, literally the only reason someone like wayne got signed to a team like Liquid instead of someone like Sevire, look at the Gentlemates roster and explain to me why 70% of the roster including coaching staff are from the same agency lmfao

#5
b3rzera1
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-Dos9 + Sevire

#7
looola
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dos9 is goat ngl

#10
Galactc
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Hard to do that when everyone is t1 level these days but then again orgs are statswatchers so idk

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